Help with 3rd Grade Multiplication and Division

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Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

Weird my 6th grader just scored in the 270s on their MAP-M earlier this year, but I made sure my kids were doing their work during the pandemic so they didn't fall behind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

Weird my 6th grader just scored in the 270s on their MAP-M earlier this year, but I made sure my kids were doing their work during the pandemic so they didn't fall behind.

Your 6th grader is failing in another area you don't know about yet, so be kind to yourself and celebrate this success while you can, PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

Weird my 6th grader just scored in the 270s on their MAP-M earlier this year, but I made sure my kids were doing their work during the pandemic so they didn't fall behind.

Your 6th grader is failing in another area you don't know about yet, so be kind to yourself and celebrate this success while you can, PP.

I mean he has to overcome living his childhood with a braggy, condescending mom who actually assumes her kid’s score is higher than my kid’s (it’s not). So there’s that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

Weird my 6th grader just scored in the 270s on their MAP-M earlier this year, but I made sure my kids were doing their work during the pandemic so they didn't fall behind.

Your 6th grader is failing in another area you don't know about yet, so be kind to yourself and celebrate this success while you can, PP.

I mean he has to overcome living his childhood with a braggy, condescending mom who actually assumes her kid’s score is higher than my kid’s (it’s not). So there’s that.

Or at least a mom who cared enough to make sure their kids went to school during the pandemic as opposed to the many who ignored their kids and complained about the lack of free daycare.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

Weird my 6th grader just scored in the 270s on their MAP-M earlier this year, but I made sure my kids were doing their work during the pandemic so they didn't fall behind.

Your 6th grader is failing in another area you don't know about yet, so be kind to yourself and celebrate this success while you can, PP.

I mean he has to overcome living his childhood with a braggy, condescending mom who actually assumes her kid’s score is higher than my kid’s (it’s not). So there’s that.

Or at least a mom who cared enough to make sure their kids went to school during the pandemic as opposed to the many who ignored their kids and complained about the lack of free daycare.

Huh? Everybody made sure their kids “went to school” during the pandemic. Some of us even had kids who didn’t need parental support to do so. Why are you bragging about this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

Weird my 6th grader just scored in the 270s on their MAP-M earlier this year, but I made sure my kids were doing their work during the pandemic so they didn't fall behind.

Your 6th grader is failing in another area you don't know about yet, so be kind to yourself and celebrate this success while you can, PP.

I mean he has to overcome living his childhood with a braggy, condescending mom who actually assumes her kid’s score is higher than my kid’s (it’s not). So there’s that.

Or at least a mom who cared enough to make sure their kids went to school during the pandemic as opposed to the many who ignored their kids and complained about the lack of free daycare.

Huh? Everybody made sure their kids “went to school” during the pandemic. Some of us even had kids who didn’t need parental support to do so. Why are you bragging about this?

That's not true at all. I remember one poster here complaining that school closure interfered with their pilates class and was super inconvenient. Both of my kids even told me about classmates iwho instead of paying attention were even able to play games like Roblox all day long since their parents were MIA. One of the parents even complained to me how their child had fallen behind in math which made me laugh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

At least get your facts straight before posting so matter of factly. No, MCPS didn’t switch to Eureka because they had videos online. The majority of schools made the switch before the pandemic. Only a handful switched after the pandemic and that is because they were going to in the fall anyway. Stop blaming everyone else for the fact your kid is behind. They were likely behind pre-pandemic, you just didn’t have anyone to conveniently blame it on like you do now. Parents in this county love to blame everyone but themselves for their shortcomings. I speak as a parent who sees it in every activity my kid is involved in. Parents simply don’t do their jobs. Time to take some responsibility. I know it’s super easy to blame teachers but look in the mirror. This is on you too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

At least get your facts straight before posting so matter of factly. No, MCPS didn’t switch to Eureka because they had videos online. The majority of schools made the switch before the pandemic. Only a handful switched after the pandemic and that is because they were going to in the fall anyway. Stop blaming everyone else for the fact your kid is behind. They were likely behind pre-pandemic, you just didn’t have anyone to conveniently blame it on like you do now. Parents in this county love to blame everyone but themselves for their shortcomings. I speak as a parent who sees it in every activity my kid is involved in. Parents simply don’t do their jobs. Time to take some responsibility. I know it’s super easy to blame teachers but look in the mirror. This is on you too.

