Curriculum Night Presentation: AIM still using C 2.0 and only some schools supplement it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our MS got around this by simply getting rid of AIM...
Our kid was in Compacted 5/6 in 5th and is now in AMP7+ in 6th. AMP6+ and AMP7+ are the only options for MS math for 6th at our school.

What school? At the presentation last night, they said MCPS won’t offer IM next year because of gaps in the curriculum but that AIM will continue to be offered because it has accelerated and enriched instruction. From what they said, it sounded like AIM should be offered in all schools.

Cabin John.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:? I thought they got rid of 2.0 after the JHU study?

The JHU study did not examine the high school curriculum, only elementary and middle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our MS got around this by simply getting rid of AIM...
Our kid was in Compacted 5/6 in 5th and is now in AMP7+ in 6th. AMP6+ and AMP7+ are the only options for MS math for 6th at our school.

What school? At the presentation last night, they said MCPS won’t offer IM next year because of gaps in the curriculum but that AIM will continue to be offered because it has accelerated and enriched instruction. From what they said, it sounded like AIM should be offered in all schools.

Great! MCPS advertised that AIM is created (along with HIGH) for 6th graders who did not get in magnet MS due to lottery. The reason is because there is a cohort of high-achieving students and we will put all of these students together and create a math class that is as good as that in TPMS/MLKJr MS. Yes, they get rid of testing and use lottery.

Now fast forward, MCPS will get rid of IM so all 6th graders are mixed together in AIM. How nice and considerate for MCPS to that cohort of high-achieving!

IM was never for 6th graders. It was for 7th graders. AIM is staying for 6th graders who are waitlisted at magnet. 6+ is for kids who are accelerated but aren't as advanced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:? I thought they got rid of 2.0 after the JHU study?

Not for all courses apparently. According to the presentation last night, the only middle school and high school classes that use illutrative mathematics are 6, 7, 8, 6+, 7+, and Algebra 1. All other classes, including AIM, use 2.0. But they said that there is widespread recognition (due to JHU study) that 2.0 isn't meeting needs, which is why some schools supplement AIM with some extra units from illustrative mathematics. But apparently central office doesn't know which schools are and aren't doing this, and they aren't providing schools with guidance on how to supplement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our MS got around this by simply getting rid of AIM...
Our kid was in Compacted 5/6 in 5th and is now in AMP7+ in 6th. AMP6+ and AMP7+ are the only options for MS math for 6th at our school.

What school? At the presentation last night, they said MCPS won’t offer IM next year because of gaps in the curriculum but that AIM will continue to be offered because it has accelerated and enriched instruction. From what they said, it sounded like AIM should be offered in all schools.

Cabin John.

You should get in touch with the MCCPTA Gifted Education Committee to see if they can help bring it back. It is supposed to be offered at all schools. Email is [e-mail].

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:? I thought they got rid of 2.0 after the JHU study?

Not for all courses apparently. According to the presentation last night, the only middle school and high school classes that use illutrative mathematics are 6, 7, 8, 6+, 7+, and Algebra 1. All other classes, including AIM, use 2.0. But they said that there is widespread recognition (due to JHU study) that 2.0 isn't meeting needs, which is why some schools supplement AIM with some extra units from illustrative mathematics. But apparently central office doesn't know which schools are and aren't doing this, and they aren't providing schools with guidance on how to supplement.

at the risk of sounding stupid, what is AIM math? Prealgebra?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:? I thought they got rid of 2.0 after the JHU study?

Not for all courses apparently. According to the presentation last night, the only middle school and high school classes that use illutrative mathematics are 6, 7, 8, 6+, 7+, and Algebra 1. All other classes, including AIM, use 2.0. But they said that there is widespread recognition (due to JHU study) that 2.0 isn't meeting needs, which is why some schools supplement AIM with some extra units from illustrative mathematics. But apparently central office doesn't know which schools are and aren't doing this, and they aren't providing schools with guidance on how to supplement.

at the risk of sounding stupid, what is AIM math? Prealgebra?

Yes, it's Pre-Algebra. It stands for Applied Investigations in Math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:? I thought they got rid of 2.0 after the JHU study?

