Question about PK3 lottery on the Hill

[Anonymous]

You are on the right track. In addition to Tyler focus on the charters that are relatively close and the public ES that there is some chance to get into OOB. We did Miner OOB for PK. Order it based on your actual preference. Putting the schools that statistically don’t take OOB won’t hurt you, but it won’t help you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SWS is not as great as it seems.

It does have that certain je ne sais quoi. How do you say in English? Oh yes, blanc.

Oh, you again. Things change, PP. You clearly haven't been to SWS in a while. The school is pretty diverse, both in students and faculty.

53% white in a citywide school is "pretty diverse"? And you want to credit for faculty diversity to darken up the place? OK.

Seems pretty close to the demographics of the city overall, and is certainly more diverse than its neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SWS is not as great as it seems.

It does have that certain je ne sais quoi. How do you say in English? Oh yes, blanc.

Oh, you again. Things change, PP. You clearly haven't been to SWS in a while. The school is pretty diverse, both in students and faculty.

53% white in a citywide school is "pretty diverse"? And you want to credit for faculty diversity to darken up the place? OK.

Seems pretty close to the demographics of the city overall, and is certainly more diverse than its neighborhood.

Other schools in the neighborhood are 65+% white, so SWS is actually a more diverse option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SWS is not as great as it seems.

It does have that certain je ne sais quoi. How do you say in English? Oh yes, blanc.

Oh, you again. Things change, PP. You clearly haven't been to SWS in a while. The school is pretty diverse, both in students and faculty.

53% white in a citywide school is "pretty diverse"? And you want to credit for faculty diversity to darken up the place? OK.

Seems pretty close to the demographics of the city overall, and is certainly more diverse than its neighborhood.

Other schools in the neighborhood are 65+% white, so SWS is actually a more diverse option.

L-T, Brent, and Maury are more white, but everywhere else has a much smaller percentage of white students (like 10-25%). I do actually think it's odd how white SWS has remained because I would expect most of the UMC white parents in the neighborhood to live IB for, and send their kids to, one of the three schools I just mentioned. I would expect most of SWS's population to come from the surrounding elementaries which, again, are much more diverse. But it appears that the school is more attractive to white parents. I'm not saying that's good or bad, or why it is, but I do find it surprising. SWS doesn't feed to a MS, so people attending the school are going specifically for the school itself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SWS is not as great as it seems.

It does have that certain je ne sais quoi. How do you say in English? Oh yes, blanc.

Oh, you again. Things change, PP. You clearly haven't been to SWS in a while. The school is pretty diverse, both in students and faculty.

53% white in a citywide school is "pretty diverse"? And you want to credit for faculty diversity to darken up the place? OK.

Seems pretty close to the demographics of the city overall, and is certainly more diverse than its neighborhood.

Other schools in the neighborhood are 65+% white, so SWS is actually a more diverse option.

L-T, Brent, and Maury are more white, but everywhere else has a much smaller percentage of white students (like 10-25%). I do actually think it's odd how white SWS has remained because I would expect most of the UMC white parents in the neighborhood to live IB for, and send their kids to, one of the three schools I just mentioned. I would expect most of SWS's population to come from the surrounding elementaries which, again, are much more diverse. But it appears that the school is more attractive to white parents. I'm not saying that's good or bad, or why it is, but I do find it surprising. SWS doesn't feed to a MS, so people attending the school are going specifically for the school itself.

This is incorrect. SWS feeds into Eliot-Hine MS. Also, I don't understand your reasoning. We live in the neighborhood and chose SWS over our IB. Why? Because we live much closer to SWS than our IB. SWS is city-wide but draws heavily from the neighborhood. Some families get spots at SWS but not at their IB in popular Pk3 programs. They stay because it's a great (diverse!) community. We've also met great families from all over the city, primarily from SE and NE, which makes sense to me since families are clearly prioritizing commutes.

We would have been happy with our IB too, fwiw.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SWS is not as great as it seems.

It does have that certain je ne sais quoi. How do you say in English? Oh yes, blanc.

Oh, you again. Things change, PP. You clearly haven't been to SWS in a while. The school is pretty diverse, both in students and faculty.

