Why is Naomi Biden with Jill in Africa?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing this. After all, it is not like Biden is giving her a white house job for which she has no qualifications.

She’s representing the American people abroad, is that not a job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:• President’s salary and allowance: $450,000
• White House building operating expenses: $14,658,000
• White House Grounds: $6,057,000
• Vacations: $20,000,000
• Health care for the first family, including traveling medical staff and equipment: $7,000,000
• Campaign expenses not reimbursed to government: $311,000,000
• White House staff: $7,985,420
• Office of Administration budget: $14,481,000
• Special missions including White House Communications Agency: $161,252,000
• Military salary costs: $153,441,360
• Salary costs for presidential airlift squadron: $75,000,000
• Presidential plane fleet: $44,000,000
• Presidential helicopter fleet: $300,000,000
• Ground transportation: $2,200,000
• Transportation total: $346,200,000
• Secret Service: $259,152,884

https://www.investopedia.com/news/guess-how-much-it-cost-taxpayers-protect-first-family/

This is a figure from the Obama presidency.

What are the figures from trump?

[Anonymous]

Who paid when Trump took his three adult kids and two of their spouses to London to meet the Queen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who paid when Trump took his three adult kids and two of their spouses to London to meet the Queen?

The same people who paid for Chelsea Clinton and Malia and Sasha to do stuff with their parents: taxpayers. Which is normal.

We are talking about a grandchild and her husband living in the WH and going on trips with her grandma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:• President’s salary and allowance: $450,000
• White House building operating expenses: $14,658,000
• White House Grounds: $6,057,000
• Vacations: $20,000,000
• Health care for the first family, including traveling medical staff and equipment: $7,000,000
• Campaign expenses not reimbursed to government: $311,000,000
• White House staff: $7,985,420
• Office of Administration budget: $14,481,000
• Special missions including White House Communications Agency: $161,252,000
• Military salary costs: $153,441,360
• Salary costs for presidential airlift squadron: $75,000,000
• Presidential plane fleet: $44,000,000
• Presidential helicopter fleet: $300,000,000
• Ground transportation: $2,200,000
• Transportation total: $346,200,000
• Secret Service: $259,152,884

https://www.investopedia.com/news/guess-how-much-it-cost-taxpayers-protect-first-family/

This is a figure from the Obama presidency.

So well in excess of one billion dollars!

(I bet she gets some free toilet paper too.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:• President’s salary and allowance: $450,000
• White House building operating expenses: $14,658,000
• White House Grounds: $6,057,000
• Vacations: $20,000,000
• Health care for the first family, including traveling medical staff and equipment: $7,000,000
• Campaign expenses not reimbursed to government: $311,000,000
• White House staff: $7,985,420
• Office of Administration budget: $14,481,000
• Special missions including White House Communications Agency: $161,252,000
• Military salary costs: $153,441,360
• Salary costs for presidential airlift squadron: $75,000,000
• Presidential plane fleet: $44,000,000
• Presidential helicopter fleet: $300,000,000
• Ground transportation: $2,200,000
• Transportation total: $346,200,000
• Secret Service: $259,152,884

https://www.investopedia.com/news/guess-how-much-it-cost-taxpayers-protect-first-family/

This is a figure from the Obama presidency.

What are the figures from trump?

I don’t know, I’d figure his figure are more, because of inflation. As Bidens will be even greater. Can you find Trump or Bidens figures and post them? Also find the amount taxpayers paid for Michelle Obama’s mom to live in the WH for 8 years. Post them in this thread for quick reference, with links.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:• President’s salary and allowance: $450,000
• White House building operating expenses: $14,658,000
• White House Grounds: $6,057,000
• Vacations: $20,000,000
• Health care for the first family, including traveling medical staff and equipment: $7,000,000
• Campaign expenses not reimbursed to government: $311,000,000
• White House staff: $7,985,420
• Office of Administration budget: $14,481,000
• Special missions including White House Communications Agency: $161,252,000
• Military salary costs: $153,441,360
• Salary costs for presidential airlift squadron: $75,000,000
• Presidential plane fleet: $44,000,000
• Presidential helicopter fleet: $300,000,000
• Ground transportation: $2,200,000
• Transportation total: $346,200,000
• Secret Service: $259,152,884

https://www.investopedia.com/news/guess-how-much-it-cost-taxpayers-protect-first-family/

This is a figure from the Obama presidency.