Not for all courses apparently. According to the presentation last night, the only middle school and high school classes that use illutrative mathematics are 6, 7, 8, 6+, 7+, and Algebra 1. All other classes, including AIM, use 2.0. But they said that there is widespread recognition (due to JHU study) that 2.0 isn't meeting needs, which is why some schools supplement AIM with some extra units from illustrative mathematics. But apparently central office doesn't know which schools are and aren't doing this, and they aren't providing schools with guidance on how to supplement.

at the risk of sounding stupid, what is AIM math? Prealgebra?

Yes, it's Pre-Algebra. It stands for Applied Investigations in Math.

More specifically, it compresses math 7 and math 8 together. Interestingly, MCPS says they are getting rid of IM (offered to 7th graders) but not AIM (offered to 6th graders) because of the curriculum audit -- they can't remove it for 6th graders because that's an accelerated and enriched class for those who are waitlisted for magnets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:? I thought they got rid of 2.0 after the JHU study?

Not for all courses apparently. According to the presentation last night, the only middle school and high school classes that use illutrative mathematics are 6, 7, 8, 6+, 7+, and Algebra 1. All other classes, including AIM, use 2.0. But they said that there is widespread recognition (due to JHU study) that 2.0 isn't meeting needs, which is why some schools supplement AIM with some extra units from illustrative mathematics. But apparently central office doesn't know which schools are and aren't doing this, and they aren't providing schools with guidance on how to supplement.

at the risk of sounding stupid, what is AIM math? Prealgebra?

Yes, it's Pre-Algebra. It stands for Applied Investigations in Math.

More specifically, it compresses math 7 and math 8 together. Interestingly, MCPS says they are getting rid of IM (offered to 7th graders) but not AIM (offered to 6th graders) because of the curriculum audit -- they can't remove it for 6th graders because that's an accelerated and enriched class for those who are waitlisted for magnets.

Again, at least at Cabin John they did get rid of it. My son got a last minute spot at Takoma Park, which we declined, and he's in AMP7+. Technically they're covering the 2nd half of 7th grade and of 8th grade this year - it seems like they'll just never cover the first part of 7th grade, but he's having no difficulty in the class (also he's in RSM, so I'm not too worried about him missing some of the material). Also, there are 30+ kids in his math class and there's at least one other AMP7+ class (for 6th graders, presumably others for 7th graders?) so it's not like it's super selective...

[Anonymous]

* all of 8th grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our MS got around this by simply getting rid of AIM...
Our kid was in Compacted 5/6 in 5th and is now in AMP7+ in 6th. AMP6+ and AMP7+ are the only options for MS math for 6th at our school.

What school? At the presentation last night, they said MCPS won’t offer IM next year because of gaps in the curriculum but that AIM will continue to be offered because it has accelerated and enriched instruction. From what they said, it sounded like AIM should be offered in all schools.

Great! MCPS advertised that AIM is created (along with HIGH) for 6th graders who did not get in magnet MS due to lottery. The reason is because there is a cohort of high-achieving students and we will put all of these students together and create a math class that is as good as that in TPMS/MLKJr MS. Yes, they get rid of testing and use lottery.

Now fast forward, MCPS will get rid of IM so all 6th graders are mixed together in AIM. How nice and considerate for MCPS to that cohort of high-achieving!

IM was never for 6th graders. It was for 7th graders. AIM is staying for 6th graders who are waitlisted at magnet. 6+ is for kids who are accelerated but aren't as advanced.

Disagree!

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/stage/

IM is also for 6th graders on the advance track who took compact math 4/5 and 5/6 in elementary school . MCPS created AIM to those accelerated 6th graders who are out of magnet due to the lottery

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school had a new curriculum for AIM last year based on the illustrative mathematics lessons. There is a math content specialist, a.k.a. department head, at every school. Ask if you want to know.

Are you saying the entire AIM curriculum was with Illustrative Mathematics, or that there were some additional juniors of Illustrative Mathematics added in? The woman presenting for MCPS tonight was new and did not seem to know much. It could be that she is giving out wrong info. But she said 2.0 is still being used for AIM/IM, geometry, and all courses over geometry. Illustrative mathematics is only used for math 6, 6-+, 7, 7+, 8, and algebra I.

