St. Andrews vs. STA for high school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the NCS person. Yes, I agree, who cares how “prestigious” a high school is. But you asked for the differences and I’m telling you. STA is more “prestigious.” It’s academically rigorous. St Andrews is newer and the perception was it was not as rigorous or “prestigious.”

We’ll you supposedly went to NCS (which again is neither but I understand it’s relation to Saint Albans ) yet you failed to point out that one is coed and one is not? Seems like the first thing anyone would say if they were being sincere. But you do manage to point out that one is “prestigious” (cringe) and one is apparently not? I don’t buy it nor does anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the NCS person. Yes, I agree, who cares how “prestigious” a high school is. But you asked for the differences and I’m telling you. STA is more “prestigious.” It’s academically rigorous. St Andrews is newer and the perception was it was not as rigorous or “prestigious.”

We’ll you supposedly went to NCS (which again is neither but I understand it’s relation to Saint Albans ) yet you failed to point out that one is coed and one is not? Seems like the first thing anyone would say if they were being sincere. But you do manage to point out that one is “prestigious” (cringe) and one is apparently not? I don’t buy it nor does anyone else.

I think you meant to write “its relation” not “it’s relation”. You’d know better if you attended a prestigious school.

[Anonymous]

STA is much, much, much harder to get into.

The boys wear matching-ish outfits.

The environment is much more classical/traditional.

Disagree with PP that STA has a "city" like campus. When you're on the grounds, it's expansive and bucolic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:STA is much, much, much harder to get into.

The boys wear matching-ish outfits.

The environment is much more classical/traditional.

Disagree with PP that STA has a "city" like campus. When you're on the grounds, it's expansive and bucolic.

Not sure you know what bucolic means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More HW, More Rigor and significantly Better College Placement at STA

Very dated view

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the “snobs” comments rest, assured, they have zero experience with either school. These are two very different schools.

Obviously, the biggest difference: One is coed one is not.

One is located in the suburbs with a beautiful suburban feel the other is the polar opposite with a fabulous city like feel. Both offet strong academics. Both offer sports. Contact admissions for both schools and decide which one is for you.

Most importantly, I think it’s time to decide whether you want to send your child to a coed school or not.

Keep in mind if you mention Saint Albans or certain other schools here, people love to chime in —even if their kids don’t go there —it’s very strange.

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PP here. Actually I know STA well because I went to NCS and my younger brother went to STA.

True that I do not have direct experience with St Andrew’s. Perhaps it’s changed, but historically it was a school for rich kids who couldn’t get into a more prestigious choice and not nearly as rigorous

No that is not the history of the school. It was formed by Episcopal parents who wanted an inclusive school that better represented the Episcopal faith and embraced different types of learners. They take pride in a school community that fosters balanced education and joy.

They have grown considerably in their mission. It is both rigorous and creative.

Amount of homework is not an accurate measure of quality of education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:STA is much, much, much harder to get into.

The boys wear matching-ish outfits.

The environment is much more classical/traditional.

Disagree with PP that STA has a "city" like campus. When you're on the grounds, it's expansive and bucolic.

Not sure you know what bucolic means.

Ok, it's not the Cotswolds, you sure got me there! Thinking of bishop's garden, cornerstone garden, the Olmstead woods, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the “snobs” comments rest, assured, they have zero experience with either school. These are two very different schools.

Obviously, the biggest difference: One is coed one is not.

One is located in the suburbs with a beautiful suburban feel the other is the polar opposite with a fabulous city like feel. Both offet strong academics. Both offer sports. Contact admissions for both schools and decide which one is for you.

Most importantly, I think it’s time to decide whether you want to send your child to a coed school or not.

Keep in mind if you mention Saint Albans or certain other schools here, people love to chime in —even if their kids don’t go there —it’s very strange.

.

PP here. Actually I know STA well because I went to NCS and my younger brother went to STA.

True that I do not have direct experience with St Andrew’s. Perhaps it’s changed, but historically it was a school for rich kids who couldn’t get into a more prestigious choice and not nearly as rigorous

St. Andrew's talks a big game, but doesn't deliver. Sub par teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the “snobs” comments rest, assured, they have zero experience with either school. These are two very different schools.

Obviously, the biggest difference: One is coed one is not.

One is located in the suburbs with a beautiful suburban feel the other is the polar opposite with a fabulous city like feel. Both offet strong academics. Both offer sports. Contact admissions for both schools and decide which one is for you.

Most importantly, I think it’s time to decide whether you want to send your child to a coed school or not.

Keep in mind if you mention Saint Albans or certain other schools here, people love to chime in —even if their kids don’t go there —it’s very strange.

.

PP here. Actually I know STA well because I went to NCS and my younger brother went to STA.