? My kid is not behind and never was. Why do you keep insisting this? I was not one of the “open schools” people and my own children did not experience any issues with virtual. And I didn’t blame individual teachers. I said the teachers union advocated for priorities that benefited teachers, which is their job of course, but those priorities were in direct opposition of prioritizing students. I do not think it is the responsibility of parents to teach omitted curriculum if the school system just decides not to teach it. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t do what I needed to do for my own child, but for a public school system that is supposed to educate all students, it is ridiculously inequitable to expect parents to become educators if the school omits large chunks of the curriculum. And for the record, Eureka was being piloted in some schools. Certainly not most so check your own facts. Yes they were going to switch in the fall anyway, but they accelerated the switch in March 2020 for the non pilot schools because of the virtual Eureka content. So the mcps teachers weren’t responsible for making their own videos. Truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

At least get your facts straight before posting so matter of factly. No, MCPS didn’t switch to Eureka because they had videos online. The majority of schools made the switch before the pandemic. Only a handful switched after the pandemic and that is because they were going to in the fall anyway. Stop blaming everyone else for the fact your kid is behind. They were likely behind pre-pandemic, you just didn’t have anyone to conveniently blame it on like you do now. Parents in this county love to blame everyone but themselves for their shortcomings. I speak as a parent who sees it in every activity my kid is involved in. Parents simply don’t do their jobs. Time to take some responsibility. I know it’s super easy to blame teachers but look in the mirror. This is on you too.

? My kid is not behind and never was. Why do you keep insisting this? I was not one of the “open schools” people and my own children did not experience any issues with virtual. And I didn’t blame individual teachers. I said the teachers union advocated for priorities that benefited teachers, which is their job of course, but those priorities were in direct opposition of prioritizing students. I do not think it is the responsibility of parents to teach omitted curriculum if the school system just decides not to teach it. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t do what I needed to do for my own child, but for a public school system that is supposed to educate all students, it is ridiculously inequitable to expect parents to become educators if the school omits large chunks of the curriculum. And for the record, Eureka was being piloted in some schools. Certainly not most so check your own facts. Yes they were going to switch in the fall anyway, but they accelerated the switch in March 2020 for the non pilot schools because of the virtual Eureka content. So the mcps teachers weren’t responsible for making their own videos. Truth.

They covered this missing curriculum at our school. I think it was skipped mostly for places where the kids were checked out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

At least get your facts straight before posting so matter of factly. No, MCPS didn’t switch to Eureka because they had videos online. The majority of schools made the switch before the pandemic. Only a handful switched after the pandemic and that is because they were going to in the fall anyway. Stop blaming everyone else for the fact your kid is behind. They were likely behind pre-pandemic, you just didn’t have anyone to conveniently blame it on like you do now. Parents in this county love to blame everyone but themselves for their shortcomings. I speak as a parent who sees it in every activity my kid is involved in. Parents simply don’t do their jobs. Time to take some responsibility. I know it’s super easy to blame teachers but look in the mirror. This is on you too.

? My kid is not behind and never was. Why do you keep insisting this? I was not one of the “open schools” people and my own children did not experience any issues with virtual. And I didn’t blame individual teachers. I said the teachers union advocated for priorities that benefited teachers, which is their job of course, but those priorities were in direct opposition of prioritizing students. I do not think it is the responsibility of parents to teach omitted curriculum if the school system just decides not to teach it. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t do what I needed to do for my own child, but for a public school system that is supposed to educate all students, it is ridiculously inequitable to expect parents to become educators if the school omits large chunks of the curriculum. And for the record, Eureka was being piloted in some schools. Certainly not most so check your own facts. Yes they were going to switch in the fall anyway, but they accelerated the switch in March 2020 for the non pilot schools because of the virtual Eureka content. So the mcps teachers weren’t responsible for making their own videos. Truth.