53% white in a citywide school is "pretty diverse"? And you want to credit for faculty diversity to darken up the place? OK.

Seems pretty close to the demographics of the city overall, and is certainly more diverse than its neighborhood.

Other schools in the neighborhood are 65+% white, so SWS is actually a more diverse option.

L-T, Brent, and Maury are more white, but everywhere else has a much smaller percentage of white students (like 10-25%). I do actually think it's odd how white SWS has remained because I would expect most of the UMC white parents in the neighborhood to live IB for, and send their kids to, one of the three schools I just mentioned. I would expect most of SWS's population to come from the surrounding elementaries which, again, are much more diverse. But it appears that the school is more attractive to white parents. I'm not saying that's good or bad, or why it is, but I do find it surprising. SWS doesn't feed to a MS, so people attending the school are going specifically for the school itself.

L-T is not more than 53% white. Also, the three schools you name all draw from IBs that are heavily white; I actually suspect all 3 schools -- certainly L-T and Maury -- are less white than their IB population. But that makes sense, because even if their IB population statistically tracks, their OOB population is likely to reflect the diversity of the rest of DCPS. SWS draws heavily from schools that are FAR less than 53% white, including Watkins, JOW, Payne and Langston in addition to L-T and Maury (per the data posted in another thread)... so doesn't it seem somewhat odd that it attracts so many more of the white people from those IBs than the non-white people statistically-speaking?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SWS is not as great as it seems.

It does have that certain je ne sais quoi. How do you say in English? Oh yes, blanc.

Oh, you again. Things change, PP. You clearly haven't been to SWS in a while. The school is pretty diverse, both in students and faculty.

53% white in a citywide school is "pretty diverse"? And you want to credit for faculty diversity to darken up the place? OK.

Seems pretty close to the demographics of the city overall, and is certainly more diverse than its neighborhood.

Other schools in the neighborhood are 65+% white, so SWS is actually a more diverse option.

The ONLY school on the Hill that is anything close to 65% white is Brent. And fewer than 10 students IB for Brent go to SWS. So try again.

[Anonymous]

Summary: SWS is a reasonable choice if you don’t live
IB for Brent, Maury, LT. Their waitlist is a mile long not because they are a great school but because a lot of Hill families do not live IB for these schools and need an alternative. Of course there are some exceptions, esp if your child has special needs, which is something that SWS embraces in a way that other schools do not. My biggest parenting regret is keeping my older child at sws through fifth. My younger (by 4 years) is at a “normal” public elementary school now and it is a far better experience both academically and socially. The older one is working their tail off in public middle school (not on the hill) to get A’s in a way that I know their sibling will not, simply because the younger sibling will enter middle school far better prepared in every way imaginable. That said, I’d still take SWS over miner, Tyler, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SWS is not as great as it seems.

It does have that certain je ne sais quoi. How do you say in English? Oh yes, blanc.

Oh, you again. Things change, PP. You clearly haven't been to SWS in a while. The school is pretty diverse, both in students and faculty.

53% white in a citywide school is "pretty diverse"? And you want to credit for faculty diversity to darken up the place? OK.

Seems pretty close to the demographics of the city overall, and is certainly more diverse than its neighborhood.

Other schools in the neighborhood are 65+% white, so SWS is actually a more diverse option.

L-T, Brent, and Maury are more white, but everywhere else has a much smaller percentage of white students (like 10-25%). I do actually think it's odd how white SWS has remained because I would expect most of the UMC white parents in the neighborhood to live IB for, and send their kids to, one of the three schools I just mentioned. I would expect most of SWS's population to come from the surrounding elementaries which, again, are much more diverse. But it appears that the school is more attractive to white parents. I'm not saying that's good or bad, or why it is, but I do find it surprising. SWS doesn't feed to a MS, so people attending the school are going specifically for the school itself.

You know that these numbers are published, right? Which means it takes about 10 seconds to discover that LT is just not. If you were as confident in your stated position as you pretend to be you wouldn't feel the need to just ake sh*t up.

[Anonymous]

I think Black families don't rank SWS as often as other families. They'd rather their children go to IB school, and are happy if it's majority black, that means trust. Personally, I did not care to rank SWS even though I know it's a nice school. I want my kids to go to school with their neighbors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SWS is not as great as it seems.

