Wheaton Engineering Magnet Feedback?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid there who is loving it. Great program, great opportunities, great teachers/counselors/principal. Engineering classes are ver hands on. They'll take intro to Engineering design, principles of engineering, digital electronics, civil or aerospace or computer, then a senior capstone with a project. There are various engineering clubs, robotics, science, etc. Plus art, theatre, chorus. (Great chorus and theatre teachers). Band/orch is not particularly strong. Gorgeous building. Welcome!

Thank you for this clarification. I have heard that the programs like engineering at Wheaton are tech programs for kids who aren't going to college but rather into fields like mechanics, AC repair, and so on. Do the engineering kids take AP classes?

No the engineering magnet at Wheaton is for kids who want to be aerospace engineers or architects.

Maybe it is now, but my daughter is in college for aero/astro engineering and was specifically told Blair Magnet was a better option to get into top engineering programs for BA/MA engineers and the Wheaton program was great for polytechnic engineering schools. Not A/C repair etc... but engineering technology and design and graphing. This is not a knock, because some of these degrees are amazing

Ha! Take a look at the matriculation list from Wheaton. Never seen anything like it, every top school is represented — Stanford, Caltech, Princeton, MIT. They are all there. It was unbelievable last year.

I said pretty much the same, but I missed a few key names you mentioned!

There were so many! I couldn't believe the Wheaton graduation program -- I did not see one top 25 school not listed. Swarthmore, Duke, Cornell... it was really amazing. And, to top it off, a lot of the kids are doing really well in their university programs. There are some great teachers at Wheaton. So, if anyone is considering it, my DS had a fantastic 4 years there. The teachers really get to know the kids (DS still keeps in touch with a couple teachers), it is very collegial, the school is beautiful, and the students are generally really nice and low-key (including outside the magnet).

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A list of names is nice, and this one is impressive. Of additional use in figuring out whether one program or another might best suit a student would be, say, the proportion of those graduating from each program that are admitted to a particular selection of schools, whether the target is an Ivy, the top STEM schools, the generic top 25, etc.

Are more than headlines available somewhere? Of course, it's understood that it would be a YMMV/past performance is not a guarantee of future results situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid there who is loving it. Great program, great opportunities, great teachers/counselors/principal. Engineering classes are ver hands on. They'll take intro to Engineering design, principles of engineering, digital electronics, civil or aerospace or computer, then a senior capstone with a project. There are various engineering clubs, robotics, science, etc. Plus art, theatre, chorus. (Great chorus and theatre teachers). Band/orch is not particularly strong. Gorgeous building. Welcome!

Thank you for this clarification. I have heard that the programs like engineering at Wheaton are tech programs for kids who aren't going to college but rather into fields like mechanics, AC repair, and so on. Do the engineering kids take AP classes?

The tech programs you’re referring to are at Thomas Edison, not Wheaton.

Sorry! I thought they were the same school; that Wheaton was the regular high school and Edison was the magnet school attached to it. I was volunteering there for the Junior Achievement day and there was a restaurant, cosmetology... Didn't realize the engineering was a separate program.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid there who is loving it. Great program, great opportunities, great teachers/counselors/principal. Engineering classes are ver hands on. They'll take intro to Engineering design, principles of engineering, digital electronics, civil or aerospace or computer, then a senior capstone with a project. There are various engineering clubs, robotics, science, etc. Plus art, theatre, chorus. (Great chorus and theatre teachers). Band/orch is not particularly strong. Gorgeous building. Welcome!

Thank you for this clarification. I have heard that the programs like engineering at Wheaton are tech programs for kids who aren't going to college but rather into fields like mechanics, AC repair, and so on. Do the engineering kids take AP classes?

No the engineering magnet at Wheaton is for kids who want to be aerospace engineers or architects.

Maybe it is now, but my daughter is in college for aero/astro engineering and was specifically told Blair Magnet was a better option to get into top engineering programs for BA/MA engineers and the Wheaton program was great for polytechnic engineering schools. Not A/C repair etc... but engineering technology and design and graphing. This is not a knock, because some of these degrees are amazing

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Give you an idea. Look at Purdue School of Engineering and Purdue Polytechnic. That is how to differentiate

Also, most of the colleges people are posting are not colleges engineers go to besides HM, CT, and MIT. I mean they are great colleges for a few of the 500+ kids, but an aerospace engineer is not going to Princeton, Swathmore etc…. So I don’t quite understand that.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid there who is loving it. Great program, great opportunities, great teachers/counselors/principal. Engineering classes are ver hands on. They'll take intro to Engineering design, principles of engineering, digital electronics, civil or aerospace or computer, then a senior capstone with a project. There are various engineering clubs, robotics, science, etc. Plus art, theatre, chorus. (Great chorus and theatre teachers). Band/orch is not particularly strong. Gorgeous building. Welcome!

