MAP-R Score 240 - What's next?

[Anonymous]

It looks to me that the kids who are doing very well in reading are the ones whose parents enjoy books themselves and discuss characters, plots, and details with the kids. I am from a non-English speaking country, but my American husband said his mom bought him a bunch of books when he was a child. Although he read quite a bit of books, he did not understand them very well. I am thinking of hiring a book-worm tutor who can help my kid appreciate and understand books. I think that might make a difference, as opposed to nagging a kid to read a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check the newberry lists, the NYPl best children’s lists, and look at curated book stores like word of wonder in NY for suggestions and then just put those books on hold at Public library or order them. Also search this website for suggestions—there have been some great threads on books recommended for middle grade boys.
If he’s only reading 40 minutes a day, he isn’t a natural book work so focus on finding stuff he’ll love reading rather than shoving Jules Verne at him.
But I am a big fan of British kids lit and classic kids lit.

NP here. Would you mind sharing some of your favorite British kids lit and class kids lit recommendations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My fourth grader got 240 for MAP-R. When he bumped into a Reading Specialist at his school, he mentioned the score to her (because he just finished it). She said, "What's next?" and said he should try to read challenging books because the book he is reading (Wings of Fire) would be too easy for him and he needs to be challenged. I think she was not too serious, but it made me wonder what other advanced learners are doing to get better with reading comprehension. I know many kids do mathnasium, RSM, and AoPS for math. But for reading, does anybody do anything other than just reading more fiction books that are lexile 800L-950L (even though the score corresponds to lexile 1375L-1525L)? Maybe a book club?

240 is not an extraordinary score in 4th grade as a lot of kids score much more at CES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My fourth grader got 240 for MAP-R. When he bumped into a Reading Specialist at his school, he mentioned the score to her (because he just finished it). She said, "What's next?" and said he should try to read challenging books because the book he is reading (Wings of Fire) would be too easy for him and he needs to be challenged. I think she was not too serious, but it made me wonder what other advanced learners are doing to get better with reading comprehension. I know many kids do mathnasium, RSM, and AoPS for math. But for reading, does anybody do anything other than just reading more fiction books that are lexile 800L-950L (even though the score corresponds to lexile 1375L-1525L)? Maybe a book club?

240 is not an extraordinary score in 4th grade as a lot of kids score much more at CES.

Provide interesting books rather than complexity. If you are still on Fiction, slowly introduce Non-Fiction, current events as Kids will feel it very dry to read and comprehend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Check the newberry lists, the NYPl best children’s lists, and look at curated book stores like word of wonder in NY for suggestions and then just put those books on hold at Public library or order them. Also search this website for suggestions—there have been some great threads on books recommended for middle grade boys.
If he’s only reading 40 minutes a day, he isn’t a natural book work so focus on finding stuff he’ll love reading rather than shoving Jules Verne at him.
But I am a big fan of British kids lit and classic kids lit.

NP here. Would you mind sharing some of your favorite British kids lit and class kids lit recommendations?

The original Paddington series.
The original mary poppin series by travers.
I like the secret garden and little princess but there are a lot of colonialist themes in there so you need to work through those
E. Nesbit fantasy books (5 children and it and the sequels)
Tolkien, obviously.
Lloyd Alexander prydain series
I also like Peter Pan just as a piece of writing but the themes are rather problematic in a bunch of ways so I don’t give it a whole hearted recommendation
Alice in wonderland and through the looking glass

I’ll try to think of more!

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We had Battle of the Books when I was a kid. Is that still a thing?

[Anonymous]

what is the highest possible score for map-r?
I remember seeing somewhere that 250 is a top score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Check the newberry lists, the NYPl best children’s lists, and look at curated book stores like word of wonder in NY for suggestions and then just put those books on hold at Public library or order them. Also search this website for suggestions—there have been some great threads on books recommended for middle grade boys.
If he’s only reading 40 minutes a day, he isn’t a natural book work so focus on finding stuff he’ll love reading rather than shoving Jules Verne at him.
But I am a big fan of British kids lit and classic kids lit.

NP here. Would you mind sharing some of your favorite British kids lit and class kids lit recommendations?

