Who is behind Clean Slate MoCo?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been following them? I can’t say I’m a fan of anyone who stays completely anonymous and fires shots into local races. How is this legal? Looks like they have funding. Don’t they have to register as a PAC?

How ironic that you're posting this anonymously. What's your PAC?

I'm not sure why you think they have "funding." It's a basic Wordpress site on a cheap web host. And a twitter account.

It doesn’t look like Wordpress to me. They’re sending questionnaires to candidates. They look organized to me.
https://cleanslatemoco.com/

Clean Slate claims to be run by a single person using their own money. If true, the site does not need to file disclosures. That’s unlike the anti-Elrich site run by a number of Riemer supporters who are close to the development lobby. That site, which puts out a lot of misleading info about the CE, should be disclosing.

What exactly is misleading about the anti-Elrich site? Everything I read is true. Now, things they point out may not be particularly important in some circumstances, but it's all true as far as I can tell.

DP but who’s responsible for housing policy? The CE or the Council? The CE has little to no role in housing in this county. You wouldn’t know that listening to those ethically challenged weirdos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been following them? I can’t say I’m a fan of anyone who stays completely anonymous and fires shots into local races. How is this legal? Looks like they have funding. Don’t they have to register as a PAC?

How ironic that you're posting this anonymously. What's your PAC?

I'm not sure why you think they have "funding." It's a basic Wordpress site on a cheap web host. And a twitter account.

It doesn’t look like Wordpress to me. They’re sending questionnaires to candidates. They look organized to me.
https://cleanslatemoco.com/

Clean Slate claims to be run by a single person using their own money. If true, the site does not need to file disclosures. That’s unlike the anti-Elrich site run by a number of Riemer supporters who are close to the development lobby. That site, which puts out a lot of misleading info about the CE, should be disclosing.

What exactly is misleading about the anti-Elrich site? Everything I read is true. Now, things they point out may not be particularly important in some circumstances, but it's all true as far as I can tell.

Some of the information is true. A lot of it is misleading. Sometimes the site lies by omission. That’s how disinformation works, and that site is a disinformation campaign.

For example: Would it change the perception of Elrich’s comments about renters if the site explained that Elrich made those statements during remarks on the importance of housing stability for renters? Elrich cares about people having stable housing, but that often involves renter protections that the developer crowd doesn’t like. Or would it change your perception of Elrich’s comments about people living closer to work if the site explained that Elrich was arguing against a second river crossing when he made them?

Also, as the PP said, the one lie that runs throughout the site is that the CE sets land use policy. That’s actually the council. If you don’t like land use or don’t think there’s enough housing, blame sitting councilmembers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been following them? I can’t say I’m a fan of anyone who stays completely anonymous and fires shots into local races. How is this legal? Looks like they have funding. Don’t they have to register as a PAC?

How ironic that you're posting this anonymously. What's your PAC?

I'm not sure why you think they have "funding." It's a basic Wordpress site on a cheap web host. And a twitter account.

It doesn’t look like Wordpress to me. They’re sending questionnaires to candidates. They look organized to me.
https://cleanslatemoco.com/

Clean Slate claims to be run by a single person using their own money. If true, the site does not need to file disclosures. That’s unlike the anti-Elrich site run by a number of Riemer supporters who are close to the development lobby. That site, which puts out a lot of misleading info about the CE, should be disclosing.

They at least sign their names! You can clearly see who is behind the anti-Elrich site.

[Anonymous]

Founders and supporters. Listed right here: http://notmarcelrich.org/we-agree/

Not one name attached to clean slate MoCo. Shady AF.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been following them? I can’t say I’m a fan of anyone who stays completely anonymous and fires shots into local races. How is this legal? Looks like they have funding. Don’t they have to register as a PAC?

How ironic that you're posting this anonymously. What's your PAC?

I'm not sure why you think they have "funding." It's a basic Wordpress site on a cheap web host. And a twitter account.

It doesn’t look like Wordpress to me. They’re sending questionnaires to candidates. They look organized to me.
https://cleanslatemoco.com/

Clean Slate claims to be run by a single person using their own money. If true, the site does not need to file disclosures. That’s unlike the anti-Elrich site run by a number of Riemer supporters who are close to the development lobby. That site, which puts out a lot of misleading info about the CE, should be disclosing.

They at least sign their names! You can clearly see who is behind the anti-Elrich site.

I recognize some of the School Board candidates from a FB page that was formed to help gather support and testify in favor of opening up MCPS (much earlier than the school system did) and otherwise refocusing MCPS. Their answers are good and I’ll probably vote for every single one on School Board. The County Exec hatchet job page against Marc Elrich is supported in part by “The Honorable” Nancy Floreen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Founders and supporters. Listed right here: http://notmarcelrich.org/we-agree/

Not one name attached to clean slate MoCo. Shady AF.