Thank you for this clarification. I have heard that the programs like engineering at Wheaton are tech programs for kids who aren't going to college but rather into fields like mechanics, AC repair, and so on. Do the engineering kids take AP classes?

No the engineering magnet at Wheaton is for kids who want to be aerospace engineers or architects.

Maybe it is now, but my daughter is in college for aero/astro engineering and was specifically told Blair Magnet was a better option to get into top engineering programs for BA/MA engineers and the Wheaton program was great for polytechnic engineering schools. Not A/C repair etc... but engineering technology and design and graphing. This is not a knock, because some of these degrees are amazing

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Give you an idea. Look at Purdue School of Engineering and Purdue Polytechnic. That is how to differentiate

Also, most of the colleges people are posting are not colleges engineers go to besides HM, CT, and MIT. I mean they are great colleges for a few of the 500+ kids, but an aerospace engineer is not going to Princeton, Swathmore etc…. So I don’t quite understand that.

That initial statement is totally false.
Not everyone is going for Aero. Princeton and Swarthmore are top schools w/ good engineering programs. Also, some kids decide not to do engineering or want more of a liberal arts experience, so all the admits are relevant. We should add JHU, GT, CMU, Cornell and more to that list. I don't know any kids from Wheaton going to Purdue Poly. I really don't get the people who are trying to suggest that Wheaton is some lesser "Lincoln Tech" type of program (dating myself here)! Maybe this is more confusion w/ Edison on your part. It sounds like you have no real knowledge of the Wheaton magnet program.

I am the parent with kids at Blair magnet and Wheaton engineering. Wheaton is the better program for a student interested in an engineering career. As I said previously, Blair has had an established relationship with top colleges. WHeaton is only 10 years old, so people should look at the current admits, not ones from several years ago. It has done amazing things for such a young magnet program. Curriculum-wise, Wheaton offers much more for the student interested in engineering (Civil, Elect, Comp, Aero or Mech), unless that student really wants Thermodynamics which is at Blair, but Blair doesn't have the various engineer topics.

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Also, there are only 30 kids in the each of Wheaton's magnets. Not 500.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid there who is loving it. Great program, great opportunities, great teachers/counselors/principal. Engineering classes are ver hands on. They'll take intro to Engineering design, principles of engineering, digital electronics, civil or aerospace or computer, then a senior capstone with a project. There are various engineering clubs, robotics, science, etc. Plus art, theatre, chorus. (Great chorus and theatre teachers). Band/orch is not particularly strong. Gorgeous building. Welcome!

Thank you for this clarification. I have heard that the programs like engineering at Wheaton are tech programs for kids who aren't going to college but rather into fields like mechanics, AC repair, and so on. Do the engineering kids take AP classes?

No the engineering magnet at Wheaton is for kids who want to be aerospace engineers or architects.

Maybe it is now, but my daughter is in college for aero/astro engineering and was specifically told Blair Magnet was a better option to get into top engineering programs for BA/MA engineers and the Wheaton program was great for polytechnic engineering schools. Not A/C repair etc... but engineering technology and design and graphing. This is not a knock, because some of these degrees are amazing

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Give you an idea. Look at Purdue School of Engineering and Purdue Polytechnic. That is how to differentiate

Also, most of the colleges people are posting are not colleges engineers go to besides HM, CT, and MIT. I mean they are great colleges for a few of the 500+ kids, but an aerospace engineer is not going to Princeton, Swathmore etc…. So I don’t quite understand that.

Yes, they do.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid there who is loving it. Great program, great opportunities, great teachers/counselors/principal. Engineering classes are ver hands on. They'll take intro to Engineering design, principles of engineering, digital electronics, civil or aerospace or computer, then a senior capstone with a project. There are various engineering clubs, robotics, science, etc. Plus art, theatre, chorus. (Great chorus and theatre teachers). Band/orch is not particularly strong. Gorgeous building. Welcome!

Thank you for this clarification. I have heard that the programs like engineering at Wheaton are tech programs for kids who aren't going to college but rather into fields like mechanics, AC repair, and so on. Do the engineering kids take AP classes?

No the engineering magnet at Wheaton is for kids who want to be aerospace engineers or architects.

