What is wrong with Americans? Target lost $400M due to mass theft

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just a quick reminder that compared to other developed nations, we incarcerate more people and for longer periods of time than any other developed nation. We also have more gun violence and other types of crime than many other nations. So jailing even more people people and giving them even harsher sentences doesn’t seem to be enough. Any other suggestions my friends on the right?

Maybe Americans commit more crime because we are less civilized? Stop committing crime. Americans have a disease social contract mentality compared to citizens of other nations.

What does your last sentence mean?

Probably more progressive gibberish. Less prosecution of property crimes, a progressive agenda, leads to more crime. Pretty simple.

Instead of regurgitating GOP talking points, would you care to address the RED Murder State problem that I addressed on page one? Or, will you just admit to your cognitive dissonance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is utterly appalling:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/target-organized-retail-crime-400-million-profits-113006396.html

What has happened to Americans' mindsets where they feel entitled and emboldened to pull this kind of crap off? Do we still have a civilized society anymore, or are we descending further and further into anarchy where it is take all as much as you want, whenever you want. Retail crime is so out of control in this country, and it has real consequences, because stores just get fed up and leave or close. Many vulnerable populations are then shutoff from access to necessities. The idea that we should not be going after and prosecuting retail crimes is a huge mistake.

Amazingly some people need an actual deterrent to not commit crime. The threat of being arrested was enough of a deterrent for some people. Remove it and what do you expect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is utterly appalling:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/target-organized-retail-crime-400-million-profits-113006396.html

What has happened to Americans' mindsets where they feel entitled and emboldened to pull this kind of crap off? Do we still have a civilized society anymore, or are we descending further and further into anarchy where it is take all as much as you want, whenever you want. Retail crime is so out of control in this country, and it has real consequences, because stores just get fed up and leave or close. Many vulnerable populations are then shutoff from access to necessities. The idea that we should not be going after and prosecuting retail crimes is a huge mistake.

Yep. Our Wegmans eliminated their program where you checked yourself out with the scanners (I forget the name) due to theft. This is in a high SES, pretty low crime overall, area so people have the money to pay for things. It's revolting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a quick reminder that compared to other developed nations, we incarcerate more people and for longer periods of time than any other developed nation. We also have more gun violence and other types of crime than many other nations. So jailing even more people people and giving them even harsher sentences doesn’t seem to be enough. Any other suggestions my friends on the right?

Maybe Americans commit more crime because we are less civilized? Stop committing crime. Americans have a disease social contract mentality compared to citizens of other nations.

What does your last sentence mean?

It means Americans have a completely f*cked sense of community and citizenship. Everyone is an entitled ahole out for themselves, so they feel emboldened to take whatever they want, when they want, because they feel 'owed'. A complete morally bankrupt nation of imbeciles and criminals run amok.

Could not agree more with your assessment of my fellow Americans. And it's not just "the poors."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:According to the Tenley Target staff it's been happening there -- though I don't know if it's some mass criminal ring. Everything is now locked up, including the large detergent bottles. I asked how someone would take that out and was told they just grab the stuff and run to the metro and sell it. I haven't ever seen a black market in the Tenley station, so not sure what's happening but Mayor Bowser would be wise to figure it out so we're not losing stores to Montgomery Co. It's such a pain to shop there now.

And look at what happened to Baltimore - Target closed at the Mowdawmin site, which served a huge marginalized population. They had huge problems with theft there. And look what happens - little old grannies in that area of Baltimore now have to make much longer hikes to where stores are open. Many of those people don't even own cars. There are real consequences for this despicable, selfish behavior. It isn't just 'corporations losing money, no one gets hurt'. The ridiculous tolerance for this anarchy harms many people across swaths of communities in the country.

What do you propose?

Prosecuting all theft hard. Or putting a lien or docking someone's paycheck/welfare benefits for 3x the cost of whatever they're caught stealing.

Stiff penalties, period.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is utterly appalling:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/target-organized-retail-crime-400-million-profits-113006396.html

What has happened to Americans' mindsets where they feel entitled and emboldened to pull this kind of crap off? Do we still have a civilized society anymore, or are we descending further and further into anarchy where it is take all as much as you want, whenever you want. Retail crime is so out of control in this country, and it has real consequences, because stores just get fed up and leave or close. Many vulnerable populations are then shutoff from access to necessities. The idea that we should not be going after and prosecuting retail crimes is a huge mistake.

Amazingly some people need an actual deterrent to not commit crime. The threat of being arrested was enough of a deterrent for some people. Remove it and what do you expect?

