Was the person speeding??? If the person wasn't speeding then they wouldn't get pulled over and the police wouldn't have a chance to find other infractions. I don't get it. Why is it a problem? |
No. That's what pretext means. That's what driving while black is - they pulled people over and said their taillight was out (even if it wasn't) or they were speeding or ran a stop sign or drifted out of their lane. Just to pull them over an harass them, or because they assumed being black means they have a higher likelihood of having drugs on them or something. Look what happened to Philando Castile - pulled over 49 times in 13 years. Driving with tinted windows. An "unlit license plate" at night. Turning into a parking lot without signaling. No dangerous reckless speeding, nothing you'd have to prove with a radar reading, nothing anyone I know has ever been pulled over for once. Just hassling him because he was a black guy with dreads - "fit the description" in recruits heads of what a criminal looks like. This is why cops fought body cameras so hard. Hard to make up a pretext when it can be reviewed. |
You are wrong on the state of the technology. I know that’s the hypothetical outcome but it is NOT the current reality and it’s not the reality on the horizon. |
FSD is always “5 years away” (going on 15 years now) What’s best is we need to hit level 5 or bust. Level 4 is so dangerous: car drives in easy situations, then suddenly demands the (sleeping, reading, daydreaming) driver to take control in complex/emergency situations, and drivers will have degraded abilities from not driving as much. |
People are making the left from Mass Ave during times it isn't allowed, because of the closure of Ridgefield Road. Police are actively enforcing it. I just go up Mass and do a U turn so I can make a right onto LF Parkway. |
| I saw someone getting pulled over on 270 in MD on Thanksgiving day. |
On the ICC it continues too. What I have noticed OP is that some pullovers I've seen involve 2 cop cars, not just the typical 1. |
| Defund the police. Speeding stops are pretexts for racial harassment, nothing more. |
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I agree, OP. I’m routinely on the beltway and see:
Aggressive driving, excessive speed, no lights after dusk, no license plates, etc. I’m wondering how bad you have to drive to get pulled over. Do police just not enforce traffic laws any more? |
Kind of lost us there. Don't know a single person, to include numerous POC, who have been pulled over that often. Philando was likely a crappy driver. Pretext stops has nothing to do with many officers being against bodycams. There are so many violations in the motor vehicle code that you can pull over virtually anyone and do it legally. Sounds like you don't know any cops. |
| Philandro wasn’t even driving |
| Aren't the traffic cameras everywhere catching speeders? No need to pull people over. |
| I’ve lived in DC for 15 years and have only seen two cars pulled over. Two. Yet drivers routinely speed, run red lights and stop signs, and violate other traffic laws. |
Cameras catch speeders but people just don’t pay the fine. The cameras are for generating revenue. If they actually worked as a deterrent, there would be less speeding and there’s not. |
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I don't think police should pull people over for minor traffic infractions, which are IMHO just excuses. People end up dead over a turn signal.
Just scan their license plate and ticket the registered owner. Done. |