ACPS- If You Had To

[Anonymous]

I posted previously, but feel like I should offer more specific information. My child is on an IEP, which entitles him to a prompt to turn in assignments. For the past 3 years, I have been fighting tooth and nail with the school about the failure to prompt him. He has completed assignments (in class) that just sit there, and he gets no prompt, and teachers refuse to take them the next day. I have also been fighting to get an accommodation added to turn things in one day late. ACPS has been awful and fought these very basic things. Teachers and administrators do not answer my emails asking for meetings - they just don't respond.

Meanwhile, I have sent emails to the principals of two FCPS schools, asking how my son's accommodations would be implemented if we moved. Both have returned my calls to discuss. We don't live there - yet - my child does not attend there, yet they have been more responsive than ACPS.

[Anonymous]

The chair of the school board sends her kids to private. The TAG (Talented and Gifted) Director sends her kids to private. The former superintendent sent his kid(s) to private. The former head of the city wide PTA was spotted on private school open house zooms ( I don't know if his kids went private). The former head of ACPS communications (Helen Lloyd) sent her kid(s?) to private.

The people with the most intimate knowledge and pull at ACPS send/sent their kids to private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't drink the Lyles Crouch Koolaid. From what I hear the classrooms are tiny and the class sizes are at capacity. Most of the elementary school are pretty good though.

The best proficiency scores across all students including minority and economically disadvantaged students isn't Koolaid. If class size is at capacity, it's because it's the one solidly performing elementary school in ACPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I posted previously, but feel like I should offer more specific information. My child is on an IEP, which entitles him to a prompt to turn in assignments. For the past 3 years, I have been fighting tooth and nail with the school about the failure to prompt him. He has completed assignments (in class) that just sit there, and he gets no prompt, and teachers refuse to take them the next day. I have also been fighting to get an accommodation added to turn things in one day late. ACPS has been awful and fought these very basic things. Teachers and administrators do not answer my emails asking for meetings - they just don't respond.

Meanwhile, I have sent emails to the principals of two FCPS schools, asking how my son's accommodations would be implemented if we moved. Both have returned my calls to discuss. We don't live there - yet - my child does not attend there, yet they have been more responsive than ACPS.

I hear this from a lot of parents of kids with IEPs, special ed etc. It's not legal but ACPS knows that it's expensive for parents to sue so they can get away with it. The School Board Chair Megan Alderton is a former special ed teacher. She sends her kids to private.

Kids who are neurotypical are also ignored. At my child's ACPS ES school, a teacher, when asked for help, would respond that it wouldn't be equitable for them to help students. They also cite equity as the reason they don't even give the most basic of homework. They were backed up by our elementary schools principal. My child's math teacher's standard response to in class questions was "you must not have been paying attention, too bad". Also backed up by the principal.

[Anonymous]

Kids who are neurotypical are also ignored. At my child's ACPS ES school, a teacher, when asked for help, would respond that it wouldn't be equitable for them to help students. They also cite equity as the reason they don't even give the most basic of homework. They were backed up by our elementary schools principal. My child's math teacher's standard response to in class questions was "you must not have been paying attention, too bad". Also backed up by the principal.

I agree that this is not desirable or supportive behavior. However, I don't view it in the same category as denying disabled students support that they are legally entitled to.

[Anonymous]

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Kids who are neurotypical are also ignored. At my child's ACPS ES school, a teacher, when asked for help, would respond that it wouldn't be equitable for them to help students. They also cite equity as the reason they don't even give the most basic of homework. They were backed up by our elementary schools principal. My child's math teacher's standard response to in class questions was "you must not have been paying attention, too bad". Also backed up by the principal.

I agree that this is not desirable or supportive behavior. However, I don't view it in the same category as denying disabled students support that they are legally entitled to.

I agree but it just further highlights ACPS’s failures - unless your child is of high iq with no challenges that requires individualized support, I think you should really question if ACPS can meet your child’s needs overall.

I saw this as a parent of former ACPS special needs student who had the exact same type of argument with an elementary school principal about supporting my child’s math instruction (which wasn’t really the IEP focus) during the pandemic year.

[Anonymous]

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Brooks is great! Our kid has had excellent teachers every year and loves school.

I am assuming they had different teachers for 5th than my kids did. One was totally crazy, constantly singing, and taught very little. The other was slightly better, but pretty much checked out.

Lol! Younger DC is currently in 4th. Older DC had a 5th grade teacher who is still there and had a good experience.—Hopefully that will be the case again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I posted previously, but feel like I should offer more specific information. My child is on an IEP, which entitles him to a prompt to turn in assignments. For the past 3 years, I have been fighting tooth and nail with the school about the failure to prompt him. He has completed assignments (in class) that just sit there, and he gets no prompt, and teachers refuse to take them the next day. I have also been fighting to get an accommodation added to turn things in one day late. ACPS has been awful and fought these very basic things. Teachers and administrators do not answer my emails asking for meetings - they just don't respond.

Meanwhile, I have sent emails to the principals of two FCPS schools, asking how my son's accommodations would be implemented if we moved. Both have returned my calls to discuss. We don't live there - yet - my child does not attend there, yet they have been more responsive than ACPS.

