MAGA soldier in Army to become 'more proficient in killing' Black

[Anonymous]

But it attracts a higher proportion of conservative people (who believe in "traditional" values, including outdated gender roles) than the general population. Check out the Air Force Academy's culture:

https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/air_force_cadets...ious_harassment_on_yahoo_news/

And the Air Force is considered the more "evolved" of the service branches.

(I say this as someone who has worked for DoD for decades.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Other military officers surely knew of his character but did nothing about it.

"Other?" This guy was not an officer.
Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

Surely he was supervised by officers.

Of course, but PP's use/placement of the word "others" indicates that she was calling THIS guy an officer.
Like many we have seen on DCUM, she just wants to throw random military words/terms around ("enlist" "dishonorable discharge" etc.) with ignorance--using them in incorrect ways.

Seems like you just want to deflect from the real issue. The military is filled with these people, they are not loyal to the constitution, the country, the service or other who serve. Sound like you are one of them.

The military is more diverse than the general population and has LONG had higher rates of interracial marriage than the general population. It doesnt really follow that the military is "full" of white supremacists. In fact, one of the reasons that the military has been an attractive career for educated black people is because it is more egalitarian and less discriminatory than the civilian world.

Please it was forced on the military. I was an office in the Army in the ‘90’s. The opinions openly expressed by fellow officers and even 05 and 06 levels were eye opening. They looked after their own kind. The Navy is still lilly white and it is not by accident. What we have now is enlisted personnel in combat units forming their own units of like minded individuals. I can not see how this would not effect unit cohesion

[Anonymous]

Interesting article

White Officers: Maybe Oblivious But Not Innocent

..To even have the opportunity to be my friend he had to overcome the incredible odds of life as a young black man. He had to navigate his way through a Navy rife with unconscious bias that denied him the wider margins of error and smoother career progression his white contemporaries enjoyed. He had to bear the burden of the black naval officer that Commander Marcus Canady and Lieutenant Commander Desmond Walker wrote about in their recent respective Proceedings articles, “Racial Tensions in America Requires Intrusive Leadership” and “The Burden of a Black Naval Officer.” A burden that involves the “exhaustive mental drain of cumulative questioning,” the weight of being labeled as an example of either “black excellence or black incompetence,” and the need to wear an invisible mask at work that “hides the part that is hurting, tired, and frustrated.”

… If the Navy’s long-held insistence on being colorblind is the best way to address systemic racism, why over the course of an average career do black naval officers lose rank and positions of power while their white colleagues gain and improve on already substantial positions? Why, after more than 20 years in the Navy, do I continually find myself in rooms of power full of white naval officers? Why, after more than 70 years since President Truman desegregated the military, does the Navy still celebrate with great fanfare, while failing to hide the obvious hints of tokenism, the promotions of black naval officers to senior positions? Why are there currently no black naval officers above the rank of two-star? Why, if diversity and inclusivity are important, has the Navy failed to conduct a rigorous analysis of how it recruits, retains, and promotes black officers? Why did two Chiefs of Naval Operation—50 years apart—send roughly the same message to the fleet admitting the presence of racism and a desire to do something about it? And, ultimately, why, if everybody is innocent and nobody thinks they are racist, does the Navy keep getting racist outcomes?

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2020/july/white-officers-maybe-oblivious-not-innocent

Wow …www.usni.org….guess everything is no a okay.

[Anonymous]

For Stephanie Davis, who grew up with little, the military was a path to the American dream, a realm where everyone would receive equal treatment. She joined the service in 1988 after finishing high school in Thomasville, Georgia, a small town said to be named for a soldier who fought in the War of 1812.

Over the course of decades, she steadily advanced, becoming a flight surgeon, commander of flight medicine at Fairchild Air Force Base and, eventually, a lieutenant colonel.

But many of her service colleagues, Davis says, saw her only as a Black woman. Or for the white resident colleagues who gave her the call sign of ABW – it was a joke, they insisted – an “angry black woman,” a classic racist trope.

White subordinates often refused to salute her or seemed uncomfortable taking orders from her, she says. Some patients refused to call her by her proper rank or even acknowledge her. She was attacked with racial slurs. And during her residency, she was the sole Black resident in a program

https://apnews.com/article/us-military-racism-discrimination-4e840e0acc7ef07fd635a312d9375413

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other military officers surely knew of his character but did nothing about it.

"Other?" This guy was not an officer.
Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

Surely he was supervised by officers.

Of course, but PP's use/placement of the word "others" indicates that she was calling THIS guy an officer.
Like many we have seen on DCUM, she just wants to throw random military words/terms around ("enlist" "dishonorable discharge" etc.) with ignorance--using them in incorrect ways.

Pedantic drivel

[Anonymous]

The U.S. military fights racism the same way it fights wars. There are platoons of PowerPoint planning, battalions of buzzwords, and squads of staff officers. The military created and deployed the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute to the fight nearly 50 years ago. But, just like in Afghanistan, victory against racism in the ranks remains a distant dream.

