Do you think schools/teachers are *formally* told to try to reduce/limit IEP services?

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

We are! We’re always asking for more support. The problem is there aren’t enough special education teachers or para educators. We are facing massive shortages. That means these responsibilities fall on us, the general educators. I am a meticulously organized person, yet I can’t keep up with the demands of my classroom. One test equals about 15 hours of accommodations that I have to meet. I’ll be completely honest: I’m always looking for other jobs. I love what I do, but I can’t give of myself more than I already am. This job takes, and then takes more.

+1 uhhh yeah please point me in the direction of these available personnel

In many states school systems will outsource paraprofessionals and professionals to increase applicant pools and decrease demands on HR /school system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

We are! We’re always asking for more support. The problem is there aren’t enough special education teachers or para educators. We are facing massive shortages. That means these responsibilities fall on us, the general educators. I am a meticulously organized person, yet I can’t keep up with the demands of my classroom. One test equals about 15 hours of accommodations that I have to meet. I’ll be completely honest: I’m always looking for other jobs. I love what I do, but I can’t give of myself more than I already am. This job takes, and then takes more.

If you can’t keep up you’re violating federal law, or the school is. I’d write the principal and superintendent a nicely worded letter telling them you will no longer be part of that and they need to give you help or you’re going to regular Ed effective x date. Or just quit like everyone else has.

I’m sorry that my personal best, which takes away from my own life and my own special needs child, isn’t enough for you. I could write 100 nicely-worded letters. It won’t make a differences. Nobody is applying for these jobs. Your choices are: you can have me, a sincere person doing her best against overwhelming responsibilities or a long-term sub. Those are your choices. I’m working HARD for you. I can’t do any more than I already am. If I quit, you’re left with less than you have now. Threatening me with “ you’re violating federal law” doesn’t help. I KNOW that. I’m trying to FIX that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

We are! We’re always asking for more support. The problem is there aren’t enough special education teachers or para educators. We are facing massive shortages. That means these responsibilities fall on us, the general educators. I am a meticulously organized person, yet I can’t keep up with the demands of my classroom. One test equals about 15 hours of accommodations that I have to meet. I’ll be completely honest: I’m always looking for other jobs. I love what I do, but I can’t give of myself more than I already am. This job takes, and then takes more.

If you can’t keep up you’re violating federal law, or the school is. I’d write the principal and superintendent a nicely worded letter telling them you will no longer be part of that and they need to give you help or you’re going to regular Ed effective x date. Or just quit like everyone else has.

I’m sorry that my personal best, which takes away from my own life and my own special needs child, isn’t enough for you. I could write 100 nicely-worded letters. It won’t make a differences. Nobody is applying for these jobs. Your choices are: you can have me, a sincere person doing her best against overwhelming responsibilities or a long-term sub. Those are your choices. I’m working HARD for you. I can’t do any more than I already am. If I quit, you’re left with less than you have now. Threatening me with “ you’re violating federal law” doesn’t help. I KNOW that. I’m trying to FIX that.

On behalf of my SN child, thank you. Please don’t give up on us. So many are leaving and our children are suffering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

Of course you can’t do it all, PP. You are doing your very best, and I appreciate you. Hang in there, and I hope you get some rest this weekend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

We are! We’re always asking for more support. The problem is there aren’t enough special education teachers or para educators. We are facing massive shortages. That means these responsibilities fall on us, the general educators. I am a meticulously organized person, yet I can’t keep up with the demands of my classroom. One test equals about 15 hours of accommodations that I have to meet. I’ll be completely honest: I’m always looking for other jobs. I love what I do, but I can’t give of myself more than I already am. This job takes, and then takes more.

If you can’t keep up you’re violating federal law, or the school is. I’d write the principal and superintendent a nicely worded letter telling them you will no longer be part of that and they need to give you help or you’re going to regular Ed effective x date. Or just quit like everyone else has.

I’m sorry that my personal best, which takes away from my own life and my own special needs child, isn’t enough for you. I could write 100 nicely-worded letters. It won’t make a differences. Nobody is applying for these jobs. Your choices are: you can have me, a sincere person doing her best against overwhelming responsibilities or a long-term sub. Those are your choices. I’m working HARD for you. I can’t do any more than I already am. If I quit, you’re left with less than you have now. Threatening me with “ you’re violating federal law” doesn’t help. I KNOW that. I’m trying to FIX that.