+1 Same for some kids in school. They need an appropriate consequence for wrong behavior and not just rewards for good behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is utterly appalling:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/target-organized-retail-crime-400-million-profits-113006396.html

What has happened to Americans' mindsets where they feel entitled and emboldened to pull this kind of crap off? Do we still have a civilized society anymore, or are we descending further and further into anarchy where it is take all as much as you want, whenever you want. Retail crime is so out of control in this country, and it has real consequences, because stores just get fed up and leave or close. Many vulnerable populations are then shutoff from access to necessities. The idea that we should not be going after and prosecuting retail crimes is a huge mistake.

Yep. Our Wegmans eliminated their program where you checked yourself out with the scanners (I forget the name) due to theft. This is in a high SES, pretty low crime overall, area so people have the money to pay for things. It's revolting.

I used and liked the Wegmans scanner program in Fairfax and was disappointed when it went away. But the Giant near me still has a handheld scanner program and has for many years. I wonder why it was a problem for Wegmans but isn't for Giant? I was surprised because, as you said, this is a high SES/low crime area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to the Tenley Target staff it's been happening there -- though I don't know if it's some mass criminal ring. Everything is now locked up, including the large detergent bottles. I asked how someone would take that out and was told they just grab the stuff and run to the metro and sell it. I haven't ever seen a black market in the Tenley station, so not sure what's happening but Mayor Bowser would be wise to figure it out so we're not losing stores to Montgomery Co. It's such a pain to shop there now.

And look at what happened to Baltimore - Target closed at the Mowdawmin site, which served a huge marginalized population. They had huge problems with theft there. And look what happens - little old grannies in that area of Baltimore now have to make much longer hikes to where stores are open. Many of those people don't even own cars. There are real consequences for this despicable, selfish behavior. It isn't just 'corporations losing money, no one gets hurt'. The ridiculous tolerance for this anarchy harms many people across swaths of communities in the country.

What do you propose?

Prosecuting all theft hard. Or putting a lien or docking someone's paycheck/welfare benefits for 3x the cost of whatever they're caught stealing.

Stiff penalties, period.

America has some of the highest incarceration rates in the world. Penalties like stiff proesecutions are simply not a deterrent. And putting a lien on poor peoples' income stream isn't either.

Have you ever been poor? I have and I can tell you it's not a deterrent to many things. You'll do anything to save a buck or come out ahead a bit. And while I didn't outright steal things, I def. gamed things like parking to avoid having to pay it and just hoped I wouldn't get caught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to the Tenley Target staff it's been happening there -- though I don't know if it's some mass criminal ring. Everything is now locked up, including the large detergent bottles. I asked how someone would take that out and was told they just grab the stuff and run to the metro and sell it. I haven't ever seen a black market in the Tenley station, so not sure what's happening but Mayor Bowser would be wise to figure it out so we're not losing stores to Montgomery Co. It's such a pain to shop there now.

And look at what happened to Baltimore - Target closed at the Mowdawmin site, which served a huge marginalized population. They had huge problems with theft there. And look what happens - little old grannies in that area of Baltimore now have to make much longer hikes to where stores are open. Many of those people don't even own cars. There are real consequences for this despicable, selfish behavior. It isn't just 'corporations losing money, no one gets hurt'. The ridiculous tolerance for this anarchy harms many people across swaths of communities in the country.

What do you propose?

Prosecuting all theft hard. Or putting a lien or docking someone's paycheck/welfare benefits for 3x the cost of whatever they're caught stealing.

Stiff penalties, period.

America has some of the highest incarceration rates in the world. Penalties like stiff proesecutions are simply not a deterrent. And putting a lien on poor peoples' income stream isn't either.

Have you ever been poor? I have and I can tell you it's not a deterrent to many things. You'll do anything to save a buck or come out ahead a bit. And while I didn't outright steal things, I def. gamed things like parking to avoid having to pay it and just hoped I wouldn't get caught.

Being poor and stealing a loaf of bread or a carton of milk is not the same as stealing hundreds and thousands of dollars of name brand merchandise. Those people are simply thieves without a conscience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to the Tenley Target staff it's been happening there -- though I don't know if it's some mass criminal ring. Everything is now locked up, including the large detergent bottles. I asked how someone would take that out and was told they just grab the stuff and run to the metro and sell it. I haven't ever seen a black market in the Tenley station, so not sure what's happening but Mayor Bowser would be wise to figure it out so we're not losing stores to Montgomery Co. It's such a pain to shop there now.

And look at what happened to Baltimore - Target closed at the Mowdawmin site, which served a huge marginalized population. They had huge problems with theft there. And look what happens - little old grannies in that area of Baltimore now have to make much longer hikes to where stores are open. Many of those people don't even own cars. There are real consequences for this despicable, selfish behavior. It isn't just 'corporations losing money, no one gets hurt'. The ridiculous tolerance for this anarchy harms many people across swaths of communities in the country.

What do you propose?

