What should I expect to pay for a certified reading specialist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just so parents understand, an OG trained teacher took the 30 hr long course (I'm taking it now). If you are OG certified, you've done a 6+ month long practicum that costs $2K. Make sure you ask if the person is trained or certified. Certified folks will command higher pay.

Can anyone sign up for this training or do you need a teaching license?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just so parents understand, an OG trained teacher took the 30 hr long course (I'm taking it now). If you are OG certified, you've done a 6+ month long practicum that costs $2K. Make sure you ask if the person is trained or certified. Certified folks will command higher pay.

Can anyone sign up for this training or do you need a teaching license?

Because these packaged programs are companies that receive quite a profit and use the words " certified."

A teacher isn't better trained in reading because they paid for a commercial program. A teacher who is trained by years of experience and ongoing education is the best choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just so parents understand, an OG trained teacher took the 30 hr long course (I'm taking it now). If you are OG certified, you've done a 6+ month long practicum that costs $2K. Make sure you ask if the person is trained or certified. Certified folks will command higher pay.

Can anyone sign up for this training or do you need a teaching license?

Unfortunately, anyone can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Be careful with the certifications. You want training/ experience tailored to the challenge you are trying to address. A Fellow of the Orton Gillingham Academy can charge between $75-200 an hour depending on the location.

Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained.

Actually the opposite is true. It's the sham programs that are the rip offs. The certified reading specialists understand the nuanced and varied neurological complexities of reading and already know prescriptive scripted programs work for no one.

OMG, no. You need find a reading specialist that is Orton-Gillingham (or at a minimum Wilson Fundations) certified.

No, you absolutely do not. You need an experienced reading specialist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Be careful with the certifications. You want training/ experience tailored to the challenge you are trying to address. A Fellow of the Orton Gillingham Academy can charge between $75-200 an hour depending on the location.

Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained.

Actually the opposite is true. It's the sham programs that are the rip offs. The certified reading specialists understand the nuanced and varied neurological complexities of reading and already know prescriptive scripted programs work for no one.

New poster here. This has NOT been our experience or the experience of most parents we know in the dyslexia community. Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained and do not understand dyslexia at all. They often use the "whole language" method that became popular in the 1980's which includes just memorizing lots of sight words. Memorization works great for some kids but is a disaster for others. Look for a specialist who has completed a rigorous Orton Gillingham based training reading program. We went through ASDEC in Rockville, MD, to find ours. I think we paid around $85 an hour but it was incredibly effective.

As a reading specialist of nearly 37 years, and a college professor, trainer of teachers, and literacy specialist for all ages in all settings, I can unequivocally say that you are wrong. You basically states that reading specialists do not understand dyslexia, and that statement alone should give everyone pause. What do you think everyone is doing in grad school? Perhaps it is you that doesn't understand it. And, I can assure you that there is not one packaged program that "cures" dyslexia. Sorry!

I'm involved in curriculum development for many public settings, and no, no one uses whole language as a reading tool in early instruction. The term was being used in the 1970s, and frankly, it has no real meaning in any program context today. No early reading program has a whole language instructional goal. This is propaganda that commercial companies use, not unlike the right wing rhetoric about CRT, to influence parents, knowing lay people don't have anybackground and can get hung up on terms. This has been going on for decades. And another news flash: developmental optometry- also rubbish.

Spend your $$ as you wish. I can direct you to a number of neighborhood MLMs, too, if you are interested.

So you're saying the Kindergarten teacher that didn't give my child any phonics instruction and instead suggest she guess words based on pictures was teaching her to read the right way? But her OG-certified tutor who DID teach her using phonics-based and multi-sensory methods, as well as the little "tricks" like "controlled R" and "magic E" did not? Ok, thanks. I'll use common sense and what ACTUALLY worked for my child as proof not your bloviated "blah blah I'm an expert listen to me because I have a lot experience" nonsense. In my experience, the people with 20+ years of experience are the ones spewing nonsense.

Listen to yourself, especially your last line- does it even make sense?

In my experience, the people with 20+ years of experience are the ones spewing nonsense.

Do you apply this to all professional situations in your life? Please, use an intuitive psychic instead of a dr for your child, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so parents understand, an OG trained teacher took the 30 hr long course (I'm taking it now). If you are OG certified, you've done a 6+ month long practicum that costs $2K. Make sure you ask if the person is trained or certified. Certified folks will command higher pay.

Can anyone sign up for this training or do you need a teaching license?

Because these packaged programs are companies that receive quite a profit and use the words " certified."

A teacher isn't better trained in reading because they paid for a commercial program. A teacher who is trained by years of experience and ongoing education is the best choice.

Found the teacher with 15+ years experience up there!!! You are absolutely wrong. You need someone who is using OG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be careful with the certifications. You want training/ experience tailored to the challenge you are trying to address. A Fellow of the Orton Gillingham Academy can charge between $75-200 an hour depending on the location.

Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained.

Actually the opposite is true. It's the sham programs that are the rip offs. The certified reading specialists understand the nuanced and varied neurological complexities of reading and already know prescriptive scripted programs work for no one.

New poster here. This has NOT been our experience or the experience of most parents we know in the dyslexia community. Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained and do not understand dyslexia at all. They often use the "whole language" method that became popular in the 1980's which includes just memorizing lots of sight words. Memorization works great for some kids but is a disaster for others. Look for a specialist who has completed a rigorous Orton Gillingham based training reading program. We went through ASDEC in Rockville, MD, to find ours. I think we paid around $85 an hour but it was incredibly effective.

As a reading specialist of nearly 37 years, and a college professor, trainer of teachers, and literacy specialist for all ages in all settings, I can unequivocally say that you are wrong. You basically states that reading specialists do not understand dyslexia, and that statement alone should give everyone pause. What do you think everyone is doing in grad school? Perhaps it is you that doesn't understand it. And, I can assure you that there is not one packaged program that "cures" dyslexia. Sorry!

I'm involved in curriculum development for many public settings, and no, no one uses whole language as a reading tool in early instruction. The term was being used in the 1970s, and frankly, it has no real meaning in any program context today. No early reading program has a whole language instructional goal. This is propaganda that commercial companies use, not unlike the right wing rhetoric about CRT, to influence parents, knowing lay people don't have anybackground and can get hung up on terms. This has been going on for decades. And another news flash: developmental optometry- also rubbish.

Spend your $$ as you wish. I can direct you to a number of neighborhood MLMs, too, if you are interested.

So you're saying the Kindergarten teacher that didn't give my child any phonics instruction and instead suggest she guess words based on pictures was teaching her to read the right way? But her OG-certified tutor who DID teach her using phonics-based and multi-sensory methods, as well as the little "tricks" like "controlled R" and "magic E" did not? Ok, thanks. I'll use common sense and what ACTUALLY worked for my child as proof not your bloviated "blah blah I'm an expert listen to me because I have a lot experience" nonsense. In my experience, the people with 20+ years of experience are the ones spewing nonsense.

Listen to yourself, especially your last line- does it even make sense?

In my experience, the people with 20+ years of experience are the ones spewing nonsense.

Do you apply this to all professional situations in your life? Please, use an intuitive psychic instead of a dr for your child, too.

Struck a nerve, huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be careful with the certifications. You want training/ experience tailored to the challenge you are trying to address. A Fellow of the Orton Gillingham Academy can charge between $75-200 an hour depending on the location.

Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained.

Actually the opposite is true. It's the sham programs that are the rip offs. The certified reading specialists understand the nuanced and varied neurological complexities of reading and already know prescriptive scripted programs work for no one.

New poster here. This has NOT been our experience or the experience of most parents we know in the dyslexia community. Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained and do not understand dyslexia at all. They often use the "whole language" method that became popular in the 1980's which includes just memorizing lots of sight words. Memorization works great for some kids but is a disaster for others. Look for a specialist who has completed a rigorous Orton Gillingham based training reading program. We went through ASDEC in Rockville, MD, to find ours. I think we paid around $85 an hour but it was incredibly effective.

As a reading specialist of nearly 37 years, and a college professor, trainer of teachers, and literacy specialist for all ages in all settings, I can unequivocally say that you are wrong. You basically states that reading specialists do not understand dyslexia, and that statement alone should give everyone pause. What do you think everyone is doing in grad school? Perhaps it is you that doesn't understand it. And, I can assure you that there is not one packaged program that "cures" dyslexia. Sorry!

I'm involved in curriculum development for many public settings, and no, no one uses whole language as a reading tool in early instruction. The term was being used in the 1970s, and frankly, it has no real meaning in any program context today. No early reading program has a whole language instructional goal. This is propaganda that commercial companies use, not unlike the right wing rhetoric about CRT, to influence parents, knowing lay people don't have anybackground and can get hung up on terms. This has been going on for decades. And another news flash: developmental optometry- also rubbish.

Spend your $$ as you wish. I can direct you to a number of neighborhood MLMs, too, if you are interested.

So you're saying the Kindergarten teacher that didn't give my child any phonics instruction and instead suggest she guess words based on pictures was teaching her to read the right way? But her OG-certified tutor who DID teach her using phonics-based and multi-sensory methods, as well as the little "tricks" like "controlled R" and "magic E" did not? Ok, thanks. I'll use common sense and what ACTUALLY worked for my child as proof not your bloviated "blah blah I'm an expert listen to me because I have a lot experience" nonsense. In my experience, the people with 20+ years of experience are the ones spewing nonsense.

Listen to yourself, especially your last line- does it even make sense?

In my experience, the people with 20+ years of experience are the ones spewing nonsense.

Do you apply this to all professional situations in your life? Please, use an intuitive psychic instead of a dr for your child, too.

