Union College in NY

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Skidmore seems another one to visit while you are there. The campus isn’t as pretty as Union’s but it’s still nice, and it is in Saratoga Springs so the area is nicer. I think Skidmore and Union used to be sister/brother colleges, although both have been co-ed for a long time. My impression is that Skidmore skews more artsy, although if your DD is playing a sport that won’t much matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Also look at St Lawrence. Great D3 sports, beautiful and walkable campus (in a small town surrounded by other colleges), loyal alumni base, wonderful merit aid for kids with her stats.

Ditto all of this. My DD with a 4.4W got $40K per year in merit. I am an alum and loved my experience there.

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Anonymous wrote:Skidmore seems another one to visit while you are there. The campus isn’t as pretty as Union’s but it’s still nice, and it is in Saratoga Springs so the area is nicer. I think Skidmore and Union used to be sister/brother colleges, although both have been co-ed for a long time. My impression is that Skidmore skews more artsy, although if your DD is playing a sport that won’t much matter.

I'm the Conn College poster, and I agree with the post above. Skidmore is a gorgeous campus in a very nice little town. Saratoga Springs has lots going on in the summer in the arts.

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Anonymous wrote:Also look at St Lawrence. Great D3 sports, beautiful and walkable campus (in a small town surrounded by other colleges), loyal alumni base, wonderful merit aid for kids with her stats.

They’re both party schools for rich kids who don’t want to actually go to college for the academics, but their parents are making them anyway. Any serious student would have a lot of regrets.

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Anonymous wrote:Also look at St Lawrence. Great D3 sports, beautiful and walkable campus (in a small town surrounded by other colleges), loyal alumni base, wonderful merit aid for kids with her stats.

They’re both party schools for rich kids who don’t want to actually go to college for the academics, but their parents are making them anyway. Any serious student would have a lot of regrets.

Sweeping generalizations like that are just plain ignorant.

Susan Collins, the Senator from Maine, attended St. Lawrence.

The current CEO of Texas Instruments attended Union.

It didn't keep them from achieving their goals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also look at St Lawrence. Great D3 sports, beautiful and walkable campus (in a small town surrounded by other colleges), loyal alumni base, wonderful merit aid for kids with her stats.

They’re both party schools for rich kids who don’t want to actually go to college for the academics, but their parents are making them anyway. Any serious student would have a lot of regrets.

Sweeping generalizations like that are just plain ignorant.

Susan Collins, the Senator from Maine, attended St. Lawrence.

The current CEO of Texas Instruments attended Union.

It didn't keep them from achieving their goals.

Yes you are correct, that poster is a purposeful troll, the academics are excellent at those colleges. Union's STEM programs and facilities are shockingly good for an LAC and easy to evaluate as they show them off on the tours. Ask them about grad school placement rates too. Don't trust anonymous posters who clearly know nothing and were likely rejected.

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Anonymous wrote:Also look at St Lawrence. Great D3 sports, beautiful and walkable campus (in a small town surrounded by other colleges), loyal alumni base, wonderful merit aid for kids with her stats.

They’re both party schools for rich kids who don’t want to actually go to college for the academics, but their parents are making them anyway. Any serious student would have a lot of regrets.

Sweeping generalizations like that are just plain ignorant.

Susan Collins, the Senator from Maine, attended St. Lawrence.

The current CEO of Texas Instruments attended Union.

It didn't keep them from achieving their goals.

Yes you are correct, that poster is a purposeful troll, the academics are excellent at those colleges. Union's STEM programs and facilities are shockingly good for an LAC and easy to evaluate as they show them off on the tours. Ask them about grad school placement rates too. Don't trust anonymous posters who clearly know nothing and were likely rejected.

I’m the PP and no I was not rejected. My son’s best friend went to St. Lawrence for a year before transferring to a much better school (T20) and the stories he has told us are insane. And no, my son himself did not apply to either of these joke schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Also look at St Lawrence. Great D3 sports, beautiful and walkable campus (in a small town surrounded by other colleges), loyal alumni base, wonderful merit aid for kids with her stats.

They’re both party schools for rich kids who don’t want to actually go to college for the academics, but their parents are making them anyway. Any serious student would have a lot of regrets.

Sweeping generalizations like that are just plain ignorant.

Susan Collins, the Senator from Maine, attended St. Lawrence.

The current CEO of Texas Instruments attended Union.

It didn't keep them from achieving their goals.