In a military that is 43% racial and ethnic minorities, why did it take until 2020 for there to be a Black officer confirmed to head a military service? On August 6, Air Force General Charles Brown Jr. will become the first. Why, in an active duty military made up of 1.3 million men and women, are only two of its 41 four-star officers—the highest rank—Black?
The U.S. military fights racism the same way it fights wars. But, just like in Afghanistan, victory against racism in the ranks remains a distant dream.
As someone who has covered the military for more than 40 years, I know that things are a lot better than they used to be. But racial animus remains salted through the U.S. military. More than a third of active duty troops—and most racial minorities in uniform—said in a Military Times survey last year that they have witnessed racism in the ranks. It’s like a constant white noise, ranging from racist talk and discrimination, to the exchange of Nazi-style salutes, to swastikas and Ku Klux Klan decals affixed to troops’ cars.

It indicated things don’t seem to be improving: Those saying they have witnessed racism jumped from 22% in 2018 to 36% in 2019. Respondents said they see white nationalism as a greater national security threat than either Islamic-linked domestic terrorism or immigration.

https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2020/07/racism-in-the-ranks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But it attracts a higher proportion of conservative people (who believe in "traditional" values, including outdated gender roles) than the general population. Check out the Air Force Academy's culture:

https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/air_force_cadets...ious_harassment_on_yahoo_news/

And the Air Force is considered the more "evolved" of the service branches.

(I say this as someone who has worked for DoD for decades.)

The USAF is infested with evangelical nativists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other military officers surely knew of his character but did nothing about it.

"Other?" This guy was not an officer.
Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

Surely he was supervised by officers.

Of course, but PP's use/placement of the word "others" indicates that she was calling THIS guy an officer.
Like many we have seen on DCUM, she just wants to throw random military words/terms around ("enlist" "dishonorable discharge" etc.) with ignorance--using them in incorrect ways.

Seems like you just want to deflect from the real issue. The military is filled with these people, they are not loyal to the constitution, the country, the service or other who serve. Sound like you are one of them.

The military is more diverse than the general population and has LONG had higher rates of interracial marriage than the general population. It doesnt really follow that the military is "full" of white supremacists. In fact, one of the reasons that the military has been an attractive career for educated black people is because it is more egalitarian and less discriminatory than the civilian world.

Among the report’s findings: The enlisted ranks of the active and reserve military were “slightly more racially and ethnically diverse than its U.S. civilian counterparts.” But not the officer corps. Furthermore, it found that the civilian population eligible to become commissioned officers was “less racially and ethnically diverse than the civilian population eligible for enlisted service.”

The breakdown of all active commissioned officers: 73% white; 8% each Black and Hispanic; 6% Asian; 4% multiracial; and less than 1% Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander, American Indian or Alaska Native. And the diversity gap widened the higher individuals moved up in the ranks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other military officers surely knew of his character but did nothing about it.

"Other?" This guy was not an officer.
Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

Surely he was supervised by officers.

Of course, but PP's use/placement of the word "others" indicates that she was calling THIS guy an officer.
Like many we have seen on DCUM, she just wants to throw random military words/terms around ("enlist" "dishonorable discharge" etc.) with ignorance--using them in incorrect ways.

Seems like you just want to deflect from the real issue. The military is filled with these people, they are not loyal to the constitution, the country, the service or other who serve. Sound like you are one of them.

You are accusing me of not being "loyal to the constitution" because I criticized the misuse of military words/terms?

I think you are part of the problem. You attack posters concerned about white nationalists in a highly selective unit because of their use of terminology. It appears you wish to shut down any talk of the problem. So why should I not think you are part of the same problem? Address the problem. If you are so knowledgeable of the Army talk about how an openly white supremacist was able to make it through basic, jump school and 11B MOS AIT, get promoted to specialist in an airborne unit. He was most likely in that unit for over a year and was not flagged but promoted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other military officers surely knew of his character but did nothing about it.

"Other?" This guy was not an officer.
Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

Surely he was supervised by officers.

Of course, but PP's use/placement of the word "others" indicates that she was calling THIS guy an officer.
Like many we have seen on DCUM, she just wants to throw random military words/terms around ("enlist" "dishonorable discharge" etc.) with ignorance--using them in incorrect ways.

Seems like you just want to deflect from the real issue. The military is filled with these people, they are not loyal to the constitution, the country, the service or other who serve. Sound like you are one of them.

You are accusing me of not being "loyal to the constitution" because I criticized the misuse of military words/terms?

I think you are part of the problem. You attack posters concerned about white nationalists in a highly selective unit because of their use of terminology. It appears you wish to shut down any talk of the problem. So why should I not think you are part of the same problem? Address the problem. If you are so knowledgeable of the Army talk about how an openly white supremacist was able to make it through basic, jump school and 11B MOS AIT, get promoted to specialist in an airborne unit. He was most likely in that unit for over a year and was not flagged but promoted.