So well in excess of one billion dollars!

(I bet she gets some free toilet paper too.)

And we pay for the maid to change the roll when it’s empty!

Democrats, the saviors of the downtrodden!

[Anonymous]

Because family values?

[Anonymous]

This is such a weird thread, especially as there are already sunk costs for this trip as she is travelling with her grandmother. It's not as if the GOP is arguing "'let's curtail Naomi Biden's (alleged) expenses and plow that into services for the unhoused."

Why does this matter?

[Anonymous]

So Naomi and Peter live rent free, pay no utility bills, parking expenses, security costs, etc. They pay nothing for home maintenance, upkeep, home insurance, grass cutting and lawn maintenance. They pay for dry cleaning, do they do their own laundry, or does the WH staff do their laundry and clean their bedding? Does the WH custodial and janitorial staff clean their living quarters? Yes, of course.


How much would all cost for people who live in DC?

Estimate how much Naomi and Pete are getting free from taxpayers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is such a weird thread, especially as there are already sunk costs for this trip as she is travelling with her grandmother. It's not as if the GOP is arguing "'let's curtail Naomi Biden's (alleged) expenses and plow that into services for the unhoused."

Why does this matter?

Financial transparency doesn’t matter?

Taxpayers want to know. We pay our expenses and their expenses. We should have an accounting of how our money is spent and who is supported by it.

A newly married big law couple should not be supported in any way by taxpayer dollars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing this. After all, it is not like Biden is giving her a white house job for which she has no qualifications.

She’s representing the American people abroad, is that not a job?

Is she making speeches? or is she just helping an old woman (Jill) with the difficulties of travel for free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First lady Jill Biden, on a five-day, two-nation trip to Africa with granddaughter Naomi, told The Associated Press on Friday that President Joe Biden intends to run for president again.

After two days in Namibia, the first lady touched down in Kenya earlier Friday where she was again welcomed with dancing and smiles for the second leg of her trip. Her 29-year-old granddaughter Naomi, who last year was married at the White House, helped hold down her grandmother's dress as a windy day greeted them on the tarmac. Two small girls in pink dresses gave them flowers alongside Kenya's first lady Rachel Ruto.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/lady-jill-biden-trip-africa-maintains-biden-run/story?id=97450134



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Jill Biden on Thursday defended bringing granddaughter Naomi Biden on a taxpayer funded trip to Africa, noting that other presidents and first ladies have brought family members on foreign trips.

'It's so great for me to be able to bring a member of the family. I think it's a tradition, or, actually that we've seen other families from first families, bring members of their family to just see the rest of the world and just experience the world,' she said during a stop in Namibia.

Naomi Biden is the first family's oldest grandchild and lives in the White House. She had her wedding to Peter Neal on the South Lawn in November.

So, Naomi and her husband still live in the WH.

Because it's a perk of the office for family members and always has been. End of story. Move on, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is such a weird thread, especially as there are already sunk costs for this trip as she is travelling with her grandmother. It's not as if the GOP is arguing "'let's curtail Naomi Biden's (alleged) expenses and plow that into services for the unhoused."

Why does this matter?

Financial transparency doesn’t matter?

Taxpayers want to know. We pay our expenses and their expenses. We should have an accounting of how our money is spent and who is supported by it.

A newly married big law couple should not be supported in any way by taxpayer dollars.

I'm fine with it. Especially after taxpayers financially propped up the Trumps, and their various spawn, and MaraLago, for 4 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is such a weird thread, especially as there are already sunk costs for this trip as she is travelling with her grandmother. It's not as if the GOP is arguing "'let's curtail Naomi Biden's (alleged) expenses and plow that into services for the unhoused."

Why does this matter?

Financial transparency doesn’t matter?

Taxpayers want to know. We pay our expenses and their expenses. We should have an accounting of how our money is spent and who is supported by it.

A newly married big law couple should not be supported in any way by taxpayer dollars.

I'm fine with it. Especially after taxpayers financially propped up the Trumps, and their various spawn, and MaraLago, for 4 years.

That's what's so weird here. Didn't Trump take more vaca days in his first year than Obama did in his first term? Didn't Trump's travel's expenses in his first month as president exceed what Obama spent in a year? The prior admin was an outlier in such kinds of expenses as well as who was expending them. Yet we are now focused on a young woman (and her husband), who are probably providing some emotional support to the grandparents, who happen to be POTUS and FLOTUS. I just don't get it.