Agree. Work experience, internships, drive, and luck help. |
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/does-it-matter-where-you-go-college/577816/
"Research suggests that elite colleges don’t really help rich white guys. But they can have a big effect if you’re not rich, not white, or not a guy." |
Exactly! People always say well Bill Gates, Mark Z. etc. dropped out of college ...see how well they did. But, they are both white men who enjoy the privileges only white men enjoy. |
Probably depends what you do. I'm 45 and have been in the same profession since I was 20. I graduated when I was 23. Nobody has ever asked me where I went to college since I was 23 or 24. |
depends how smart you are. I am barely average. But I have a lot of degrees, certifications and make a great living. Without that I be screwed |
I honestly think hustle and networking over college every time. |
Once you get your foot in the door with your first job, college does not matter at all. |
Agreed, college helps you get the first job. There is some advantage to starting at a higher salary/title out of school that lasts long term. But most sink or swim regardless after that first job. I’ve worked with Harvard grads the are middle management and no name schools that are in the c-suite, it’s all work ethic, smarts, drive, and luck after. |
I present well, lie about my education, and have yet to be found out.
It doesn't matter if you know how to look, behave, and link with the right people. |
I work with a woman who waves her degrees in my face frequently. I am younger, further along in my career, make more money, and less educated. I remain quiet when she boasts, because it's not my place to expose that the joke is on her. |
Lie about what of your education? |
I know someone who did this and was a VP at a major commercial real estate holdings firm in nyc. She told them she had a college degree when she dropped out. They never found out and she went on to found her own real estate brokerage firm |
it will open doors that wouldn't have opened otherwise, but it won't necessarily teach you what you need to know to be a good employee. Work ethic is important, being trainable, eager to learn, able to admit when you're wrong, problem solve, know how to learn etc are all the things that matter most, but in some jobs it won't matter w/o the degree. |
Too easy to find out. |
The vast majority of DCUMers overestimate the impact of a ‘good’ school. The majority of those same people tout their average upbringings in working class households, failing to realize that they themselves achieved success despite not going to all top tier schools. This basically shows that they think no one but themselves have any agency, including their children, and need to be spoonfed to the ‘best’ to ensure their success.
This also ensure their kids have less charm and charisma then they did or their children's peers |