"The problem" is people asserting their opinion into things without knowing a thing about it--and stating it as fact, when it is flat out false. Showing your ignorance, and unwillingness to even be corrected/LEARN the correct way, demonstrates that absolutely everything you say should be dismissed and ignored because it is garbage.
By stating false information as "fact' YOU are "the problem."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other military officers surely knew of his character but did nothing about it.

"Other?" This guy was not an officer.
Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

Surely he was supervised by officers.

Of course, but PP's use/placement of the word "others" indicates that she was calling THIS guy an officer.
Like many we have seen on DCUM, she just wants to throw random military words/terms around ("enlist" "dishonorable discharge" etc.) with ignorance--using them in incorrect ways.

Seems like you just want to deflect from the real issue. The military is filled with these people, they are not loyal to the constitution, the country, the service or other who serve. Sound like you are one of them.

The military is more diverse than the general population and has LONG had higher rates of interracial marriage than the general population. It doesnt really follow that the military is "full" of white supremacists. In fact, one of the reasons that the military has been an attractive career for educated black people is because it is more egalitarian and less discriminatory than the civilian world.

Please it was forced on the military. I was an office in the Army in the ‘90’s. The opinions openly expressed by fellow officers and even 05 and 06 levels were eye opening. They looked after their own kind. The Navy is still lilly white and it is not by accident. What we have now is enlisted personnel in combat units forming their own units of like minded individuals. I can not see how this would not effect unit cohesion

The military integrated before academia. And, integration was famously forced on public schools (Ruby Bridges, etc).

I was also in the military and was warmly embraced by a unit mostly a different race than me, and was taken in by many like a literal family member. Your experience not universal. And, the Navy is much more white, so maybe look there instead of projecting on the Army.

[Anonymous]

There is always a certain percentage of people who join the military looking for a legal way to kill. It just another unfortunate aspect of humanity.

The military does a good job of filtering out the deranged one who get through first screens. It is not as easy as you think.

Only about 25% of 18-24 year olds even qualify for service.

It is way lower among non-whites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other military officers surely knew of his character but did nothing about it.

"Other?" This guy was not an officer.
Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

Surely he was supervised by officers.

Of course, but PP's use/placement of the word "others" indicates that she was calling THIS guy an officer.
Like many we have seen on DCUM, she just wants to throw random military words/terms around ("enlist" "dishonorable discharge" etc.) with ignorance--using them in incorrect ways.

Seems like you just want to deflect from the real issue. The military is filled with these people, they are not loyal to the constitution, the country, the service or other who serve. Sound like you are one of them.

The military is more diverse than the general population and has LONG had higher rates of interracial marriage than the general population. It doesnt really follow that the military is "full" of white supremacists. In fact, one of the reasons that the military has been an attractive career for educated black people is because it is more egalitarian and less discriminatory than the civilian world.

There is nothing diverse about combat arms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Other military officers surely knew of his character but did nothing about it.

"Other?" This guy was not an officer.
Stop talking about things you have no clue about.

Surely he was supervised by officers.

Of course, but PP's use/placement of the word "others" indicates that she was calling THIS guy an officer.
Like many we have seen on DCUM, she just wants to throw random military words/terms around ("enlist" "dishonorable discharge" etc.) with ignorance--using them in incorrect ways.

Seems like you just want to deflect from the real issue. The military is filled with these people, they are not loyal to the constitution, the country, the service or other who serve. Sound like you are one of them.

The military is more diverse than the general population and has LONG had higher rates of interracial marriage than the general population. It doesnt really follow that the military is "full" of white supremacists. In fact, one of the reasons that the military has been an attractive career for educated black people is because it is more egalitarian and less discriminatory than the civilian world.

Please it was forced on the military. I was an office in the Army in the ‘90’s. The opinions openly expressed by fellow officers and even 05 and 06 levels were eye opening. They looked after their own kind. The Navy is still lilly white and it is not by accident. What we have now is enlisted personnel in combat units forming their own units of like minded individuals. I can not see how this would not effect unit cohesion

The military integrated before academia. And, integration was famously forced on public schools (Ruby Bridges, etc).

I was also in the military and was warmly embraced by a unit mostly a different race than me, and was taken in by many like a literal family member. Your experience not universal. And, the Navy is much more white, so maybe look there instead of projecting on the Army.

You say that integration was “famously forced on public schools” like it wasn’t also forced on the military. Integration was absolutely forced on the military. Every branch has issues with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But it attracts a higher proportion of conservative people (who believe in "traditional" values, including outdated gender roles) than the general population. Check out the Air Force Academy's culture:

https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/air_force_cadets...ious_harassment_on_yahoo_news/

And the Air Force is considered the more "evolved" of the service branches.

(I say this as someone who has worked for DoD for decades.)

The USAF is infested with evangelical nativists.

So is the Marine Corps.