I hear this from a lot of parents of kids with IEPs, special ed etc. It's not legal but ACPS knows that it's expensive for parents to sue so they can get away with it. The School Board Chair Megan Alderton is a former special ed teacher. She sends her kids to private.

Kids who are neurotypical are also ignored. At my child's ACPS ES school, a teacher, when asked for help, would respond that it wouldn't be equitable for them to help students. They also cite equity as the reason they don't even give the most basic of homework. They were backed up by our elementary schools principal. My child's math teacher's standard response to in class questions was "you must not have been paying attention, too bad". Also backed up by the principal.

What school is this!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't drink the Lyles Crouch Koolaid. From what I hear the classrooms are tiny and the class sizes are at capacity. Most of the elementary school are pretty good though.

The best proficiency scores across all students including minority and economically disadvantaged students isn't Koolaid. If class size is at capacity, it's because it's the one solidly performing elementary school in ACPS.

This is because there are no economically disadvantaged kids at the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't drink the Lyles Crouch Koolaid. From what I hear the classrooms are tiny and the class sizes are at capacity. Most of the elementary school are pretty good though.

The best proficiency scores across all students including minority and economically disadvantaged students isn't Koolaid. If class size is at capacity, it's because it's the one solidly performing elementary school in ACPS.

This is because there are no economically disadvantaged kids at the school.

Seriously? What are the the stats showing there are no economically disadvantaged kids attending LCTA? My kids do not attend but I know plenty of students who do and think the hype is warranted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't drink the Lyles Crouch Koolaid. From what I hear the classrooms are tiny and the class sizes are at capacity. Most of the elementary school are pretty good though.

The best proficiency scores across all students including minority and economically disadvantaged students isn't Koolaid. If class size is at capacity, it's because it's the one solidly performing elementary school in ACPS.

This is because there are no economically disadvantaged kids at the school.

Seriously? What are the the stats showing there are no economically disadvantaged kids attending LCTA? My kids do not attend but I know plenty of students who do and think the hype is warranted.

20% of students at Lyles-Crouch are economically disadvantaged but that's incredibly low for an ACPS school so not surprised that's considered "none". If you bought in Del Ray or those hugely expensive townhomes on US 1 then your kids go to JH where 63% are economically disadvantaged with one of the most stark academic divides in the country. LC is an ok school but when compared to other ACPS schools it is excellent .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't drink the Lyles Crouch Koolaid. From what I hear the classrooms are tiny and the class sizes are at capacity. Most of the elementary school are pretty good though.

The best proficiency scores across all students including minority and economically disadvantaged students isn't Koolaid. If class size is at capacity, it's because it's the one solidly performing elementary school in ACPS.

This is because there are no economically disadvantaged kids at the school.

Seriously? What are the the stats showing there are no economically disadvantaged kids attending LCTA? My kids do not attend but I know plenty of students who do and think the hype is warranted.

20% of students at Lyles-Crouch are economically disadvantaged but that's incredibly low for an ACPS school so not surprised that's considered "none". If you bought in Del Ray or those hugely expensive townhomes on US 1 then your kids go to JH where 63% are economically disadvantaged with one of the most stark academic divides in the country. LC is an ok school but when compared to other ACPS schools it is excellent .

All of Del Ray goes to MVCS except for a teeny tiny slice by the GWMS that is zoned for JH. But you can do what all the other white families do - just transfer to Brooks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't drink the Lyles Crouch Koolaid. From what I hear the classrooms are tiny and the class sizes are at capacity. Most of the elementary school are pretty good though.

The best proficiency scores across all students including minority and economically disadvantaged students isn't Koolaid. If class size is at capacity, it's because it's the one solidly performing elementary school in ACPS.

This is because there are no economically disadvantaged kids at the school.

Seriously? What are the the stats showing there are no economically disadvantaged kids attending LCTA? My kids do not attend but I know plenty of students who do and think the hype is warranted.

20% of students at Lyles-Crouch are economically disadvantaged but that's incredibly low for an ACPS school so not surprised that's considered "none". If you bought in Del Ray or those hugely expensive townhomes on US 1 then your kids go to JH where 63% are economically disadvantaged with one of the most stark academic divides in the country. LC is an ok school but when compared to other ACPS schools it is excellent .

All of Del Ray goes to MVCS except for a teeny tiny slice by the GWMS that is zoned for JH. But you can do what all the other white families do - just transfer to Brooks.

There are a handful of Del ray families at Barrett too.

[Anonymous]

20% of students at Lyles-Crouch are economically disadvantaged but that's incredibly low for an ACPS school so not surprised that's considered "none". If you bought in Del Ray or those hugely expensive townhomes on US 1 then your kids go to JH where 63% are economically disadvantaged with one of the most stark academic divides in the country. LC is an ok school but when compared to other ACPS schools it is excellent .


All of Del Ray goes to MVCS except for a teeny tiny slice by the GWMS that is zoned for JH. But you can do what all the other white families do - just transfer to Brooks.

That's not currently accurate. It used to be the case, however, for the most part, transfers are generally no longer permitted unless a family has a valid reason.

[Anonymous]

I keep hearing transfers aren’t permitted but every family I know that applied for one got it.

We are very happy at mvcs.