Large amount donor for a non legacy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There has to be a veneer of social propriety to the donation for it to be foolproof.

First, in most cases, it has to be more than a 1M.

Second, the donor has to have an excellent altruistic reason to donate, something that could credibly supersede the merely personal motivations of getting a relative into that college. They will need to have built relationships with board members for some time, or the head of the development office. They will have discussed what their donation will be used for. They need to be seen as well-informed on what their donation can do for the school, and genuinely interested in furthering the interest of students other than their own.

After that sort of relationship, it becomes a natural gesture of goodwill for the university to admit their child, provided they aren't total dimwits.

But none of that would work if the donor didn't also attend or perhaps work at the university. Zero relationship then donating is still too transparent to get the kid admitted. After varsity blues anyway. Alum plus major donation will absolutely work, even after VB at VB related school. Trust me, I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has to be a veneer of social propriety to the donation for it to be foolproof.

First, in most cases, it has to be more than a 1M.

Second, the donor has to have an excellent altruistic reason to donate, something that could credibly supersede the merely personal motivations of getting a relative into that college. They will need to have built relationships with board members for some time, or the head of the development office. They will have discussed what their donation will be used for. They need to be seen as well-informed on what their donation can do for the school, and genuinely interested in furthering the interest of students other than their own.

After that sort of relationship, it becomes a natural gesture of goodwill for the university to admit their child, provided they aren't total dimwits.

But none of that would work if the donor didn't also attend or perhaps work at the university. Zero relationship then donating is still too transparent to get the kid admitted. After varsity blues anyway. Alum plus major donation will absolutely work, even after VB at VB related school. Trust me, I know.

So didn't Bush 41 make some big donation to Yale to get 43 in like a library?

[Anonymous]

Know of someone who's a legacy at Dartmouth, donated a million the year before son applied via his foundation, son got in. If that's enough for Dartmouth, 250k is probably enough for most schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Know of someone who's a legacy at Dartmouth, donated a million the year before son applied via his foundation, son got in. If that's enough for Dartmouth, 250k is probably enough for most schools.

We have no idea what the son’s credentials were. He could be a standout applicant and the donation sealed the deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Know of someone who's a legacy at Dartmouth, donated a million the year before son applied via his foundation, son got in. If that's enough for Dartmouth, 250k is probably enough for most schools.

We have no idea what the son’s credentials were. He could be a standout applicant and the donation sealed the deal.

Or not. Nevertheless seven figures is also what it takes to get Harvard to sit up and pay attention

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has to be a veneer of social propriety to the donation for it to be foolproof.

First, in most cases, it has to be more than a 1M.

Second, the donor has to have an excellent altruistic reason to donate, something that could credibly supersede the merely personal motivations of getting a relative into that college. They will need to have built relationships with board members for some time, or the head of the development office. They will have discussed what their donation will be used for. They need to be seen as well-informed on what their donation can do for the school, and genuinely interested in furthering the interest of students other than their own.

After that sort of relationship, it becomes a natural gesture of goodwill for the university to admit their child, provided they aren't total dimwits.

But none of that would work if the donor didn't also attend or perhaps work at the university. Zero relationship then donating is still too transparent to get the kid admitted. After varsity blues anyway. Alum plus major donation will absolutely work, even after VB at VB related school. Trust me, I know.

So didn't Bush 41 make some big donation to Yale to get 43 in like a library?

Right, like I said, it works if the donor also attended. 41 went to Yale. Your question makes no sense. But there is great value to universities in sustaining family relationships. So many many students benefit from the millions and millions of dollars that multi-generations of families contribute. It would be to the detriment of many if the practice were ceased.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Know of someone who's a legacy at Dartmouth, donated a million the year before son applied via his foundation, son got in. If that's enough for Dartmouth, 250k is probably enough for most schools.

We have no idea what the son’s credentials were. He could be a standout applicant and the donation sealed the deal.

Exactly, and who do you think benefits more from that $1,000,000? The legacy admit, or the many dozens of students who are supported by donations and full-pay every year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think in the varsity blues scandal, they paid like $250,000 to get a kid in. You’d need to give like $5-10 million to be a rando large donor and get your kid in.

+1

True. I have seen it - about $10m for an "athlete". Also, what happens WHEN (not if) your kid finds out you had to pay to get them into that school??

Gross.

Let your kid live THEIR life, not yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think in the varsity blues scandal, they paid like $250,000 to get a kid in. You’d need to give like $5-10 million to be a rando large donor and get your kid in.

+1

True. I have seen it - about $10m for an "athlete". Also, what happens WHEN (not if) your kid finds out you had to pay to get them into that school??

Gross.

Let your kid live THEIR life, not yours.

And whatever you do, don't try to claim you are an "alum" - because people aren't as stupid as you want them to be.

[Anonymous]

My sister works in high donor development at a university and she said 7 figures to get moved to considered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Know of someone who's a legacy at Dartmouth, donated a million the year before son applied via his foundation, son got in. If that's enough for Dartmouth, 250k is probably enough for most schools.

We have no idea what the son’s credentials were. He could be a standout applicant and the donation sealed the deal.

Or not. Nevertheless seven figures is also what it takes to get Harvard to sit up and pay attention

+1 Jared Kushner’s family paid 2.5 mn to get him in and that was decades ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think in the varsity blues scandal, they paid like $250,000 to get a kid in. You’d need to give like $5-10 million to be a rando large donor and get your kid in.

+1

True. I have seen it - about $10m for an "athlete". Also, what happens WHEN (not if) your kid finds out you had to pay to get them into that school??

Gross.

Let your kid live THEIR life, not yours.

And whatever you do, don't try to claim you are an "alum" - because people aren't as stupid as you want them to be.

I’m a Harvard Law alum, and not stupid, and, yes, it’s 7 digits for the undergrad school, which we didn’t have, so high stats kid didn’t get in. Now if he had been URM or first generation he might have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think in the varsity blues scandal, they paid like $250,000 to get a kid in. You’d need to give like $5-10 million to be a rando large donor and get your kid in.

+1

True. I have seen it - about $10m for an "athlete". Also, what happens WHEN (not if) your kid finds out you had to pay to get them into that school??

Gross.

Let your kid live THEIR life, not yours.

And whatever you do, don't try to claim you are an "alum" - because people aren't as stupid as you want them to be.

I’m a Harvard Law alum, and not stupid, and, yes, it’s 7 digits for the undergrad school, which we didn’t have, so high stats kid didn’t get in. Now if he had been URM or first generation he might have.

Life is so hard for you. Thoughts and prayers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think in the varsity blues scandal, they paid like $250,000 to get a kid in. You’d need to give like $5-10 million to be a rando large donor and get your kid in.

+1

True. I have seen it - about $10m for an "athlete". Also, what happens WHEN (not if) your kid finds out you had to pay to get them into that school??

Gross.

Let your kid live THEIR life, not yours.

And whatever you do, don't try to claim you are an "alum" - because people aren't as stupid as you want them to be.

I’m a Harvard Law alum, and not stupid, and, yes, it’s 7 digits for the undergrad school, which we didn’t have, so high stats kid didn’t get in. Now if he had been URM or first generation he might have.

Life is so hard for you. Thoughts and prayers.

You were the one who started with the insults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Know of someone who's a legacy at Dartmouth, donated a million the year before son applied via his foundation, son got in. If that's enough for Dartmouth, 250k is probably enough for most schools.

You have the analytic skills of a five year old.