True that I do not have direct experience with St Andrew’s. Perhaps it’s changed, but historically it was a school for rich kids who couldn’t get into a more prestigious choice and not nearly as rigorous

No that is not the history of the school. It was formed by Episcopal parents who wanted an inclusive school that better represented the Episcopal faith and embraced different types of learners. They take pride in a school community that fosters balanced education and joy.

They have grown considerably in their mission. It is both rigorous and creative.





Amount of homework is not an accurate measure of quality of education.[/quo
St. Andrew's......please. When covid is under control, and more families return to public school, they will be back to taking anyone who applies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ignore the “snobs” comments rest, assured, they have zero experience with either school. These are two very different schools.

Obviously, the biggest difference: One is coed one is not.

One is located in the suburbs with a beautiful suburban feel the other is the polar opposite with a fabulous city like feel. Both offet strong academics. Both offer sports. Contact admissions for both schools and decide which one is for you.

Most importantly, I think it’s time to decide whether you want to send your child to a coed school or not.

Keep in mind if you mention Saint Albans or certain other schools here, people love to chime in —even if their kids don’t go there —it’s very strange.

.

PP here. Actually I know STA well because I went to NCS and my younger brother went to STA.

True that I do not have direct experience with St Andrew’s. Perhaps it’s changed, but historically it was a school for rich kids who couldn’t get into a more prestigious choice and not nearly as rigorous

No that is not the history of the school. It was formed by Episcopal parents who wanted an inclusive school that better represented the Episcopal faith and embraced different types of learners. They take pride in a school community that fosters balanced education and joy.

They have grown considerably in their mission. It is both rigorous and creative.





Amount of homework is not an accurate measure of quality of education.[/quo
St. Andrew's......please. When covid is under control, and more families return to public school, they will be back to taking anyone who applies.

This is a very dated and inaccurate perception.

[Anonymous]

I think both these schools are similar at heart. However, they have very different histories and provide different student experiences.

STA provides more of the Dead Poet's Society experience of jackets and ties, assigned lunch seats, pressure to succeed. It was founded in 1909 and has maintained traditions from that era. STA is known for rigor and historically has larger % of graduates going to higher ranked colleges. STA has been consistently excellent throughout its long history.

SAES was founded as an offshoot from the Cathedral schools in 1978 with 40 students in a church basement. In 44 years it has expanded from 7th-9th grades to preschool-12 and over 700 students. It has developed it's own traditions and has shown an increasing DEI commitment that includes an extensive bus system and well-qualified, diverse new hires. SAES continues to improve itself each and every year.

Both care about producing well rounded students, both have commitment to service and community, and both provide a good amount of financial aid to their students.

STA has more mystery (tuition, endowment, etc), SAES is very transparent and communicative.

STA will get you more social approval in some networks, but it may not be the right match for your son.

Visit both, apply to both, and good luck with your choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think both these schools are similar at heart. However, they have very different histories and provide different student experiences.

STA provides more of the Dead Poet's Society experience of jackets and ties, assigned lunch seats, pressure to succeed. It was founded in 1909 and has maintained traditions from that era. STA is known for rigor and historically has larger % of graduates going to higher ranked colleges. STA has been consistently excellent throughout its long history.

SAES was founded as an offshoot from the Cathedral schools in 1978 with 40 students in a church basement. In 44 years it has expanded from 7th-9th grades to preschool-12 and over 700 students. It has developed it's own traditions and has shown an increasing DEI commitment that includes an extensive bus system and well-qualified, diverse new hires. SAES continues to improve itself each and every year.

Both care about producing well rounded students, both have commitment to service and community, and both provide a good amount of financial aid to their students.

STA has more mystery (tuition, endowment, etc), SAES is very transparent and communicative.

STA will get you more social approval in some networks, but it may not be the right match for your son.

Visit both, apply to both, and good luck with your choice.

+1 this plus, keep in mind that if your son attends Saint Albans is an all boys school. If you’re looking for that, then you might wanna reply to some other options like Prep. If you’re looking for coed, you might want to look at some other coed options, too.

[Anonymous]

Isn’t Saint Andrews Episcopal School partnered up with Johns Hopkins University with some sort of stellar research based learning curriculum? I’m not really sure. But certainly worth looking into.

[Anonymous]

But are the parents at either school as breathtakingly attractive as the ones at catholic school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But are the parents at either school as breathtakingly attractive as the ones at catholic school?

I know you are joking but in all seriousness, we found the Parent community at SAES much friendlier than at Catholic schools - but we found the teachers and religion classes at our Catholic school very genuine, caring and surprisingly inclusive.

No one school is perfect so depends on where your child feels happy.