The original Paddington series.
The original mary poppin series by travers.
I like the secret garden and little princess but there are a lot of colonialist themes in there so you need to work through those
E. Nesbit fantasy books (5 children and it and the sequels)
Tolkien, obviously.
Lloyd Alexander prydain series
I also like Peter Pan just as a piece of writing but the themes are rather problematic in a bunch of ways so I don’t give it a whole hearted recommendation
Alice in wonderland and through the looking glass

I’ll try to think of more!

Swallows and Amazons series

More for girls: Chalet School series

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My fourth grader got 240 for MAP-R. When he bumped into a Reading Specialist at his school, he mentioned the score to her (because he just finished it). She said, "What's next?" and said he should try to read challenging books because the book he is reading (Wings of Fire) would be too easy for him and he needs to be challenged. I think she was not too serious, but it made me wonder what other advanced learners are doing to get better with reading comprehension. I know many kids do mathnasium, RSM, and AoPS for math. But for reading, does anybody do anything other than just reading more fiction books that are lexile 800L-950L (even though the score corresponds to lexile 1375L-1525L)? Maybe a book club?

240 is not an extraordinary score in 4th grade as a lot of kids score much more at CES.

This is simply not true.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let you fourth grader read the books he enjoys. Not everything has to be a challenge.

This is OP. That’s true. But He asks for a challenge saying he feels the reading class at school is easy and doesn’t feel he is learning much.

There is a difference between challenging reading levels and "learning much." Wanting to learn more makes me think he should read more non-fiction or historical fiction. Wanting to read something challenging makes me think of all the boring books they made us read in high school. Does a 4th grader really want to read Of Mice and Men and the Great Gatsby?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what is the highest possible score for map-r?
I remember seeing somewhere that 250 is a top score.

Theoretically, the score can be 300. Some kids in the magnet program score close to that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Check the newberry lists, the NYPl best children’s lists, and look at curated book stores like word of wonder in NY for suggestions and then just put those books on hold at Public library or order them. Also search this website for suggestions—there have been some great threads on books recommended for middle grade boys.
If he’s only reading 40 minutes a day, he isn’t a natural book work so focus on finding stuff he’ll love reading rather than shoving Jules Verne at him.
But I am a big fan of British kids lit and classic kids lit.

NP here. Would you mind sharing some of your favorite British kids lit and class kids lit recommendations?

The original Paddington series.
The original mary poppin series by travers.
I like the secret garden and little princess but there are a lot of colonialist themes in there so you need to work through those
E. Nesbit fantasy books (5 children and it and the sequels)
Tolkien, obviously.
Lloyd Alexander prydain series
I also like Peter Pan just as a piece of writing but the themes are rather problematic in a bunch of ways so I don’t give it a whole hearted recommendation
Alice in wonderland and through the looking glass

I’ll try to think of more!

Swallows and Amazons series

More for girls: Chalet School series

Thank you! These are great suggestions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is the highest possible score for map-r?
I remember seeing somewhere that 250 is a top score.

Theoretically, the score can be 300. Some kids in the magnet program score close to that.

NWEA says scores are valid up to 350, but no one really ever scores that high. Kids will break 300 on MAP-R, but it’s pretty unheard of on MAP-R.

[Anonymous]

OP-The best thing you can do is to continue to encourage reading and let them read what they want. Sure you can make recommendations when asked or when they finish a book/series suggest new genres or new authors. But reading outside of school should be enjoyable

At this age it’s about developing reading stamina and vocabulary. Just asking them open ended questions about what their reading will show you engaging and helping with comprehension and critical thinking. They have plenty of time for Beowulf, Take if Two Cities, and Dante’s Inferno.

If you really must work on something let it be root words and affixed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP-The best thing you can do is to continue to encourage reading and let them read what they want. Sure you can make recommendations when asked or when they finish a book/series suggest new genres or new authors. But reading outside of school should be enjoyable

At this age it’s about developing reading stamina and vocabulary. Just asking them open ended questions about what their reading will show you engaging and helping with comprehension and critical thinking. They have plenty of time for Beowulf, Take if Two Cities, and Dante’s Inferno.

If you really must work on something let it be root words and affixed.

Yes this! My kid has really high MAP scores and we just tell her we are so glad she loves to read and that it’s fun to share that interest with her (I’m a huge reader too!) my younger child doesn’t seem to be as advanced with reading (though time will tell) and we do the same for him. All reading is good reading unless it’s inappropriate or scary!