On behalf of my SN child, thank you. Please don’t give up on us. So many are leaving and our children are suffering.

I’m the PP. Thank you!

I just went to my own child’s P/T conferences this week. She needs so many additional supports and they aren’t being met right now. I know her school is doing the best they can, but they are short staffed and overwhelmed. I feel for everybody. I know my child is suffering. She hates school and she feels her teachers don’t care. They do! They are just spread so thin. She doesn’t understand that, of course, and from her perspective they are unsympathetic. What I saw are overwhelmed teachers. They care about her and want to help, but she is just one of their myriad of daily responsibilities. I feel bad for my kid, who needs more. I also feel bad for her teachers. It’s sad all around.

I think that’s why I throw myself into my job so much. I feel helpless when I work with my own SN child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

Of course you can’t do it all, PP. You are doing your very best, and I appreciate you. Hang in there, and I hope you get some rest this weekend.

Thank you! (I hope we ALL get rest this weekend. It has been a rough couple of years for parents and teachers alike.)

[Anonymous]

As a SN parent, the part that really bothers me is that the frustration truly doesn’t stem from the teachers “ not doing enough”.I feel like it is sometimes misinterpreted by teachers in that way. I know our school system isn’t funded properly and the pay is well below acceptable levels. That is what is so frustrating to me, teachers could be supported much better and students as well. I really do feel like SN parents need to legally address this with the school system as a whole. That is the only way change will happen unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

We are! We’re always asking for more support. The problem is there aren’t enough special education teachers or para educators. We are facing massive shortages. That means these responsibilities fall on us, the general educators. I am a meticulously organized person, yet I can’t keep up with the demands of my classroom. One test equals about 15 hours of accommodations that I have to meet. I’ll be completely honest: I’m always looking for other jobs. I love what I do, but I can’t give of myself more than I already am. This job takes, and then takes more.

If you can’t keep up you’re violating federal law, or the school is. I’d write the principal and superintendent a nicely worded letter telling them you will no longer be part of that and they need to give you help or you’re going to regular Ed effective x date. Or just quit like everyone else has.

Blow off, PP. You and people like you, who try to penalize and threaten the few who are trying to do the work of many ARE the major problem. People like you who demand more and more from the people who are doing the work are making it so that other teachers are not willing to enter the field. People like you are making the job even more miserable than it already is. These teachers work as much as they possibly can, most of them giving way too much of their personal time to take care of the many special needs and special accommodations that are being requested. They do the best they can. But people like you demand more and insult the people who are doing the work when they don't give more.

Your ideas and comments stink. I hope you aren't a parent, but you probably are one of the ones that make teachers lives miserable.

[Anonymous]

Having had a child with issues go through a large public school system, every teacher we had was doing their absolute best! Sure I was frustrated/disappointed at times but it was never with the individual teacher but the system.

We need to pay teachers more, increase staff, decrease class size, extend year( still have breaks). The system we have does not work but I completely understand that most of the issues are not from the teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

What makes you think we aren't?

Look at any district's job postings. There are always openings for SPED teachers and paras. Always.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

We are! We’re always asking for more support. The problem is there aren’t enough special education teachers or para educators. We are facing massive shortages. That means these responsibilities fall on us, the general educators. I am a meticulously organized person, yet I can’t keep up with the demands of my classroom. One test equals about 15 hours of accommodations that I have to meet. I’ll be completely honest: I’m always looking for other jobs. I love what I do, but I can’t give of myself more than I already am. This job takes, and then takes more.

This is already happening across many district. They currently contract with many staffing companies. Nevertheless, the slots aren't filled because the staffing companies are also having staffing issues. People have left the field.

+1 uhhh yeah please point me in the direction of these available personnel

In many states school systems will outsource paraprofessionals and professionals to increase applicant pools and decrease demands on HR /school system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

We are! We’re always asking for more support. The problem is there aren’t enough special education teachers or para educators. We are facing massive shortages. That means these responsibilities fall on us, the general educators. I am a meticulously organized person, yet I can’t keep up with the demands of my classroom. One test equals about 15 hours of accommodations that I have to meet. I’ll be completely honest: I’m always looking for other jobs. I love what I do, but I can’t give of myself more than I already am. This job takes, and then takes more.