It does have that certain je ne sais quoi. How do you say in English? Oh yes, blanc.

Oh, you again. Things change, PP. You clearly haven't been to SWS in a while. The school is pretty diverse, both in students and faculty.

53% white in a citywide school is "pretty diverse"? And you want to credit for faculty diversity to darken up the place? OK.

Seems pretty close to the demographics of the city overall, and is certainly more diverse than its neighborhood.

Other schools in the neighborhood are 65+% white, so SWS is actually a more diverse option.

L-T, Brent, and Maury are more white, but everywhere else has a much smaller percentage of white students (like 10-25%). I do actually think it's odd how white SWS has remained because I would expect most of the UMC white parents in the neighborhood to live IB for, and send their kids to, one of the three schools I just mentioned. I would expect most of SWS's population to come from the surrounding elementaries which, again, are much more diverse. But it appears that the school is more attractive to white parents. I'm not saying that's good or bad, or why it is, but I do find it surprising. SWS doesn't feed to a MS, so people attending the school are going specifically for the school itself.

Unfortunately, I think those who claim SWS is not diverse are relying on outdated information/stereotypes and have not visited the school recently. SWS is more diverse than it used to be (students & staff) and Inclusion, Diversity, Equity, and Anti-Racism (IDEA) are central to SWS’s values. The SWS IDEA Working Group (https://www.swsidea.org/) has worked very hard to create an inclusive school environment where all students feel safe and supported and has helped the entire school community develop a deeper awareness and understanding of systemic & institutionalized racism and what we can do about it.

Black Joy is a theme that is explored and embraced at SWS - for example, this week there is the 100 Languages of Black Joy: Crafting a Better World Exhibition & Sing Along: an all-school evening for families to view children’s project work around Black Joy and engage in conversation and celebration and come together for a school-wide sing along.
Also this week there is a gathering at school for SWS families with children who identify as Black and/or of African descent to provide a safe and supportive space to come together to feel joy as a community and to process the recent and past events in which racism has so sadly led to the loss of black lives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SWS is not as great as it seems.

It does have that certain je ne sais quoi. How do you say in English? Oh yes, blanc.

Oh, you again. Things change, PP. You clearly haven't been to SWS in a while. The school is pretty diverse, both in students and faculty.

53% white in a citywide school is "pretty diverse"? And you want to credit for faculty diversity to darken up the place? OK.

Seems pretty close to the demographics of the city overall, and is certainly more diverse than its neighborhood.

Other schools in the neighborhood are 65+% white, so SWS is actually a more diverse option.

L-T, Brent, and Maury are more white, but everywhere else has a much smaller percentage of white students (like 10-25%). I do actually think it's odd how white SWS has remained because I would expect most of the UMC white parents in the neighborhood to live IB for, and send their kids to, one of the three schools I just mentioned. I would expect most of SWS's population to come from the surrounding elementaries which, again, are much more diverse. But it appears that the school is more attractive to white parents. I'm not saying that's good or bad, or why it is, but I do find it surprising. SWS doesn't feed to a MS, so people attending the school are going specifically for the school itself.

Unfortunately, I think those who claim SWS is not diverse are relying on outdated information/stereotypes and have not visited the school recently. SWS is more diverse than it used to be (students & staff) and Inclusion, Diversity, Equity, and Anti-Racism (IDEA) are central to SWS’s values. The SWS IDEA Working Group (https://www.swsidea.org/) has worked very hard to create an inclusive school environment where all students feel safe and supported and has helped the entire school community develop a deeper awareness and understanding of systemic & institutionalized racism and what we can do about it.

Black Joy is a theme that is explored and embraced at SWS - for example, this week there is the 100 Languages of Black Joy: Crafting a Better World Exhibition & Sing Along: an all-school evening for families to view children’s project work around Black Joy and engage in conversation and celebration and come together for a school-wide sing along.
Also this week there is a gathering at school for SWS families with children who identify as Black and/or of African descent to provide a safe and supportive space to come together to feel joy as a community and to process the recent and past events in which racism has so sadly led to the loss of black lives.

What about other celebrating other ethnicities? A DE&I focus just on the black experience does not make a diverse school.