New way rich parents are paying to get their kids into the Ivy League

[Anonymous]

For some reason, former Soviets - and a lot of Chinese - have an iron-clad belief that studying calculus in 3rd grade will get their snowflake into the Ivies. If these people are so smart as they claim to be, you'd think they'd figure out of the rules of the game by now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For some reason, former Soviets - and a lot of Chinese - have an iron-clad belief that studying calculus in 3rd grade will get their snowflake into the Ivies. If these people are so smart as they claim to be, you'd think they'd figure out of the rules of the game by now.

Yup. They are missing the new admissions criteria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the tender age of 7, while most kids were learning to ride bikes and play video games, Natalia Latuskiewcz was pondering early principles of multiplication and algebra two hours per week in her Russian math class.

“I thought my daughter could do more than what she was offered [in school],” her mother, Anna Latuskiewcz, told The Post. The 44-year-old Stanford alum, who works as a data scientist and investor, enrolled Natalia in the Russian School of Mathematics seven years ago, paying $3,000 for the tutoring — on top of $30,000 annually for tuition at an all-girls private elementary school.

“If she wants to be a doctor, an engineer — math will never hurt. Her math will increase the understanding of the world,” said the mom of four who lives in Medina, Washington. “The sky is the limit.”

The latest must-have for well-to-do parents eager to give their children any and every advantage is Russian math classes. They utilize a method that was developed in the Soviet Union during the Cold War and prioritize reasoning, critical thinking and abstract principals over brute memorization. Companies offering the instruction are seeing a boom in enrollment as wealthy families look to infiltrate the Ivy League.

https://nypost.com/2023/02/20/russian-math-classes-are-the-new-must-for-wealthy-kids/

I don't understand, if the Russian method of teaching math is so much better, shouldn't these parents be aiming for Moscow State?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For some reason, former Soviets - and a lot of Chinese - have an iron-clad belief that studying calculus in 3rd grade will get their snowflake into the Ivies. If these people are so smart as they claim to be, you'd think they'd figure out of the rules of the game by now.

Yup. They are missing the new admissions criteria.

Yea, unless they are first gen, or won some big academic contest, it's not happening.

[Anonymous]

This article is ridiculous and casts a poor light on excellent programs like RSM and AOPS, which provide engaging and fun math concepts (and communities) for kids who would otherwise be starved for truly good math content.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, overdoing math enrichment at an early age does not equate to future Ivy League admission. Silly title.

Who says it's over-doing and not normal-doing?

In 5 years those same parents will be complaining that Jr. Is bored in math class and they genuinely will think that it's the school's problem

DS was bored in math in 3rd grade. We looked at the math he was doing and agreed that it was ridiculous. We enrolled him in AoPS in third and moved to RSM (it was closer to home) so that he could take some math that wasn't boring. DS is still bored at school but he enjoys going to RSM. He would prefer AoPS but doesn't like the longer commute.

It is not the schools problem, math is paced at a level that makes sense for the majority of kids. DS loves math and understands the concepts quickly. Math at school is basically practicing foundational skills. Math at RSM is a bit challenging. Math competitions are challenging and fun. Hopefully he will find math more engaging when he gets to Middle School but that might not happen until High School.

Feel free to parent your kid how you would like. Mine enjoys math and wants to be challenged so I am going to support that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For some reason, former Soviets - and a lot of Chinese - have an iron-clad belief that studying calculus in 3rd grade will get their snowflake into the Ivies. If these people are so smart as they claim to be, you'd think they'd figure out of the rules of the game by now.

Yup. They are missing the new admissions criteria.

Yea, unless they are first gen, or won some big academic contest, it's not happening.

No, that’s not what I meant. White rich people are still scamming their way in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the tender age of 7, while most kids were learning to ride bikes and play video games, Natalia Latuskiewcz was pondering early principles of multiplication and algebra two hours per week in her Russian math class.

“I thought my daughter could do more than what she was offered [in school],” her mother, Anna Latuskiewcz, told The Post. The 44-year-old Stanford alum, who works as a data scientist and investor, enrolled Natalia in the Russian School of Mathematics seven years ago, paying $3,000 for the tutoring — on top of $30,000 annually for tuition at an all-girls private elementary school.

“If she wants to be a doctor, an engineer — math will never hurt. Her math will increase the understanding of the world,” said the mom of four who lives in Medina, Washington. “The sky is the limit.”

The latest must-have for well-to-do parents eager to give their children any and every advantage is Russian math classes. They utilize a method that was developed in the Soviet Union during the Cold War and prioritize reasoning, critical thinking and abstract principals over brute memorization. Companies offering the instruction are seeing a boom in enrollment as wealthy families look to infiltrate the Ivy League.

https://nypost.com/2023/02/20/russian-math-classes-are-the-new-must-for-wealthy-kids/

This article looks like an infomercial to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Who says it's over-doing and not normal-doing?

Sometimes is is normal (or appropriate) doing, but far too many parents try to push this on their kids who aren't advanced or prodigies in hopes of turning them into one. It doesn't work.

I'm all for advanced math programs for the kids who needs them to keep their minds engaged and who have a deep interest in math that isn't being met at school. But many parents push these programs on the wrong kids and cause more harm than help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

but seems a lot more plausible than doing nothing let's face it prep makes a big difference

No one's saying prep doesn't help.

This thread's title is suggesting that enrolling in these programs will buy admission into an Ivy League. It won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

but seems a lot more plausible than doing nothing let's face it prep makes a big difference

No one's saying prep doesn't help.

This thread's title is suggesting that enrolling in these programs will buy admission into an Ivy League. It won't.

+1

Click Bait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Who says it's over-doing and not normal-doing?

Sometimes is is normal (or appropriate) doing, but far too many parents try to push this on their kids who aren't advanced or prodigies in hopes of turning them into one. It doesn't work.

I'm all for advanced math programs for the kids who needs them to keep their minds engaged and who have a deep interest in math that isn't being met at school. But many parents push these programs on the wrong kids and cause more harm than help.

What do you know about other people’s kids??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Who says it's over-doing and not normal-doing?

Sometimes is is normal (or appropriate) doing, but far too many parents try to push this on their kids who aren't advanced or prodigies in hopes of turning them into one. It doesn't work.

I'm all for advanced math programs for the kids who needs them to keep their minds engaged and who have a deep interest in math that isn't being met at school. But many parents push these programs on the wrong kids and cause more harm than help.

The nice thing about RSM is that it has three levels for each grade. Kids are evaluated and placed in the level that is most appropriate for their ability level. It allows kids who have gaps in their knowledge a place to fill those gaps. A kid who is on grade level will solidify those skills. A kid who is ahead will be challenged. And it has a competition program that kids can test into for a different type of challenge. It is actually a pretty flexible program.

I am sure that there are kids there who don’t want to be there, just like there are kids at Mathnasium or Sylvan or Kumon who don’t want to be there. I am also sure that there are kids there who want to be there and enjoy the classes and math in general.

I also know that there are kids playing rec sports who don’t want to. I have seen the kid who walks up and down the basketball court or the kid who is swinging at a pitch with the bat on one hand. There are lots of parents who try and do the right thing for their kid and find themselves putting their kid into a program that they think is good for their kid and the kid isn’t enthusiastic.

[Anonymous]

She isn’t a “Stanford grad.” She did a two year postdoc there.