This is already happening across many district. They currently contract with many staffing companies. Nevertheless, the slots aren't filled because the staffing companies are also having staffing issues. People have left the field.

+1 uhhh yeah please point me in the direction of these available personnel

In many states school systems will outsource paraprofessionals and professionals to increase applicant pools and decrease demands on HR /school system.

Outsource them from where?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

We are! We’re always asking for more support. The problem is there aren’t enough special education teachers or para educators. We are facing massive shortages. That means these responsibilities fall on us, the general educators. I am a meticulously organized person, yet I can’t keep up with the demands of my classroom. One test equals about 15 hours of accommodations that I have to meet. I’ll be completely honest: I’m always looking for other jobs. I love what I do, but I can’t give of myself more than I already am. This job takes, and then takes more.

If you can’t keep up you’re violating federal law, or the school is. I’d write the principal and superintendent a nicely worded letter telling them you will no longer be part of that and they need to give you help or you’re going to regular Ed effective x date. Or just quit like everyone else has.

Blow off, PP. You and people like you, who try to penalize and threaten the few who are trying to do the work of many ARE the major problem. People like you who demand more and more from the people who are doing the work are making it so that other teachers are not willing to enter the field. People like you are making the job even more miserable than it already is. These teachers work as much as they possibly can, most of them giving way too much of their personal time to take care of the many special needs and special accommodations that are being requested. They do the best they can. But people like you demand more and insult the people who are doing the work when they don't give more.

Your ideas and comments stink. I hope you aren't a parent, but you probably are one of the ones that make teachers lives miserable.

Perfectly stated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:100% yes, at least in APS.

100% MCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. I’ve never been told to do this. I will admit that it can be overwhelming. In a typical year, I may have 150 student overall. 40 of them may have an IEP or 504. I’m overwhelmed. It’s hard to respectfully follow each student’s plan. For example, one test may require 6 different versions to accommodate different needs. I have to create those tests. Some need to be given under different scenarios. (This student needs me to write for them. This student needs me to read all questions out loud.) I have to stay after school to accommodate that. I’m already working 60+ hours a week. Yes, some things slip through the cracks. I’m trying. I’m always trying. I’m just one person, however, and I’m being asked to do the work of three. No, I’m not ignoring IEPs and 504s. I just can’t do it all.

If you can’t do it all, then why aren’t general education teachers advocating for students to have more para educator and special education teacher hours? Those hours would supplement the time spent administering the tests with appropriate accommodations.

We are! We’re always asking for more support. The problem is there aren’t enough special education teachers or para educators. We are facing massive shortages. That means these responsibilities fall on us, the general educators. I am a meticulously organized person, yet I can’t keep up with the demands of my classroom. One test equals about 15 hours of accommodations that I have to meet. I’ll be completely honest: I’m always looking for other jobs. I love what I do, but I can’t give of myself more than I already am. This job takes, and then takes more.

If you can’t keep up you’re violating federal law, or the school is. I’d write the principal and superintendent a nicely worded letter telling them you will no longer be part of that and they need to give you help or you’re going to regular Ed effective x date. Or just quit like everyone else has.

Blow off, PP. You and people like you, who try to penalize and threaten the few who are trying to do the work of many ARE the major problem. People like you who demand more and more from the people who are doing the work are making it so that other teachers are not willing to enter the field. People like you are making the job even more miserable than it already is. These teachers work as much as they possibly can, most of them giving way too much of their personal time to take care of the many special needs and special accommodations that are being requested. They do the best they can. But people like you demand more and insult the people who are doing the work when they don't give more.

Your ideas and comments stink. I hope you aren't a parent, but you probably are one of the ones that make teachers lives miserable.

Perfectly stated.

Genuine question here, if my child needs specialized education services, such as reading or math bc they have SLD, should we ( as parents) not be expecting services bc there is a lack of staff? Are teachers upset if a parent asks for testing and special Ed services bc they already feel like they are doing everything they can? If so, do we just send our kid to school and have no expectation that they learn anything in those two areas?
I am not being combative , I am a NP and agree the PP should not have said quit like everyone else. I am truly interested in a teachers point of view about this.