This is such a funny complaint. It must mean that whoever they are, what they are doing is working.

[Anonymous]

Copy/paste from the site:


About

This site does not endorse any candidates.
It endorses voting out all elected officials that are running for re-election.

This site is not liberal or conservative.
It values holding all elected officials accountable.

This site is not sponsored by nor does it receive any funding from candidates.
It is run by a concerned citizen, on their own dime and time.

Mission

Inform voters in Montgomery County of currently elected public officials that are running for re-election, and encourage voters hold them accountable by voting them out.
Vision

A brand new group of elected officials in Montgomery County that lead us into a brighter future.

Seems fine to me. The sad thing is that there are no opposing candidates to actually qualified to replace the clowns who currently run this county. Apparently no one who can competently run a government organization wants to run our local government. So all we are left with is a parade of clowns who bend the knee to the cackling interest groups and outside funded think tanks while ignoring 90% of county residents.

Can't wait to see what the county will be like in 10 years.

[Anonymous]

Some interesting new stories on that site in the past week.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been following them? I can’t say I’m a fan of anyone who stays completely anonymous and fires shots into local races. How is this legal? Looks like they have funding. Don’t they have to register as a PAC?

How ironic that you're posting this anonymously. What's your PAC?

I'm not sure why you think they have "funding." It's a basic Wordpress site on a cheap web host. And a twitter account.

It doesn’t look like Wordpress to me. They’re sending questionnaires to candidates. They look organized to me.
https://cleanslatemoco.com/

Clean Slate claims to be run by a single person using their own money. If true, the site does not need to file disclosures. That’s unlike the anti-Elrich site run by a number of Riemer supporters who are close to the development lobby. That site, which puts out a lot of misleading info about the CE, should be disclosing.

What exactly is misleading about the anti-Elrich site? Everything I read is true. Now, things they point out may not be particularly important in some circumstances, but it's all true as far as I can tell.

Some of the information is true. A lot of it is misleading. Sometimes the site lies by omission. That’s how disinformation works, and that site is a disinformation campaign.

For example: Would it change the perception of Elrich’s comments about renters if the site explained that Elrich made those statements during remarks on the importance of housing stability for renters? Elrich cares about people having stable housing, but that often involves renter protections that the developer crowd doesn’t like. Or would it change your perception of Elrich’s comments about people living closer to work if the site explained that Elrich was arguing against a second river crossing when he made them?

Also, as the PP said, the one lie that runs throughout the site is that the CE sets land use policy. That’s actually the council. If you don’t like land use or don’t think there’s enough housing, blame sitting councilmembers.

Now I think you're being a little misleading, or at best splitting hairs on a technicality. Both CE and council affect and set land use policy. CE can make recommendations as part of the budget, which council approves? CE can also certainly espouse his views publicly, which can affect the way the council votes because some members draw on the same vocal support base. One councilmember said it best at a recent council meeting (paraphrased): CE is like the dad that says yes we can do everything and it's up to the council to be the mom that says no we can't afford to do this or that, and we're not going to be able to go to disney this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been following them? I can’t say I’m a fan of anyone who stays completely anonymous and fires shots into local races. How is this legal? Looks like they have funding. Don’t they have to register as a PAC?

How ironic that you're posting this anonymously. What's your PAC?

I'm not sure why you think they have "funding." It's a basic Wordpress site on a cheap web host. And a twitter account.

It doesn’t look like Wordpress to me. They’re sending questionnaires to candidates. They look organized to me.
https://cleanslatemoco.com/

Clean Slate claims to be run by a single person using their own money. If true, the site does not need to file disclosures. That’s unlike the anti-Elrich site run by a number of Riemer supporters who are close to the development lobby. That site, which puts out a lot of misleading info about the CE, should be disclosing.

What exactly is misleading about the anti-Elrich site? Everything I read is true. Now, things they point out may not be particularly important in some circumstances, but it's all true as far as I can tell.

Some of the information is true. A lot of it is misleading. Sometimes the site lies by omission. That’s how disinformation works, and that site is a disinformation campaign.

For example: Would it change the perception of Elrich’s comments about renters if the site explained that Elrich made those statements during remarks on the importance of housing stability for renters? Elrich cares about people having stable housing, but that often involves renter protections that the developer crowd doesn’t like. Or would it change your perception of Elrich’s comments about people living closer to work if the site explained that Elrich was arguing against a second river crossing when he made them?

Also, as the PP said, the one lie that runs throughout the site is that the CE sets land use policy. That’s actually the council. If you don’t like land use or don’t think there’s enough housing, blame sitting councilmembers.