Live your vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just a quick reminder that compared to other developed nations, we incarcerate more people and for longer periods of time than any other developed nation. We also have more gun violence and other types of crime than many other nations. So jailing even more people people and giving them even harsher sentences doesn’t seem to be enough. Any other suggestions my friends on the right?

Maybe Americans commit more crime because we are less civilized? Stop committing crime. Americans have a disease social contract mentality compared to citizens of other nations.

What does your last sentence mean?

NP. Means that people think they are entitled because they are being told they are

[Anonymous]

Credit card companies and large retail chains have been writing off theft and fraud loses for decades, under both Democratic and Republican administrations. They're still in business so the status quo must be working for them. It must not be profitable for them to pursue thieves if they identify and/or catch them.

I found this out about 30 years ago when someone got ahold of my credit card number and charged about $700 of goods and services (a psychic consult!) to that number. The cc card company did nothing about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to the Tenley Target staff it's been happening there -- though I don't know if it's some mass criminal ring. Everything is now locked up, including the large detergent bottles. I asked how someone would take that out and was told they just grab the stuff and run to the metro and sell it. I haven't ever seen a black market in the Tenley station, so not sure what's happening but Mayor Bowser would be wise to figure it out so we're not losing stores to Montgomery Co. It's such a pain to shop there now.

And look at what happened to Baltimore - Target closed at the Mowdawmin site, which served a huge marginalized population. They had huge problems with theft there. And look what happens - little old grannies in that area of Baltimore now have to make much longer hikes to where stores are open. Many of those people don't even own cars. There are real consequences for this despicable, selfish behavior. It isn't just 'corporations losing money, no one gets hurt'. The ridiculous tolerance for this anarchy harms many people across swaths of communities in the country.

What do you propose?

Prosecuting all theft hard. Or putting a lien or docking someone's paycheck/welfare benefits for 3x the cost of whatever they're caught stealing.

Stiff penalties, period.

America has some of the highest incarceration rates in the world. Penalties like stiff proesecutions are simply not a deterrent. And putting a lien on poor peoples' income stream isn't either.

Have you ever been poor? I have and I can tell you it's not a deterrent to many things. You'll do anything to save a buck or come out ahead a bit. And while I didn't outright steal things, I def. gamed things like parking to avoid having to pay it and just hoped I wouldn't get caught.

Oh yes, because we are talking about poors stealing bread and food for survival..

Ha, no. They're stealing PlayStations, iphones, electronics, designer clothes, tvs, and jewelry. Best buy has the same issue with increasing thefts. What exactly does best buy sell thats vital for poors' existence and survival?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to the Tenley Target staff it's been happening there -- though I don't know if it's some mass criminal ring. Everything is now locked up, including the large detergent bottles. I asked how someone would take that out and was told they just grab the stuff and run to the metro and sell it. I haven't ever seen a black market in the Tenley station, so not sure what's happening but Mayor Bowser would be wise to figure it out so we're not losing stores to Montgomery Co. It's such a pain to shop there now.

And look at what happened to Baltimore - Target closed at the Mowdawmin site, which served a huge marginalized population. They had huge problems with theft there. And look what happens - little old grannies in that area of Baltimore now have to make much longer hikes to where stores are open. Many of those people don't even own cars. There are real consequences for this despicable, selfish behavior. It isn't just 'corporations losing money, no one gets hurt'. The ridiculous tolerance for this anarchy harms many people across swaths of communities in the country.

What do you propose?

Prosecuting all theft hard. Or putting a lien or docking someone's paycheck/welfare benefits for 3x the cost of whatever they're caught stealing.

Stiff penalties, period.

America has some of the highest incarceration rates in the world. Penalties like stiff proesecutions are simply not a deterrent. And putting a lien on poor peoples' income stream isn't either.

Have you ever been poor? I have and I can tell you it's not a deterrent to many things. You'll do anything to save a buck or come out ahead a bit. And while I didn't outright steal things, I def. gamed things like parking to avoid having to pay it and just hoped I wouldn't get caught.

Being poor and stealing a loaf of bread or a carton of milk is not the same as stealing hundreds and thousands of dollars of name brand merchandise. Those people are simply thieves without a conscience.

Again, you haven't been poor. Obviously. Just because you think poor people should only want for necessities, that is just not how it is. They still have desires and wants other than "Food to eat.' They are human beings. They want the purses, tvs, ear buds, etc. whatever and sometimes people will break the rules to get it. It's not right. It's not ethical, legal, moral, etc. etc. But just because it's not, doesn't mean they won't take the chance if they can get a little bit of what they are missing. Being poor is hard. I don't condone it and not everyone who is poor does it. But it is not correct to say that none of them "have a conscience."

Let me guess, you're one of those people who think kids in the charity christmas programs shouldn't ask for expensive items? Just socks and underwear?

[Anonymous]

This is why Amazon is creating the stores where you need to scan in and do not check out. I think all stores will eventually do this.