High MAP scores in 5th 5/6 math

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has always scored high (upper 90s perentile) without enrichment. Just seems to "get" math in a way I never did as a kid. I don't think it's necessary to get enrichment to do well.

OP here - I’m taking upper 99th percentile here. Specifically, 272 in 5th grade.

I think there was something screwy with the test this year. My DC got a score similar to that, as did at least four of her classmates. I wonder if this isn’t some weird fluke and we will find out it that RIT score is more like 98 percent this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has always scored high (upper 90s perentile) without enrichment. Just seems to "get" math in a way I never did as a kid. I don't think it's necessary to get enrichment to do well.

OP here - I’m taking upper 99th percentile here. Specifically, 272 in 5th grade.

I think there was something screwy with the test this year. My DC got a score similar to that, as did at least four of her classmates. I wonder if this isn’t some weird fluke and we will find out it that RIT score is more like 98 percent this year.

That makes sense. He also said it was easier than usual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has always scored high (upper 90s perentile) without enrichment. Just seems to "get" math in a way I never did as a kid. I don't think it's necessary to get enrichment to do well.

OP here - I’m taking upper 99th percentile here. Specifically, 272 in 5th grade.

I think there was something screwy with the test this year. My DC got a score similar to that, as did at least four of her classmates. I wonder if this isn’t some weird fluke and we will find out it that RIT score is more like 98 percent this year.

The RIT scores only adjust every five years. So they are set.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of my kids scored around 250 at age 8 and in the high 270s in 5th. When they got to 6th their score jumped to the 280s. Since we're not in Potomac, Algebra in 6th wasn't an option. I think they mostly just like math. Anyway, at least 2-3 times there was a big jump in their score like 25-30 points. I'm not sure why to be honest.

And yet, those of us not in Potomac, or a "good" school district had our kids in Algebra in 6th.

[Anonymous]

Wow, that is impressive with high score. I am not sure if we are talking about the test, my first grader gets 220 on map Math, 99 percentile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, that is impressive with high score. I am not sure if we are talking about the test, my first grader gets 220 on map Math, 99 percentile.

It's a different test for K-2, 3-5, and 6+

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has always scored high (upper 90s perentile) without enrichment. Just seems to "get" math in a way I never did as a kid. I don't think it's necessary to get enrichment to do well.

OP here - I’m taking upper 99th percentile here. Specifically, 272 in 5th grade.

I think there was something screwy with the test this year. My DC got a score similar to that, as did at least four of her classmates. I wonder if this isn’t some weird fluke and we will find out it that RIT score is more like 98 percent this year.

That makes sense. He also said it was easier than usual.

I'm pretty sure the only release a new test every few years in the fall because the test is adaptive people don't see the same questions they come from bank. My point is that it's the same old test and your kids either had a good day or a bad day.

[Anonymous]

296 for my DS when at 5th grade. 301 was the highest I've ever heard for a 5th grader that I know in person. They both got accepted for TPMS before pandemic. Now at 300-315 range for middle school MAP-M.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, that is impressive with high score. I am not sure if we are talking about the test, my first grader gets 220 on map Math, 99 percentile.

It's a different test for K-2, 3-5, and 6+

This too but typically kids at score high have the score go down at those transition points a dozen or so points on average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:296 for my DS when at 5th grade. 301 was the highest I've ever heard for a 5th grader that I know in person. They both got accepted for TPMS before pandemic. Now at 300-315 range for middle school MAP-M.

What type of enrichment was he receiving? How many years ahead was he? My DS got 255 when at 4th grade and was/is doing 7th grade-level Khan Academy.

[Anonymous]

Its also different once kids hit Algebra so a 6-7th grader not doing Algebra may have a different test than a 6-7th grader doing Algebra so the scores aren't comparable.

https://teach.mapnwea.org/impl/CSNormsOverview.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:296 for my DS when at 5th grade. 301 was the highest I've ever heard for a 5th grader that I know in person. They both got accepted for TPMS before pandemic. Now at 300-315 range for middle school MAP-M.

What type of enrichment was he receiving? How many years ahead was he? My DS got 255 when at 4th grade and was/is doing 7th grade-level Khan Academy.

Algebra1 @ 5th grade. Now self-pacing learning calculus on Khan Academy and AOPS. For them, solving a couple of AMC12 or AIME level math problems is part of their morning routine to wake up their brains on the long way to school.

Back to the MAP test, since every time the first question starts at the level where kids start to fail at the previous round, they need to consistently make a high score to get harder problems next round. I'd say enrichment and smartness can help achieve 280+ score. For higher scores, they need to be correct on every question that's already been hard from the very beginning. Therefore, knowing some knowledge in advance doesn't help much. Mastering the knowledge is the key to solve them all correctly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:296 for my DS when at 5th grade. 301 was the highest I've ever heard for a 5th grader that I know in person. They both got accepted for TPMS before pandemic. Now at 300-315 range for middle school MAP-M.

What type of enrichment was he receiving? How many years ahead was he? My DS got 255 when at 4th grade and was/is doing 7th grade-level Khan Academy.

The question here was about getting high scores without enrichment!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:296 for my DS when at 5th grade. 301 was the highest I've ever heard for a 5th grader that I know in person. They both got accepted for TPMS before pandemic. Now at 300-315 range for middle school MAP-M.

What type of enrichment was he receiving? How many years ahead was he? My DS got 255 when at 4th grade and was/is doing 7th grade-level Khan Academy.

Algebra1 @ 5th grade. Now self-pacing learning calculus on Khan Academy and AOPS. For them, solving a couple of AMC12 or AIME level math problems is part of their morning routine to wake up their brains on the long way to school.

Back to the MAP test, since every time the first question starts at the level where kids start to fail at the previous round, they need to consistently make a high score to get harder problems next round. I'd say enrichment and smartness can help achieve 280+ score. For higher scores, they need to be correct on every question that's already been hard from the very beginning. Therefore, knowing some knowledge in advance doesn't help much. Mastering the knowledge is the key to solve them all correctly.

Impressive! Thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous]

Aaaanndd this thread reveals its true message...typical MOCO parents trying to game the system to get their kids ahead. See you in a few years when the kids are having mental health issues because they've been pushed too hard and equate your love to their GPA.