*Sigh* not true. Most teachers taught the lessons virtually; the videos were for kids who couldnt sign on. Most schools already had Eureka. You are just wrong, but continue to pretend, as a parent, you know about how the entire district works. You're expected to be a parent whether theres a pandemic or not- a fact most parents seem to have forgotten. Your post is laden with micro-aggressions. "Chunks: of elementary curriculum were not omitted. Schools that didn't use Eureka weren't ahead- they were behind actually. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about, but I'll applaud your attempts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

At least get your facts straight before posting so matter of factly. No, MCPS didn’t switch to Eureka because they had videos online. The majority of schools made the switch before the pandemic. Only a handful switched after the pandemic and that is because they were going to in the fall anyway. Stop blaming everyone else for the fact your kid is behind. They were likely behind pre-pandemic, you just didn’t have anyone to conveniently blame it on like you do now. Parents in this county love to blame everyone but themselves for their shortcomings. I speak as a parent who sees it in every activity my kid is involved in. Parents simply don’t do their jobs. Time to take some responsibility. I know it’s super easy to blame teachers but look in the mirror. This is on you too.

? My kid is not behind and never was. Why do you keep insisting this? I was not one of the “open schools” people and my own children did not experience any issues with virtual. And I didn’t blame individual teachers. I said the teachers union advocated for priorities that benefited teachers, which is their job of course, but those priorities were in direct opposition of prioritizing students. I do not think it is the responsibility of parents to teach omitted curriculum if the school system just decides not to teach it. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t do what I needed to do for my own child, but for a public school system that is supposed to educate all students, it is ridiculously inequitable to expect parents to become educators if the school omits large chunks of the curriculum. And for the record, Eureka was being piloted in some schools. Certainly not most so check your own facts. Yes they were going to switch in the fall anyway, but they accelerated the switch in March 2020 for the non pilot schools because of the virtual Eureka content. So the mcps teachers weren’t responsible for making their own videos. Truth.

*Sigh* not true. Most teachers taught the lessons virtually; the videos were for kids who couldnt sign on. Most schools already had Eureka. You are just wrong, but continue to pretend, as a parent, you know about how the entire district works. You're expected to be a parent whether theres a pandemic or not- a fact most parents seem to have forgotten. Your post is laden with micro-aggressions. "Chunks: of elementary curriculum were not omitted. Schools that didn't use Eureka weren't ahead- they were behind actually. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about, but I'll applaud your attempts.

I literally don’t even know why I keep engaging with this troll but this was absolutely not true at our school. I obviously can’t speak to what was taught at other schools. At our school, the teachers assigned a Eureka lesson each day to be completed asynchronously. The video with a non mcps teacher was to be watched and worksheet completed independently and submitted to the teacher, who did not grade it because there were not grades for ES students in spring 2020. The next morning the teacher would conduct a short live zoom that at times went over the answers, but more commonly included a lot of social emotional homeroom types of activities, read alouds, kahoots, etc. Minimal direct instruction and the zoom was only about 30 minutes a day in the morning. No one was conducting 7 hr zooms. The videos were not for kids who couldn’t sign on — they were for all students. At our school, the majority of kids could and did sign on, but not all.

I can’t even believe you would accuse me of micro aggressions in my post. Your premise is entirely based upon all kinds of assumptions and terrible thoughts about other parents and schools who were “behind” or who didn’t take care of their kids and is rife with baseless claims and accusations.

Finally, here is a link to an article about certain types of omitted content:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/montgomery-county-families-question-omitted-content-from-virtual-curriculum.amp
It is in response to a system wide quick notes email MCPS sent on 4/21/21 with links to documents outlining all of the omitted/condensed topics they did not cover. Spoiler: it was a lot of topics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

At least get your facts straight before posting so matter of factly. No, MCPS didn’t switch to Eureka because they had videos online. The majority of schools made the switch before the pandemic. Only a handful switched after the pandemic and that is because they were going to in the fall anyway. Stop blaming everyone else for the fact your kid is behind. They were likely behind pre-pandemic, you just didn’t have anyone to conveniently blame it on like you do now. Parents in this county love to blame everyone but themselves for their shortcomings. I speak as a parent who sees it in every activity my kid is involved in. Parents simply don’t do their jobs. Time to take some responsibility. I know it’s super easy to blame teachers but look in the mirror. This is on you too.

