Employee of store didn't get maternity leave - WWYD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If local, probably a store that people on this board frequent and think the local neighborhood-y angle is just great.

Post the store, let them deal with the blowback

Honestly, yeah. Sometimes this is the only way change happens.

Especially because, at least when I was working for a small company, they manipulate things to keep their staffing under the number that would require them to provide more to their employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DONATE. that is the key word. I do not want money (taxes) forcibly taken out my paycheck to pay for someone's choice to have a baby. She and her partner should have waited until they had enough saved up. Also, have on one here EVER heard the word adoption??

Or Abortion?

Or getting their tubes tied?

Or not having sex?

Why do these poor women think that they are entitled to have babies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Put pressure on the owners. This is so wrong!

My kids went to a religious preschool and the school tried to do this to one of the teachers. The parents all got together and changed the school’s mind quickly!

+1. If the store values the neighborhood’s business, they will change.

It’s so easy to mobilize now with social media. A couple posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DONATE. that is the key word. I do not want money (taxes) forcibly taken out my paycheck to pay for someone's choice to have a baby. She and her partner should have waited until they had enough saved up. Also, have on one here EVER heard the word adoption??

OP. Did you even read my post? I said literally nothing about PAID leave. I said she got ZERO leave. She was told to come back to work or her job was gone.

Very scary to me that people like you vote. Reading comprehension is key.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DONATE. that is the key word. I do not want money (taxes) forcibly taken out my paycheck to pay for someone's choice to have a baby. She and her partner should have waited until they had enough saved up. Also, have on one here EVER heard the word adoption??

Or Abortion?

Or getting their tubes tied?

Or not having sex?

Why do these poor women think that they are entitled to have babies?

Exactly! And we need to pay for their houses too! And their cars! And their cable bill! They are entitled to it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a small health food grocery store I frequent. They make a big show about how they treat their employees well.

I was talking to a couple employees and they confided in me that one of them is only 4 weeks postpartum and working already. She was told if she didn't come back within 2 weeks of giving birth, she would lose her job. I don't know if FMLA applies to her since I don't know how long she has been there, the number of employees, etc. But this strikes me as absolutely cruel and inhumane. I told her that she has rights, and they said there would be drama if they started anything and they could lose their jobs.

Is there anything I can do? I thought about posting a review online and contacting management, but I know she will get in trouble for saying anything to me. Obviously I won't be shopping there anymore. I just wish there was more I could do, I even offered to pay for a session with an attorney but she turned me down, I know she needs the job and losing it will harm her family. But it especially pisses me off that they put on a big show of being so progressive, and yet moms are treated like garbage.

Do you have a nanny? Would you give her 3 months maternity leave,? No, you wouldn't. Small employers cannot give maternity leave.

[Anonymous]

You all realize that women in other countries have this problem as well? Paid maternity leave is often at 40 or 60%. And a lot of women return to work because they need 100% of their pay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a small health food grocery store I frequent. They make a big show about how they treat their employees well.

I was talking to a couple employees and they confided in me that one of them is only 4 weeks postpartum and working already. She was told if she didn't come back within 2 weeks of giving birth, she would lose her job. I don't know if FMLA applies to her since I don't know how long she has been there, the number of employees, etc. But this strikes me as absolutely cruel and inhumane. I told her that she has rights, and they said there would be drama if they started anything and they could lose their jobs.

Is there anything I can do? I thought about posting a review online and contacting management, but I know she will get in trouble for saying anything to me. Obviously I won't be shopping there anymore. I just wish there was more I could do, I even offered to pay for a session with an attorney but she turned me down, I know she needs the job and losing it will harm her family. But it especially pisses me off that they put on a big show of being so progressive, and yet moms are treated like garbage.

Do you have a nanny? Would you give her 3 months maternity leave,? No, you wouldn't. Small employers cannot give maternity leave.

Yes, they actually can. And yes our nanny was given three months maternity leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DONATE. that is the key word. I do not want money (taxes) forcibly taken out my paycheck to pay for someone's choice to have a baby. She and her partner should have waited until they had enough saved up. Also, have on one here EVER heard the word adoption??

Or Abortion?

Or getting their tubes tied?

Or not having sex?

Why do these poor women think that they are entitled to have babies?

Exactly! And we need to pay for their houses too! And their cars! And their cable bill! They are entitled to it!

Yeah, you always post the same nonsense. So you can continue to spend money in this store. I’m not going to and I’m going to alert other like-minded patrons of their policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The country really, really needs to establish some period of PAID parental leave that applies to everyone, across the board. One would think that with Roe being overturned and all of these “pro-life” people making their concerns heard that this would be seen as an urgent priority, but certainly it will not be. It’s really pathetic how poorly the government and private industry treats people.

