What’s the current status on WFH?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ya done effed up WFH y'all.. low productivity and all around whinging has caused WFH to become another pandemic legend

I started a 100% remote job in late November. I already won two awards and got promoted.

So please tell me again about how my productivity is low?

If you got two “awards” since November: peak Millennial



Now if you talked about what you accomplished, I would be interested

[Anonymous]

I am still WFH mode until June. Then have to go in one day a week. Still not too bad.

[Anonymous]

If there were data that proved that work from home hurt productivity and the office environment, we would have seen it by now, right? But we haven’t. The truth is most people love work from home and make it work for them, but it’s obviously too costly to certain business interests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll preface this with I’m a millennial and mother of 1 toddler at the SM/AD level. I’ve been interviewing with several companies at the F500 level and a few small shops. Based off the conversations I have had and the things i see here and linked in, more and more companies are being strong armed into accepting remote workers. (Anecdotally) This is in direct contrast to my experiences over the last couple of months interviewing and networking. It seems companies are telling people they’ve adopted hybrid models but still expect about 50+% work from office OR fully in office.

Is this ‘everyone will wfh’ banter being blown out of proportion? Am I self-selecting to companies who are more likely to expect office work? Trying to understand because I’ve loved being able to do more than ‘water cooler’ talks during downtimes at work

Aka I like doing my chores, gym workouts, etc on company time.

Everyone will not WFH. A larger portion of the populous will work from home more often than they did pre-pandemic. Private companies have more leeway on their policies because there are no shareholders to report to at the end of each quarter. As profits drop, more companies will call employees back to the office.

Many companies are hybrid in that they allow partial WFH arrangements, mostly just to keep the employees happy, not really because it's what is best for the business.

HAHAHAHA! I mean yes, my husband does take the laundry to the basement, where his office it, and starts it when he starts work. We're both remote and noticed we both work more than when we did when we went into the office. It's far easier to overwork as you don't have to leave at a set time. I need to bill at least 7 hours a day, I typically get 8-9. DH is easily 8-10 most days. I'm sure some people slack of course, but not all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If there were data that proved that work from home hurt productivity and the office environment, we would have seen it by now, right? But we haven’t. The truth is most people love work from home and make it work for them, but it’s obviously too costly to certain business interests.

Meaning office real estate. Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If there were data that proved that work from home hurt productivity and the office environment, we would have seen it by now, right? But we haven’t. The truth is most people love work from home and make it work for them, but it’s obviously too costly to certain business interests.

This, 100%. I think alot of the older crowd was against WFH pre-pandemic because they just assumed that if you're not in the office, you're not doing any work at all. However, 2+ years is a pretty big sample size to determine that is not true, as if it was, wouldn't companies be failing left and right?

[Anonymous]

What is SM/AD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My companies have policies that differ unit to unit, depending on the responsibilities of particular teams. My team is able to be fully remote and, given the varied locations of my teammates, there would be no point in us going into a location, only to have no teammates there. Other teams really need to be in person. It varies hugely.

+1 This is how it has been at my current organization and my former one. It is up to the individual senior leader/VP what the WFH requirements are for each particular group and team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there were data that proved that work from home hurt productivity and the office environment, we would have seen it by now, right? But we haven’t. The truth is most people love work from home and make it work for them, but it’s obviously too costly to certain business interests.

This, 100%. I think alot of the older crowd was against WFH pre-pandemic because they just assumed that if you're not in the office, you're not doing any work at all. However, 2+ years is a pretty big sample size to determine that is not true, as if it was, wouldn't companies be failing left and right?

Again these 2 years are NOT representative. We were locked into our houses more or less.

We will start with hybrid and see how people do with a more normal WFH environment and hopefully it will grow.

Employees willful ignorance that this forced test is meaningless weakens your position

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there were data that proved that work from home hurt productivity and the office environment, we would have seen it by now, right? But we haven’t. The truth is most people love work from home and make it work for them, but it’s obviously too costly to certain business interests.

This, 100%. I think alot of the older crowd was against WFH pre-pandemic because they just assumed that if you're not in the office, you're not doing any work at all. However, 2+ years is a pretty big sample size to determine that is not true, as if it was, wouldn't companies be failing left and right?

Lots of productivity gains were from skeleton crews skewing the number.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/24/working-home-productivity-pandemic-remote/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ya done effed up WFH y'all.. low productivity and all around whinging has caused WFH to become another pandemic legend

Not at my company. Other than March 2020, goals were hit and exceeded every month. The bonuses for 2021 were some of the highest issued.

My office is switching to permanent WFH. They are riding out their current lease at our building in Tyson's. Anyone who wants to go to the office can. I've gone twice for meetings and both times there was less than 10 people in the office.

TBH, from an executive standpoint, we get more work and productivity out of employees who WFH. They often start working earlier since there's no commute involved and they work later, too. I get sent the logs every week for the team I manage. I give them a glance but don't scrutinize them. If someone needs to take 2 hours during the day to do life stuff and be away from work, that's fine by me. I don't scrutinize time logged in unless there's a question of productivity. Things have been good thus far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya done effed up WFH y'all.. low productivity and all around whinging has caused WFH to become another pandemic legend

Not at my company. Other than March 2020, goals were hit and exceeded every month. The bonuses for 2021 were some of the highest issued.

My office is switching to permanent WFH. They are riding out their current lease at our building in Tyson's. Anyone who wants to go to the office can. I've gone twice for meetings and both times there was less than 10 people in the office.

TBH, from an executive standpoint, we get more work and productivity out of employees who WFH. They often start working earlier since there's no commute involved and they work later, too. I get sent the logs every week for the team I manage. I give them a glance but don't scrutinize them. If someone needs to take 2 hours during the day to do life stuff and be away from work, that's fine by me. I don't scrutinize time logged in unless there's a question of productivity. Things have been good thus far.

Exactly, as long as people are willing to essentially convert commute time into work time and work 10 hr days, it can probably persist. But that's simply hours worked -- there is also innovaton, problem solving, resilience to the org as people leave that need novel approaches in a WFH world. Most places haven't implemented that -- but for instance a weekly offsite to get the team together for some food and brainstorming could fill those gaps. But everyone toiling away at their widgits at home is fragile and coasting off the work of building and training prior to the pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya done effed up WFH y'all.. low productivity and all around whinging has caused WFH to become another pandemic legend

I started a 100% remote job in late November. I already won two awards and got promoted.

So please tell me again about how my productivity is low?

If you got two “awards” since November: peak Millennial



Now if you talked about what you accomplished, I would be interested

As a millennial, just pay me. I don't care about awards or promotions.
If you can't pay up, then let me slack off on some Fridays...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is SM/AD?

Senior manager/associate director

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya done effed up WFH y'all.. low productivity and all around whinging has caused WFH to become another pandemic legend

I started a 100% remote job in late November. I already won two awards and got promoted.

So please tell me again about how my productivity is low?

If you got two “awards” since November: peak Millennial



Now if you talked about what you accomplished, I would be interested

Getting a promotion is an accomplishment