It appears that you need a tutor to help with your reading comprehension. It's called context, honey. Everyone else knew what I meant, and several people agreed with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just so parents understand, an OG trained teacher took the 30 hr long course (I'm taking it now). If you are OG certified, you've done a 6+ month long practicum that costs $2K. Make sure you ask if the person is trained or certified. Certified folks will command higher pay.

Can anyone sign up for this training or do you need a teaching license?

Anyone can. The reading specialist at my school still swears by students using picture clues to "read." Just because someone is a reading specialist doesn't meant they know anything about the science of reading.

[Anonymous]

My kid in MCPS kinder, in a Churchill cluster school, was also sent home with "guess the word by the picture" books, back tracked about 6 months of phonics I started with my child because she was initially trying to sound out words and then now just tries to guess and gets frustrated when she can't guess the correct word. Because she's frustrated she doesn't want to try to decode it now. It's terrible.

[Anonymous]

The well known and highly decorated, OG trained reading specialists at my children’s school swore up and down my child was fine and on grade level reading. Tried to block further evaluation. Turns out she has dyslexia and dysgraphia and the reading specialist did absolutely nothing to help her, and moreover did more hurt than help. Just because someone is a reading specialists doesn’t mean they understand how to teach reading to the approximately 20% of kids that need explicit, structured literacy. Shame on them for even pretending they know. I hope they, like elementary teachers return to more phonics based instruction based on the actual science of reading.

[Anonymous]

Our DCPS is finally abandoning Lucy Calkins entirely thanks to a new principal getting a PhD in an adjacent field (although the change was underway before her). The school is sending 4 teachers, including our reading specialists, to be trained in OG. My impression is that most people think it’s the gold standard for dyslexia and useful for all kids who struggle.

But also, our DD’s K teacher at the same school taught about 2/3rds based on LC and only 1/3rd phonics. It was OK for my kid who ultimately picked up reading quickly/had a phonics-based foundation from us, but her teacher actually told my kid she was “wrong” for reading “puuppy” and told her to look at the picture… and then praised the kid who “read” dog. Obviously the text said puppy. Like wth. I was glad I heard this myself (because zoom school), because I would not have believed my daughter if she told me that happened. Teacher seemed solid otherwise… not just like a terrible teacher or something.

[Anonymous]

Public education is typical for jumping on whatever bandwagon is popular whether or not it is based on actual science. Don't fault the teachers. They are doing what they were taught. I always knew this guessing based on pictures and the first sound in a word was wrong but I had to do it when admins or their visitors came around. The rest of the time I shut my door and taught my students how to read the right way.

[Anonymous]

I think we paid $85 per hour for an experienced DC public school teacher who had done a thesis on reading interventions.

Intensity is important. We did three sessions a week for about three months to bring our dyslexia-diagnosed rising second grader up to grade level. We were thrilled.

https://readingreadydmv.com/your-teachers

https://www.wyzant.com/Washington_DC_tutors.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be careful with the certifications. You want training/ experience tailored to the challenge you are trying to address. A Fellow of the Orton Gillingham Academy can charge between $75-200 an hour depending on the location.

Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained.

Actually the opposite is true. It's the sham programs that are the rip offs. The certified reading specialists understand the nuanced and varied neurological complexities of reading and already know prescriptive scripted programs work for no one.

New poster here. This has NOT been our experience or the experience of most parents we know in the dyslexia community. Public school reading specialists are often poorly trained and do not understand dyslexia at all. They often use the "whole language" method that became popular in the 1980's which includes just memorizing lots of sight words. Memorization works great for some kids but is a disaster for others. Look for a specialist who has completed a rigorous Orton Gillingham based training reading program. We went through ASDEC in Rockville, MD, to find ours. I think we paid around $85 an hour but it was incredibly effective.

As a reading specialist of nearly 37 years, and a college professor, trainer of teachers, and literacy specialist for all ages in all settings, I can unequivocally say that you are wrong. You basically states that reading specialists do not understand dyslexia, and that statement alone should give everyone pause. What do you think everyone is doing in grad school? Perhaps it is you that doesn't understand it. And, I can assure you that there is not one packaged program that "cures" dyslexia. Sorry!

I'm involved in curriculum development for many public settings, and no, no one uses whole language as a reading tool in early instruction. The term was being used in the 1970s, and frankly, it has no real meaning in any program context today. No early reading program has a whole language instructional goal. This is propaganda that commercial companies use, not unlike the right wing rhetoric about CRT, to influence parents, knowing lay people don't have anybackground and can get hung up on terms. This has been going on for decades. And another news flash: developmental optometry- also rubbish.

Spend your $$ as you wish. I can direct you to a number of neighborhood MLMs, too, if you are interested.

NP. Schools focus on memorizing sight words/high frequency words (does it really matter if it's Dolch or Fry?), promote guessing and do not teach phonics adequately.

~tutor, 20+ years, frequently hired to undo the mistakes done in early public school instruction