Nope. As long as people are pouring over the border and our population continues to grow there is zero reason to promote more people.
Close the border, allow only select immigrants in (like Canada- they need to benefit the USA) to get us to zero population growth and then we’ll talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DONATE. that is the key word. I do not want money (taxes) forcibly taken out my paycheck to pay for someone's choice to have a baby. She and her partner should have waited until they had enough saved up. Also, have on one here EVER heard the word adoption??

OP. Did you even read my post? I said literally nothing about PAID leave. I said she got ZERO leave. She was told to come back to work or her job was gone.

Very scary to me that people like you vote. Reading comprehension is key.

Oh well, probably doesn’t have a skill set to do more than bag groceries. Hopefully she will be one and done and us tax payers won’t be footing the bill for the next 18+ years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely say something to management. If you're a frequent customer, you would notice a pregnant worker who then returned two weeks later. You could ask what the policy is and how "supportive" they are around family rights. You can speak to this in generalities without ever mentioning that you spoke with this worker.

Is this a local store?

+1 for this. Their response probably will be that she is welcome to take leave but it would be unpaid. Apparently that is the law.

I say apparently because I ran into a similar situation at my work about 10 years ago. I am a teacher and I work for a large school system in the DMV. All teachers are allowed to take maternity leave but they are only paid for it if they use their own sick leave. One of our new teachers had her baby in October and was back to work after three weeks (we receive 15 days of leave at the beginning of the school year). She used her 15 days and came back. It was appalling to me and others. Anyway, it took some doing but one of my colleagues and I were finally (!!!) allowed to donate leave to her so that this young woman could have eight weeks of maternity leave. It took us two weeks to get the school system to agree that they would ALLOW us to DONATE our leave to her. The whole thing still makes me crazy!

Anyway, the employee may not have enough leave saved up to take a paid maternity leave. It completely sucks but apparently it is the law. You are allowed to take leave but your employer is not required to pay you for it.

Hold up! There was no short term disability??? I also work for a large school system (FCPS) and have had two children in the 20 years I've worked here. With both deliveries, I had to use the first 20 days of my own leave, and then short-term disability kicked in. I had a c-section with each delivery and was covered through 8 weeks. If I wanted to stay home longer, I would have paid myself through use of my own sick leave. We do not have a "sick leave bank" here. If you are sick for more than 5 days within a 30-day period or have an ongoing issue, you use short-term disability.

Short-term disability is a benefit that isn't universal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DONATE. that is the key word. I do not want money (taxes) forcibly taken out my paycheck to pay for someone's choice to have a baby. She and her partner should have waited until they had enough saved up. Also, have on one here EVER heard the word adoption??

OP. Did you even read my post? I said literally nothing about PAID leave. I said she got ZERO leave. She was told to come back to work or her job was gone.

Very scary to me that people like you vote. Reading comprehension is key.

Oh well, probably doesn’t have a skill set to do more than bag groceries. Hopefully she will be one and done and us tax payers won’t be footing the bill for the next 18+ years.

You have no idea what her finances are. GFY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely say something to management. If you're a frequent customer, you would notice a pregnant worker who then returned two weeks later. You could ask what the policy is and how "supportive" they are around family rights. You can speak to this in generalities without ever mentioning that you spoke with this worker.

Is this a local store?

+1 for this. Their response probably will be that she is welcome to take leave but it would be unpaid. Apparently that is the law.

I say apparently because I ran into a similar situation at my work about 10 years ago. I am a teacher and I work for a large school system in the DMV. All teachers are allowed to take maternity leave but they are only paid for it if they use their own sick leave. One of our new teachers had her baby in October and was back to work after three weeks (we receive 15 days of leave at the beginning of the school year). She used her 15 days and came back. It was appalling to me and others. Anyway, it took some doing but one of my colleagues and I were finally (!!!) allowed to donate leave to her so that this young woman could have eight weeks of maternity leave. It took us two weeks to get the school system to agree that they would ALLOW us to DONATE our leave to her. The whole thing still makes me crazy!

Anyway, the employee may not have enough leave saved up to take a paid maternity leave. It completely sucks but apparently it is the law. You are allowed to take leave but your employer is not required to pay you for it.

Hold up! There was no short term disability??? I also work for a large school system (FCPS) and have had two children in the 20 years I've worked here. With both deliveries, I had to use the first 20 days of my own leave, and then short-term disability kicked in. I had a c-section with each delivery and was covered through 8 weeks. If I wanted to stay home longer, I would have paid myself through use of my own sick leave. We do not have a "sick leave bank" here. If you are sick for more than 5 days within a 30-day period or have an ongoing issue, you use short-term disability.

Short-term disability is a benefit that isn't universal.

I work at a law firm that doesn't give short-term disability. Bc of that they give a lot of sick time. I currently have 31 days of it accrued.

[Anonymous]

I don't get it, this is a common scenario even for white collar workers. If you haven't been somewhere for 1 year you don't have leave benefits.