lol congrats on choosing an anti-democratic school for your child. |
| Can you write to OSSE? |
What is OSSE going to do about it? |
The school, OSSE, will not change. You can't have those expectations or you are foolish. Make your exit plan and find another school situation (private, move, lottery) ASAP. |
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Yes, it is a warped interpretation of restorative justice. We experienced it too. If a child is disruptive (in the older grades this takes the form of throwing chairs, dishes, etc) the child isn't made to leave the classroom. All of the other kids are asked to leave, and their learning is further disrupted. Kids threw big rocks on the playgrounds. One threw a laptop out the window. Some sent threatening notes to other students. The focus is on protecting and not shaming the perpetrator, to the detriment of the victim and the learning environment.
I'm sorry, OP, that you're experiencing this. We stuck it out for a while and left eventually, just like all of the other founding families we knew. Good luck! |
| I’m so sorry for your experience but this sounds exactly like my child’s experience in 2nd grade at the Cook campus, although there was not as much teacher turnover during the year. We got lucky in the lottery that year (thanks COVID) and were able to move to a much better immersion school. It’s unfortunate that things have not improved. |
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i feel so sad for the families that are lured in based on the rumors and false pictures painted during the open houses.
MV (and maybe other charters) need to be held to account for making false claims. During the MV open house, I remember an elaborate slide show of photos from field trips to Rock Creek Park (though I think they haven't been there in many many years), and our tour guide, when asked what the teacher turnover rate was, said something along the lines of "teachers are very happy and rarely leave." At the Bancroft DCPS open house when someone asked an identical question, the principal pulled out the data and said "86%" it makes it so hard for parents to get a clear idea of what kind of school they are entering when the open houses are full of exaggerations and falsehoods... then you end up with someone like OP feeling so devasted. I have so many friends who entered MV with such high hopes and they are ALL gone now, and left very disgusted and disappointed. How can this school be held to account? |
There is really no accountability for charters short of egregiously bad test scores or outright fraud. But if MV parents would stop defending it and tell prospective parents the actual truth, that might help by damaging the school enough that the board intervenes. |
| They can’t be held to account. Families have been trying for years. There is just no accountability in the charter system. Mundo Verde’s reputation is getting out in the community, which is why they’re clearing waitlists in Kindergarten and up. |
This isn't limited to MV. We're at a different charter and the school has made it very clear that the safety of the children isn't as important as making sure violent kids don't feel bad about themselves. DCPS as a whole makes it near impossible to suspend kids. |
This is such a tired and worn out line of thought. As if DCPS Central was all over underperforming schools, admins and teachers. Remember a few years ago when a JO Teacher was abusing and bullying kids and after much public outcry there was a public hearing where students bravely stood up and spoke about their experiences, and DCPS moved the teacher to SH...where those bullied kids were going to be! One could argue that at least with charters there is accountability because if enrollment drops they lose money. DCPS schools are not punished for enrollment. |
I think this is true across all of DCPS and charters. "Restorative Justice" means worrying more about the actor than his/her victim. To the extent there is any concern shown towards the victim, that concept of victim is narrowly construed to mean only the kids who was the recipient of violence and not all of the other kids who witnessed it. I understand the focus to ensure that suspensions and discipline are not disproportionately dispensed to black and brown kids (we know it is) but the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction where we are falling all over ourselves to pat ourselves on the back to show how enlightened we are by holding no behavior to account. |
In DCPS funding is connected to enrollment, just not on a tight per capita basis. But there absolutely is a financial consequence for enrollment loss. DCPS also has an ombudsperson, Instructional Superintendents, the LSAT groups, and sometimes more powerful PTOs than charters have. And DCPS leadership can fire the principal and APs if it wants to. At charters the board of the charter itself has some power but there aren't a lot of other places to turn. |
Plus political pressure if someone starts tagging Bowser on Twitter. It seems silly, but it’s effective. And “it also happens elsewhere!” isn’t particularly relevant on a thread about what can be done at this charter. The suggestions to go to the charter board and OSSE are well intentioned, but bad advice. Because charters just don’t have accountability until test scores and enrollment numbers get egregiously bad. |
Exactly. Yes, restorative justice is found across DCPS, but what really matters is how it is implemented, what sort of relationship the school personnel have with the kids. You can't build that bond with turn over like you have at MV and a complete absence of leadership and support. |