Kennedy St NW shootings and crime 4eva

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kennedy has been gentrifying for nearly 20 years. My friend was beat into a multi-day coma outside his rowhouse right off Kennedy over a decade ago in the middle of a weekday afternoon by multiple teens.

That street ain’t ever going to change.

This suggests also that gentrification isn't solving the crime issue in this setting. I wonder what will happen to the abundance of new condos that are being built on Kennedy. Also, given those condos, I would expect the developers to care about the crime, even if no one else does.

Gentrification makes crime worse before it makes it better.

There is a middle period, which we're in right now, where there is enough of the "old neighborhood" to continue the dealing and shooting, but fewer and fewer customers (yuppies don't tend to buy their drugs on the corner) which causes even more intense competition between crews.

Unfortunately large public housing complexes that remain in nearly entirely gentrified neighborhoods (Columbia Heights, I'm looking at you) act as reservoirs for these crews where they can remain in enough concentration to stay active whereas without them they would have been dispersed enough to have to dissolve.

Get rid of the projects and disperse the residents into new, unconcentrated housing throughout the city and you'll solve the gang/drug violence situation.

[Anonymous]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/30/officer-shooting-mpd-brightwood/

"Saturday’s confrontation came just after police responded to reports of an exchange of gunfire between people in cars and on foot near Georgia Avenue and Longfellow Street, Benedict said.

The two people shot in that incident suffered wounds that were not thought to be life-threatening, Benedict said.

The double shooting occurred near the Kennedy Street NW corridor, where violent incidents in recent years prompted calls for increased police protection."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kennedy has been gentrifying for nearly 20 years. My friend was beat into a multi-day coma outside his rowhouse right off Kennedy over a decade ago in the middle of a weekday afternoon by multiple teens.

That street ain’t ever going to change.

This suggests also that gentrification isn't solving the crime issue in this setting. I wonder what will happen to the abundance of new condos that are being built on Kennedy. Also, given those condos, I would expect the developers to care about the crime, even if no one else does.

Gentrification makes crime worse before it makes it better.

There is a middle period, which we're in right now, where there is enough of the "old neighborhood" to continue the dealing and shooting, but fewer and fewer customers (yuppies don't tend to buy their drugs on the corner) which causes even more intense competition between crews.

Unfortunately large public housing complexes that remain in nearly entirely gentrified neighborhoods (Columbia Heights, I'm looking at you) act as reservoirs for these crews where they can remain in enough concentration to stay active whereas without them they would have been dispersed enough to have to dissolve.

Get rid of the projects and disperse the residents into new, unconcentrated housing throughout the city and you'll solve the gang/drug violence situation.

This is a myth.

[Anonymous]

Used to live a few blocks from here. My DH and I loved it. Great neighbors, great parks nearby, lots to do, etc. The crime just go untenable. It felt like it was everywhere. I was picking up my DS from daycare and heard a gunshot less than 2 blocks away. We moved shortly after.

Doesn't seem like anything is being done on a community or city level. There were multiple reports filed from neighbors or friends of violent incidents with a particular person or group. The police could do nothing about it even when violence was threatened to a group of children, at a playground, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop buying your smoke from the local sellers and then complain about the crime. There's no crime around the smoke store in brookland.

So if I don't complain about crime, the shootings will stop? Ah yes, perfection.

It’s going to take a while for all recent years of the social justice activists clamoring to “tackle the root causes of poverty and treat crime reduction in a holistic and sensitive manner” to understand that wow maybe we should actually arrest and prosecute violent criminals rather than coddle them. But then again they will probably never wise up and just blame the issues on gentrifiers who “should just live with it or move to the suburbs!”. I mean they’re right. It’s a city, so I obviously, anyone with a family should automatically understand that sort of life their life accordingly.

We are a super progressive city with super progressive criminal policy and it’s great! It’s so safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Used to live a few blocks from here. My DH and I loved it. Great neighbors, great parks nearby, lots to do, etc. The crime just go untenable. It felt like it was everywhere. I was picking up my DS from daycare and heard a gunshot less than 2 blocks away. We moved shortly after.

Doesn't seem like anything is being done on a community or city level. There were multiple reports filed from neighbors or friends of violent incidents with a particular person or group. The police could do nothing about it even when violence was threatened to a group of children, at a playground, etc.

Are you saying Nadeau is not probably addressing the issue???? Or Charles Allen? But they paid $9m for violence interruptors!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kennedy has been gentrifying for nearly 20 years. My friend was beat into a multi-day coma outside his rowhouse right off Kennedy over a decade ago in the middle of a weekday afternoon by multiple teens.

That street ain’t ever going to change.

This suggests also that gentrification isn't solving the crime issue in this setting. I wonder what will happen to the abundance of new condos that are being built on Kennedy. Also, given those condos, I would expect the developers to care about the crime, even if no one else does.

Gentrification makes crime worse before it makes it better.

There is a middle period, which we're in right now, where there is enough of the "old neighborhood" to continue the dealing and shooting, but fewer and fewer customers (yuppies don't tend to buy their drugs on the corner) which causes even more intense competition between crews.

Unfortunately large public housing complexes that remain in nearly entirely gentrified neighborhoods (Columbia Heights, I'm looking at you) act as reservoirs for these crews where they can remain in enough concentration to stay active whereas without them they would have been dispersed enough to have to dissolve.

Get rid of the projects and disperse the residents into new, unconcentrated housing throughout the city and you'll solve the gang/drug violence situation.

Except the impetus is on preserving public housing because there is a dearth of affordable housing in DC. Look at Res 13. It will essentially be a glorified “mixed income” project when completed. I’m sure crime won’t be an issue.

[Anonymous]

I've never really understood why there is so much crime along Kennedy St. There's no obvious public housing along that stretch of road, compared to Columbia Heights, SW, and other DC neighborhoods. But there are constant shootings and murders around there.

I dated a woman who lived in Brightwood and would take the bus there all the time. I remember the proprietor of the party store at 14 and Colorado (at Kennedy) was murdered in a robbery on a July 4. In a neighborhood with nice houses and great park space

I don't get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've never really understood why there is so much crime along Kennedy St. There's no obvious public housing along that stretch of road, compared to Columbia Heights, SW, and other DC neighborhoods. But there are constant shootings and murders around there.

I dated a woman who lived in Brightwood and would take the bus there all the time. I remember the proprietor of the party store at 14 and Colorado (at Kennedy) was murdered in a robbery on a July 4. In a neighborhood with nice houses and great park space

I don't get it.

I don’t really get it either. There are also always a lot of police on Kennedy street. And these shootings still happen, often in broad daylight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Used to live a few blocks from here. My DH and I loved it. Great neighbors, great parks nearby, lots to do, etc. The crime just go untenable. It felt like it was everywhere. I was picking up my DS from daycare and heard a gunshot less than 2 blocks away. We moved shortly after.

Doesn't seem like anything is being done on a community or city level. There were multiple reports filed from neighbors or friends of violent incidents with a particular person or group. The police could do nothing about it even when violence was threatened to a group of children, at a playground, etc.

Are you saying Nadeau is not probably addressing the issue???? Or Charles Allen? But they paid $9m for violence interruptors!

This is Ward 4, so not Nadeau. Right now it’s Janeese Lewis George.

[Anonymous]

There’s no way I’d be a cop in DC. Absolutely no way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s no way I’d be a cop in DC. Absolutely no way.

You're right. I wouldn't want to get comfortable with killing unarmed suspects, either.