This is the PP who posted the comment - the entire AIM class last year in our MS was a selection of Illustrative Mathematics lessons from different books. We probably received 6 different workbooks over the year. When my older child had AIM 3 years ago, there was no book, all worksheets. So this was an entirely different curriculum. Algebra this year is also workbooks from Illustrative Mathematics, although the class seems to be progressing through the workbooks in a more logical fashion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school had a new curriculum for AIM last year based on the illustrative mathematics lessons. There is a math content specialist, a.k.a. department head, at every school. Ask if you want to know.

Are you saying the entire AIM curriculum was with Illustrative Mathematics, or that there were some additional juniors of Illustrative Mathematics added in? The woman presenting for MCPS tonight was new and did not seem to know much. It could be that she is giving out wrong info. But she said 2.0 is still being used for AIM/IM, geometry, and all courses over geometry. Illustrative mathematics is only used for math 6, 6-+, 7, 7+, 8, and algebra I.

This is the PP who posted the comment - the entire AIM class last year in our MS was a selection of Illustrative Mathematics lessons from different books. We probably received 6 different workbooks over the year. When my older child had AIM 3 years ago, there was no book, all worksheets. So this was an entirely different curriculum. Algebra this year is also workbooks from Illustrative Mathematics, although the class seems to be progressing through the workbooks in a more logical fashion.

It would not surprise me at all if the woman from central office (math supervisor) at curriculum night got it wrong. She did not inspire confidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our MS got around this by simply getting rid of AIM...
Our kid was in Compacted 5/6 in 5th and is now in AMP7+ in 6th. AMP6+ and AMP7+ are the only options for MS math for 6th at our school.

What school? At the presentation last night, they said MCPS won’t offer IM next year because of gaps in the curriculum but that AIM will continue to be offered because it has accelerated and enriched instruction. From what they said, it sounded like AIM should be offered in all schools.

Great! MCPS advertised that AIM is created (along with HIGH) for 6th graders who did not get in magnet MS due to lottery. The reason is because there is a cohort of high-achieving students and we will put all of these students together and create a math class that is as good as that in TPMS/MLKJr MS. Yes, they get rid of testing and use lottery.

Now fast forward, MCPS will get rid of IM so all 6th graders are mixed together in AIM. How nice and considerate for MCPS to that cohort of high-achieving!

IM was never for 6th graders. It was for 7th graders. AIM is staying for 6th graders who are waitlisted at magnet. 6+ is for kids who are accelerated but aren't as advanced.

Disagree!

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/stage/

IM is also for 6th graders on the advance track who took compact math 4/5 and 5/6 in elementary school . MCPS created AIM to those accelerated 6th graders who are out of magnet due to the lottery

Is AIM at Pyle or Westland Ms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our MS got around this by simply getting rid of AIM...
Our kid was in Compacted 5/6 in 5th and is now in AMP7+ in 6th. AMP6+ and AMP7+ are the only options for MS math for 6th at our school.

What school? At the presentation last night, they said MCPS won’t offer IM next year because of gaps in the curriculum but that AIM will continue to be offered because it has accelerated and enriched instruction. From what they said, it sounded like AIM should be offered in all schools.

Great! MCPS advertised that AIM is created (along with HIGH) for 6th graders who did not get in magnet MS due to lottery. The reason is because there is a cohort of high-achieving students and we will put all of these students together and create a math class that is as good as that in TPMS/MLKJr MS. Yes, they get rid of testing and use lottery.

Now fast forward, MCPS will get rid of IM so all 6th graders are mixed together in AIM. How nice and considerate for MCPS to that cohort of high-achieving!

IM was never for 6th graders. It was for 7th graders. AIM is staying for 6th graders who are waitlisted at magnet. 6+ is for kids who are accelerated but aren't as advanced.

Disagree!

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/stage/

IM is also for 6th graders on the advance track who took compact math 4/5 and 5/6 in elementary school . MCPS created AIM to those accelerated 6th graders who are out of magnet due to the lottery

Is AIM at Pyle or Westland Ms?

It’s at Silver Creek so should be at Westland too.