Yes you are correct, that poster is a purposeful troll, the academics are excellent at those colleges. Union's STEM programs and facilities are shockingly good for an LAC and easy to evaluate as they show them off on the tours. Ask them about grad school placement rates too. Don't trust anonymous posters who clearly know nothing and were likely rejected.

I’m the PP and no I was not rejected. My son’s best friend went to St. Lawrence for a year before transferring to a much better school (T20) and the stories he has told us are insane. And no, my son himself did not apply to either of these joke schools.

NP here. Your name calling and unfounded derision just make you look bad. Stop that.

To the previous helpful posters, my DD may also be interested in Union. Wants an LAC feel and interested in engineering. Creative, singer/actor, avid reader, not a partier.

[Anonymous]

Don't dismiss the comments regarding St. Lawrence & Union. While not universally true, they are common comments about both schools. Lots of alcohol consumed at these two schools. Hard to avoid if one wants an active social life. Nevertheless, both produce successful students. I do, however, agree with the poster who wrote that one serious about academics would probably look elsewhere first.

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I attended St. Lawrence (back in the day) as a b+ student at a New England public school. My best friends from SLU came from all over the northeast and even the DC area. I didn't happen to have any rich prep school friends, I guess just because that's not who i am. Meanwhile, my friends all now have advanced degrees, one is a surgeon, several are lawyers and another PhD. I guess I'm the under achiever in that I never wanted to continue school though I have been well over six figures for 20 years.

Yes it was and is a pretty heavy drinking school but the same can be said for 85% of the small liberal arts colleges.

If you are smart/motivated enough to get into Ivy league or top 20, yeah probably not a fit. I believe it's ranked in the mid 50s by USNEWS for liberal arts colleges. I loved it and had no problem recommending it to my kids if they were interested in something different than the in state VA options.

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Anonymous wrote:Also look at St Lawrence. Great D3 sports, beautiful and walkable campus (in a small town surrounded by other colleges), loyal alumni base, wonderful merit aid for kids with her stats.

They’re both party schools for rich kids who don’t want to actually go to college for the academics, but their parents are making them anyway. Any serious student would have a lot of regrets.

Sweeping generalizations like that are just plain ignorant.

Susan Collins, the Senator from Maine, attended St. Lawrence.

The current CEO of Texas Instruments attended Union.

It didn't keep them from achieving their goals.

Yes you are correct, that poster is a purposeful troll, the academics are excellent at those colleges. Union's STEM programs and facilities are shockingly good for an LAC and easy to evaluate as they show them off on the tours. Ask them about grad school placement rates too. Don't trust anonymous posters who clearly know nothing and were likely rejected.

I’m the PP and no I was not rejected. My son’s best friend went to St. Lawrence for a year before transferring to a much better school (T20) and the stories he has told us are insane. And no, my son himself did not apply to either of these joke schools.

No, you're a troll, or someone HUGELY uninformed. Probably both.

You've never visited, done no research, offer no stats, no supporting information, just an anecdote about St L from your son's BFF, and nothing about Union at all despite you're taking a shot at it.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Anonymous wrote:Also look at St Lawrence. Great D3 sports, beautiful and walkable campus (in a small town surrounded by other colleges), loyal alumni base, wonderful merit aid for kids with her stats.

They’re both party schools for rich kids who don’t want to actually go to college for the academics, but their parents are making them anyway. Any serious student would have a lot of regrets.

Sweeping generalizations like that are just plain ignorant.

Susan Collins, the Senator from Maine, attended St. Lawrence.

The current CEO of Texas Instruments attended Union.

It didn't keep them from achieving their goals.

Yes you are correct, that poster is a purposeful troll, the academics are excellent at those colleges. Union's STEM programs and facilities are shockingly good for an LAC and easy to evaluate as they show them off on the tours. Ask them about grad school placement rates too. Don't trust anonymous posters who clearly know nothing and were likely rejected.

I’m the PP and no I was not rejected. My son’s best friend went to St. Lawrence for a year before transferring to a much better school (T20) and the stories he has told us are insane. And no, my son himself did not apply to either of these joke schools.

No, you're a troll, or someone HUGELY uninformed. Probably both.

You've never visited, done no research, offer no stats, no supporting information, just an anecdote about St L from your son's BFF, and nothing about Union at all despite you're taking a shot at it.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

This poster does a great disservice to DCUM readers. Although I am not the poster you are attempting to discredit, I suspect that it is you who is unfamiliar with these two schools.