? My kid is not behind and never was. Why do you keep insisting this? I was not one of the “open schools” people and my own children did not experience any issues with virtual. And I didn’t blame individual teachers. I said the teachers union advocated for priorities that benefited teachers, which is their job of course, but those priorities were in direct opposition of prioritizing students. I do not think it is the responsibility of parents to teach omitted curriculum if the school system just decides not to teach it. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t do what I needed to do for my own child, but for a public school system that is supposed to educate all students, it is ridiculously inequitable to expect parents to become educators if the school omits large chunks of the curriculum. And for the record, Eureka was being piloted in some schools. Certainly not most so check your own facts. Yes they were going to switch in the fall anyway, but they accelerated the switch in March 2020 for the non pilot schools because of the virtual Eureka content. So the mcps teachers weren’t responsible for making their own videos. Truth.

*Sigh* not true. Most teachers taught the lessons virtually; the videos were for kids who couldnt sign on. Most schools already had Eureka. You are just wrong, but continue to pretend, as a parent, you know about how the entire district works. You're expected to be a parent whether theres a pandemic or not- a fact most parents seem to have forgotten. Your post is laden with micro-aggressions. "Chunks: of elementary curriculum were not omitted. Schools that didn't use Eureka weren't ahead- they were behind actually. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about, but I'll applaud your attempts.

I literally don’t even know why I keep engaging with this troll but this was absolutely not true at our school. I obviously can’t speak to what was taught at other schools. At our school, the teachers assigned a Eureka lesson each day to be completed asynchronously. The video with a non mcps teacher was to be watched and worksheet completed independently and submitted to the teacher, who did not grade it because there were not grades for ES students in spring 2020. The next morning the teacher would conduct a short live zoom that at times went over the answers, but more commonly included a lot of social emotional homeroom types of activities, read alouds, kahoots, etc. Minimal direct instruction and the zoom was only about 30 minutes a day in the morning. No one was conducting 7 hr zooms. The videos were not for kids who couldn’t sign on — they were for all students. At our school, the majority of kids could and did sign on, but not all.

I can’t even believe you would accuse me of micro aggressions in my post. Your premise is entirely based upon all kinds of assumptions and terrible thoughts about other parents and schools who were “behind” or who didn’t take care of their kids and is rife with baseless claims and accusations.

Finally, here is a link to an article about certain types of omitted content:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/montgomery-county-families-question-omitted-content-from-virtual-curriculum.amp
It is in response to a system wide quick notes email MCPS sent on 4/21/21 with links to documents outlining all of the omitted/condensed topics they did not cover. Spoiler: it was a lot of topics.

DP- you keep insisting you’re right about why Eureka was chosen for virtual. You’re just wrong. Deal with it. Also, you just proved their point with that article…
“ "When I was looking at math curriculum and saw that the first graders didn’t get the difference between a penny, a nickel, a dime and a quarter and didn’t learn how to tell time on the hour and a half hour, that really struck me because those are basic life skills," said MCPS parent, Jessica Hasson.”

Yeah… things parent could easily teach their kids and should have been doing all along. It’s just embarrassing the level of work other parents won’t put in but use an excuse for their kids being behind. Do. Your. Job.

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And furthermore, if what you are saying is actually true, that teachers all taught the omitted content and you didn’t need to fill in gaps or anything for your child, who was at a school that was not “behind,” whatever that means, then why are you taking so much credit for this and trying to accuse everyone else of laziness? Worry about yourself!

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Anonymous wrote:Also, wanted to share that as a MS teacher, our school has students working on 3rd grade math skills in IXL because they came up as deficits in MAP tests but the geometry teacher “don’t have time to go back and teach those skills”. So it sounds like the issue might be with the 3rd grade curriculum.

This year’s 6th graders were 3rd graders when schools closed in March 2020. MCPS switched their curriculum to Eureka when schools went virtual because there were Eureka videos online. Unfortunately the order of topics didn’t overlap properly with the previous 3rd grade curriculum, so they were taught the 3rd grade math lessons they had already covered in Jan/Feb and didn’t learn what they were supposed to cover for March-June. Then 4th grade was the mostly virtual year and MCPS omitted/condensed a ton of lessons (including all of geometry) because you couldn’t cover everything if there was no teaching on Wednesdays, which I personally can’t believe was allowed to go on the entire year. The idea is that those concepts would be covered in future years. Like in middle school. But they obviously did not communicate to teachers of higher grade levels what these kids missed. I’m sorry teachers that you are having to clean up the mess MCPS created. But your union advocated to keep schools closed and to give teachers tons of planning time at the expense of instructional time on Wednesdays. The only people who are innocent in this outcome are the kids. Thank you for giving them grace and realizing if they haven’t been exposed to these concepts it is not their fault.