Maybe it is now, but my daughter is in college for aero/astro engineering and was specifically told Blair Magnet was a better option to get into top engineering programs for BA/MA engineers and the Wheaton program was great for polytechnic engineering schools. Not A/C repair etc... but engineering technology and design and graphing. This is not a knock, because some of these degrees are amazing

+1

Give you an idea. Look at Purdue School of Engineering and Purdue Polytechnic. That is how to differentiate

Also, most of the colleges people are posting are not colleges engineers go to besides HM, CT, and MIT. I mean they are great colleges for a few of the 500+ kids, but an aerospace engineer is not going to Princeton, Swathmore etc…. So I don’t quite understand that.

That initial statement is totally false.
Not everyone is going for Aero. Princeton and Swarthmore are top schools w/ good engineering programs. Also, some kids decide not to do engineering or want more of a liberal arts experience, so all the admits are relevant. We should add JHU, GT, CMU, Cornell and more to that list. I don't know any kids from Wheaton going to Purdue Poly. I really don't get the people who are trying to suggest that Wheaton is some lesser "Lincoln Tech" type of program (dating myself here)! Maybe this is more confusion w/ Edison on your part. It sounds like you have no real knowledge of the Wheaton magnet program.

I am the parent with kids at Blair magnet and Wheaton engineering. Wheaton is the better program for a student interested in an engineering career. As I said previously, Blair has had an established relationship with top colleges. WHeaton is only 10 years old, so people should look at the current admits, not ones from several years ago. It has done amazing things for such a young magnet program. Curriculum-wise, Wheaton offers much more for the student interested in engineering (Civil, Elect, Comp, Aero or Mech), unless that student really wants Thermodynamics which is at Blair, but Blair doesn't have the various engineer topics.

I have one DC at Blair currently and one recent graduate of Wheaton engineering, and have the same opinion as this post. If focused on engineering, the Wheaton program really is great. It is smaller, more personal and so many opportunities. And yes, the engineering kids went to Swarthmore, Duke and similar as well as Caltech and MIT.

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Anonymous wrote:A list of names is nice, and this one is impressive. Of additional use in figuring out whether one program or another might best suit a student would be, say, the proportion of those graduating from each program that are admitted to a particular selection of schools, whether the target is an Ivy, the top STEM schools, the generic top 25, etc.

Are more than headlines available somewhere? Of course, it's understood that it would be a YMMV/past performance is not a guarantee of future results situation.

What are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid there who is loving it. Great program, great opportunities, great teachers/counselors/principal. Engineering classes are ver hands on. They'll take intro to Engineering design, principles of engineering, digital electronics, civil or aerospace or computer, then a senior capstone with a project. There are various engineering clubs, robotics, science, etc. Plus art, theatre, chorus. (Great chorus and theatre teachers). Band/orch is not particularly strong. Gorgeous building. Welcome!

Thank you for this clarification. I have heard that the programs like engineering at Wheaton are tech programs for kids who aren't going to college but rather into fields like mechanics, AC repair, and so on. Do the engineering kids take AP classes?

No the engineering magnet at Wheaton is for kids who want to be aerospace engineers or architects.

Maybe it is now, but my daughter is in college for aero/astro engineering and was specifically told Blair Magnet was a better option to get into top engineering programs for BA/MA engineers and the Wheaton program was great for polytechnic engineering schools. Not A/C repair etc... but engineering technology and design and graphing. This is not a knock, because some of these degrees are amazing

+1

Give you an idea. Look at Purdue School of Engineering and Purdue Polytechnic. That is how to differentiate

Also, most of the colleges people are posting are not colleges engineers go to besides HM, CT, and MIT. I mean they are great colleges for a few of the 500+ kids, but an aerospace engineer is not going to Princeton, Swathmore etc…. So I don’t quite understand that.

These kids start high school at 13 or 14 years old. Maybe they ultimately decide to study engineering, maybe not. Maybe they decide to study engineering (not aerospace) at Princeton, or philosophy at Swarthmore.

Either way, it seems clear that Wheaton's programs provide a great education in a supportive setting.

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I recently read that Wheaton has the most students admitted to UMDCP's Smith School of Engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:I recently read that Wheaton has the most students admitted to UMDCP's Smith School of Engineering.

UMD's engineering school is the A. James Clark School of Engineering.

The business school is the Robert H. Smith School of Business.

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Anonymous wrote:A list of names is nice, and this one is impressive. Of additional use in figuring out whether one program or another might best suit a student would be, say, the proportion of those graduating from each program that are admitted to a particular selection of schools, whether the target is an Ivy, the top STEM schools, the generic top 25, etc.

Are more than headlines available somewhere? Of course, it's understood that it would be a YMMV/past performance is not a guarantee of future results situation.

Right, because any school in Wheaton that is successful merits not only skepticism, but extra-close scrutiny. Right?

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How big are the programs?

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Anonymous wrote:How big are the programs?

About 30 kids per grade.