Both SLU & Union have students who are bright, hardworking and now successful in their chosen fields. But, that does not mean that the 4 years of undergraduate school was not a journey filled with some serious partying.

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Anonymous wrote:Also look at St Lawrence. Great D3 sports, beautiful and walkable campus (in a small town surrounded by other colleges), loyal alumni base, wonderful merit aid for kids with her stats.

They’re both party schools for rich kids who don’t want to actually go to college for the academics, but their parents are making them anyway. Any serious student would have a lot of regrets.

Sweeping generalizations like that are just plain ignorant.

Susan Collins, the Senator from Maine, attended St. Lawrence.

The current CEO of Texas Instruments attended Union.

It didn't keep them from achieving their goals.

Yes you are correct, that poster is a purposeful troll, the academics are excellent at those colleges. Union's STEM programs and facilities are shockingly good for an LAC and easy to evaluate as they show them off on the tours. Ask them about grad school placement rates too. Don't trust anonymous posters who clearly know nothing and were likely rejected.

I’m the PP and no I was not rejected. My son’s best friend went to St. Lawrence for a year before transferring to a much better school (T20) and the stories he has told us are insane. And no, my son himself did not apply to either of these joke schools.

No, you're a troll, or someone HUGELY uninformed. Probably both.

You've never visited, done no research, offer no stats, no supporting information, just an anecdote about St L from your son's BFF, and nothing about Union at all despite you're taking a shot at it.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

This poster does a great disservice to DCUM readers. Although I am not the poster you are attempting to discredit, I suspect that it is you who is unfamiliar with these two schools.

Both SLU & Union have students who are bright, hardworking and now successful in their chosen fields. But, that does not mean that the 4 years of undergraduate school was not a journey filled with some serious partying.

You do realize the same could be said for pretty much any school, anywhere? Heck my kid does go to a top school and they can’t believe how much social pressure there is to go out and drink, and do other things. It’s the nature of kids this age, always has been.

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Anonymous wrote:I attended St. Lawrence (back in the day) as a b+ student at a New England public school. My best friends from SLU came from all over the northeast and even the DC area. I didn't happen to have any rich prep school friends, I guess just because that's not who i am. Meanwhile, my friends all now have advanced degrees, one is a surgeon, several are lawyers and another PhD. I guess I'm the under achiever in that I never wanted to continue school though I have been well over six figures for 20 years.

Yes it was and is a pretty heavy drinking school but the same can be said for 85% of the small liberal arts colleges.

If you are smart/motivated enough to get into Ivy league or top 20, yeah probably not a fit. I believe it's ranked in the mid 50s by USNEWS for liberal arts colleges. I loved it and had no problem recommending it to my kids if they were interested in something different than the in state VA options.

"I attended St. Lawrence.

"Yes it was a pretty heavy drinking school...."

"If you are smart/motivated enough to get into Ivy League or top 20, yeah probably not a fit."

"I loved it and had no problem recommending it to my kids...."

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Anonymous wrote:I attended St. Lawrence (back in the day) as a b+ student at a New England public school. My best friends from SLU came from all over the northeast and even the DC area. I didn't happen to have any rich prep school friends, I guess just because that's not who i am. Meanwhile, my friends all now have advanced degrees, one is a surgeon, several are lawyers and another PhD. I guess I'm the under achiever in that I never wanted to continue school though I have been well over six figures for 20 years.

Yes it was and is a pretty heavy drinking school but the same can be said for 85% of the small liberal arts colleges.

If you are smart/motivated enough to get into Ivy league or top 20, yeah probably not a fit. I believe it's ranked in the mid 50s by USNEWS for liberal arts colleges. I loved it and had no problem recommending it to my kids if they were interested in something different than the in state VA options.

"I attended St. Lawrence.

"Yes it was a pretty heavy drinking school...."

"If you are smart/motivated enough to get into Ivy League or top 20, yeah probably not a fit."

"I loved it and had no problem recommending it to my kids...."

I’m sorry what do you have a problem with? It’s not news to anyone that it’s not a too 20 or 30 or anywhere close so yeah if you go in expecting that you are in the wrong place. Yes they drink there, college kids drink everywhere, that’s news to you? Yeah my kids could go there if they wanted, it’s a great school with a very strong alumni network and all my friends who I graduated with are very successful. So your point is what?