Now I think you're being a little misleading, or at best splitting hairs on a technicality. Both CE and council affect and set land use policy. CE can make recommendations as part of the budget, which council approves? CE can also certainly espouse his views publicly, which can affect the way the council votes because some members draw on the same vocal support base. One councilmember said it best at a recent council meeting (paraphrased): CE is like the dad that says yes we can do everything and it's up to the council to be the mom that says no we can't afford to do this or that, and we're not going to be able to go to disney this year.

You don’t understand local government in Montgomery County very well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Founders and supporters. Listed right here: http://notmarcelrich.org/we-agree/

Not one name attached to clean slate MoCo. Shady AF.

Fair Enough

But on the flip side, I'm friends with someone who was active in the OpenMCPS group, and they were open/honest with their name. And they got ALOT of vitriol, including anonymous messages sent to them vaguely threatening their kids.

So, I do understand CleanSlate's desire to be anonymous

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been following them? I can’t say I’m a fan of anyone who stays completely anonymous and fires shots into local races. How is this legal? Looks like they have funding. Don’t they have to register as a PAC?

Don't know but if the council passes El Rich's tax hike, I'm all for a clean slate.

[Anonymous]

This article by “Ryan” is a window into the ideology of CleanSlate:

“I’ve been studying the “woke” (critical social justice) movement since the Evergreen State riots in 2017. I have always identified as a classic liberal, and I still do. I am self-employed, and one could easily argue that I work in the progress business; I earn more when my clients do well, less and sometimes none when they don’t. My entire adult life, “live, and let live,” would have described my politics. Until 2020.

Living in Montgomery County it became very clear that there were some who were allowed to “live,” and some who weren’t, AND, if you were one of us that weren’t preoccupied with wiping down our fruit with Clorox wipes before removing our N95’s, it was VERY clear who was allowed to “live,” and who wasn’t. “Live the way we tell you to, you don’t need to know why,” was NOT something, growing up in a deep red military baptist household, I was fond of. I was confused, I felt abandoned by my fellow liberals, and I dug deeper into researching why I was confused. Why weren’t words seeming to mean what the book in my house with dictionary on the front says they mean?

Now here we are.

This is the first part of a social justice dictionary to help you understand what those who govern us, and those who teach our children mean when they use these words. These are NOT buzzwords. Sitting behind each word like, “equity,” or, “antiracist,” is a theory to better the behavior of humans in the eyes of humanity PhD’s loaded with academic language, and a plan to inject it into society. The words themselves sound good to most good-hearted people. However, when you see the theories in practice one can begin to see how the words have been misaligned and redefined. The Webster’s dictionary definition is how the ideas win support. You are sold the promise of restoration, and you receive the very opposite.

Woke: Is an adjective to describe a person who is aware of, and has a pathological like (resembling mental illness) sensitivity to systemic oppression that philosophers in social science claim to exist in regards to race, gender, ethnicity, disability, age, etc…”

Sounds like a Republican to me.

[Anonymous]

Who cares if the guy(s) are Republican sounding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article by “Ryan” is a window into the ideology of CleanSlate:

“I’ve been studying the “woke” (critical social justice) movement since the Evergreen State riots in 2017. I have always identified as a classic liberal, and I still do. I am self-employed, and one could easily argue that I work in the progress business; I earn more when my clients do well, less and sometimes none when they don’t. My entire adult life, “live, and let live,” would have described my politics. Until 2020.

Living in Montgomery County it became very clear that there were some who were allowed to “live,” and some who weren’t, AND, if you were one of us that weren’t preoccupied with wiping down our fruit with Clorox wipes before removing our N95’s, it was VERY clear who was allowed to “live,” and who wasn’t. “Live the way we tell you to, you don’t need to know why,” was NOT something, growing up in a deep red military baptist household, I was fond of. I was confused, I felt abandoned by my fellow liberals, and I dug deeper into researching why I was confused. Why weren’t words seeming to mean what the book in my house with dictionary on the front says they mean?

Now here we are.

This is the first part of a social justice dictionary to help you understand what those who govern us, and those who teach our children mean when they use these words. These are NOT buzzwords. Sitting behind each word like, “equity,” or, “antiracist,” is a theory to better the behavior of humans in the eyes of humanity PhD’s loaded with academic language, and a plan to inject it into society. The words themselves sound good to most good-hearted people. However, when you see the theories in practice one can begin to see how the words have been misaligned and redefined. The Webster’s dictionary definition is how the ideas win support. You are sold the promise of restoration, and you receive the very opposite.

Woke: Is an adjective to describe a person who is aware of, and has a pathological like (resembling mental illness) sensitivity to systemic oppression that philosophers in social science claim to exist in regards to race, gender, ethnicity, disability, age, etc…”

Sounds like a Republican to me.

if they toss around the term woke you can bet it's regressive propaganda