At least get your facts straight before posting so matter of factly. No, MCPS didn’t switch to Eureka because they had videos online. The majority of schools made the switch before the pandemic. Only a handful switched after the pandemic and that is because they were going to in the fall anyway. Stop blaming everyone else for the fact your kid is behind. They were likely behind pre-pandemic, you just didn’t have anyone to conveniently blame it on like you do now. Parents in this county love to blame everyone but themselves for their shortcomings. I speak as a parent who sees it in every activity my kid is involved in. Parents simply don’t do their jobs. Time to take some responsibility. I know it’s super easy to blame teachers but look in the mirror. This is on you too.

? My kid is not behind and never was. Why do you keep insisting this? I was not one of the “open schools” people and my own children did not experience any issues with virtual. And I didn’t blame individual teachers. I said the teachers union advocated for priorities that benefited teachers, which is their job of course, but those priorities were in direct opposition of prioritizing students. I do not think it is the responsibility of parents to teach omitted curriculum if the school system just decides not to teach it. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t do what I needed to do for my own child, but for a public school system that is supposed to educate all students, it is ridiculously inequitable to expect parents to become educators if the school omits large chunks of the curriculum. And for the record, Eureka was being piloted in some schools. Certainly not most so check your own facts. Yes they were going to switch in the fall anyway, but they accelerated the switch in March 2020 for the non pilot schools because of the virtual Eureka content. So the mcps teachers weren’t responsible for making their own videos. Truth.

*Sigh* not true. Most teachers taught the lessons virtually; the videos were for kids who couldnt sign on. Most schools already had Eureka. You are just wrong, but continue to pretend, as a parent, you know about how the entire district works. You're expected to be a parent whether theres a pandemic or not- a fact most parents seem to have forgotten. Your post is laden with micro-aggressions. "Chunks: of elementary curriculum were not omitted. Schools that didn't use Eureka weren't ahead- they were behind actually. You seem to have no idea what you're talking about, but I'll applaud your attempts.

I literally don’t even know why I keep engaging with this troll but this was absolutely not true at our school. I obviously can’t speak to what was taught at other schools. At our school, the teachers assigned a Eureka lesson each day to be completed asynchronously. The video with a non mcps teacher was to be watched and worksheet completed independently and submitted to the teacher, who did not grade it because there were not grades for ES students in spring 2020. The next morning the teacher would conduct a short live zoom that at times went over the answers, but more commonly included a lot of social emotional homeroom types of activities, read alouds, kahoots, etc. Minimal direct instruction and the zoom was only about 30 minutes a day in the morning. No one was conducting 7 hr zooms. The videos were not for kids who couldn’t sign on — they were for all students. At our school, the majority of kids could and did sign on, but not all.

I can’t even believe you would accuse me of micro aggressions in my post. Your premise is entirely based upon all kinds of assumptions and terrible thoughts about other parents and schools who were “behind” or who didn’t take care of their kids and is rife with baseless claims and accusations.

Finally, here is a link to an article about certain types of omitted content:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/montgomery-county-families-question-omitted-content-from-virtual-curriculum.amp
It is in response to a system wide quick notes email MCPS sent on 4/21/21 with links to documents outlining all of the omitted/condensed topics they did not cover. Spoiler: it was a lot of topics.

DP- you keep insisting you’re right about why Eureka was chosen for virtual. You’re just wrong. Deal with it. Also, you just proved their point with that article…
“ "When I was looking at math curriculum and saw that the first graders didn’t get the difference between a penny, a nickel, a dime and a quarter and didn’t learn how to tell time on the hour and a half hour, that really struck me because those are basic life skills," said MCPS parent, Jessica Hasson.”

Yeah… things parent could easily teach their kids and should have been doing all along. It’s just embarrassing the level of work other parents won’t put in but use an excuse for their kids being behind. Do. Your. Job.

The issue many people had with MCPS was that this report was sent out in April 2021! If MCPS made the decision to omit this much content in September, which they did decide, at least tell people A) that you plan to skip stuff and B) what you skipped! How am I supposed to know what *wasnt* taught so I can “do my job” as you say? I’m not a mind reader.