Do you know anyone who has actually been shut out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Considering that there are respectable, safety-for-all colleges still accepting applications, I don't think this is really a significant thing.

A student having an inadequate number or inappropriate safeties on their list is not really that interesting.

I don't think in current times it's hard to envision someone with what seems like an adequate number of appropriate safeties getting shut out of those . . . seemed to be a bit of a pattern of some safeties WL or rejecting kids who were likely too qualified, presumably because they weren't going to come there anyway.

Should this happen? No. Could it? Absolutely, even if you're applying to 6 safeties.

Right, but then they just apply to a school that does let them in. What's the difference if they apply before April 1st or after? We can't have a reaction to someone getting shut out if we don't know how realistic their list was. We can read into that fact and be shocked, but it's pretty meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of mine was shut out from Ivies, waitlisted to each Ivy he applied to, had two T20 offers (coveted half tuition merit award at one) and state with honors and full ride. Funny thing is that he is genuinely everything Ivy looks for. I think his Uber competitive public high school had too many good applicants and counselors were too overwhelmed and indifferent to care.

Your child was accepted to two T20 schools.

Your post is not relevant to this thread.

Being "shut out from Ivies" is not a surprising result for any student, unless DC is URM or FGS.

[Anonymous]

Not getting into any of the schools to which a kid applied by April is not the same as being "shut out." Lots of schools will admit anyone with a pulse and a bank account. And smart kids will thrive at any of those schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not getting into any of the schools to which a kid applied by April is not the same as being "shut out." Lots of schools will admit anyone with a pulse and a bank account. And smart kids will thrive at any of those schools.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haven't heard about complete shut outs, but many kids unhappy with their options. Mostly one or two tiers down from where they thought they'd be.

Which is a product of people on this forum "ranking' the various schools and obsessing about it.

[Anonymous]

Two of my kids are at Ivies, and we forced each of them to pick a school with 75%+ acceptance rate (those mostly have no app fee) just in case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two of my kids are at Ivies, and we forced each of them to pick a school with 75%+ acceptance rate (those mostly have no app fee) just in case.

*to apply to*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of mine was shut out from Ivies, waitlisted to each Ivy he applied to, had two T20 offers (coveted half tuition merit award at one) and state with honors and full ride. Funny thing is that he is genuinely everything Ivy looks for. I think his Uber competitive public high school had too many good applicants and counselors were too overwhelmed and indifferent to care.

You realize 98% of the applicants are "shut out from Ivies" right? Shut out from Ivies =/= shut out

[Anonymous]

I know a kid who was high performing in FCPS, then absolutely tanked junior year, which was DL. Smart, nice kid. Probably ADHD. Not admitted to his “safeties” of JMU, GMU, VCU engineering. He and his parents though colleges would overlook the COVID a disaster and they didn’t.

He’s probably taking the “second chance” route of NOVA guaranteed transfer.

I also know a kid admitted ED who sent a midterm transcript with 2Cs and a D. Put on notice by the college that their offer would be rescinded if the grades didn’t improve. Not quite the same process, but same end result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a kid who was high performing in FCPS, then absolutely tanked junior year, which was DL. Smart, nice kid. Probably ADHD. Not admitted to his “safeties” of JMU, GMU, VCU engineering. He and his parents though colleges would overlook the COVID a disaster and they didn’t.

He’s probably taking the “second chance” route of NOVA guaranteed transfer.

I also know a kid admitted ED who sent a midterm transcript with 2Cs and a D. Put on notice by the college that their offer would be rescinded if the grades didn’t improve. Not quite the same process, but same end result.

So the kid was rescinded?

[Anonymous]

A child of a colleague (asian female) applied only to ivies and Stanford against the advice of her parents and college counselor at her private. She was a great student but got shut out. Took a gap year. Ended up at Cornell the year after. Her parents were furious she did not apply to more schools but she wanted Ivy and was very headstrong (possibly somewhere on the spectrum?). Did research at NIH during happy year, obviously through a connection, and retook her SATs to improve from something like a 1560 to 1600.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A child of a colleague (asian female) applied only to ivies and Stanford against the advice of her parents and college counselor at her private. She was a great student but got shut out. Took a gap year. Ended up at Cornell the year after. Her parents were furious she did not apply to more schools but she wanted Ivy and was very headstrong (possibly somewhere on the spectrum?). Did research at NIH during happy year, obviously through a connection, and retook her SATs to improve from something like a 1560 to 1600.

Are there colleges that would care about that difference in SATs? I kind of assumed that once you're above 1500 the other aspects of your application are what make you stand out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A child of a colleague (asian female) applied only to ivies and Stanford against the advice of her parents and college counselor at her private. She was a great student but got shut out. Took a gap year. Ended up at Cornell the year after. Her parents were furious she did not apply to more schools but she wanted Ivy and was very headstrong (possibly somewhere on the spectrum?). Did research at NIH during happy year, obviously through a connection, and retook her SATs to improve from something like a 1560 to 1600.

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of mine was shut out from Ivies, waitlisted to each Ivy he applied to, had two T20 offers (coveted half tuition merit award at one) and state with honors and full ride. Funny thing is that he is genuinely everything Ivy looks for. I think his Uber competitive public high school had too many good applicants and counselors were too overwhelmed and indifferent to care.

Your child was accepted to two T20 schools.

Your post is not relevant to this thread.

Being "shut out from Ivies" is not a surprising result for any student, unless DC is URM or FGS.

+1

[Anonymous]

This post gives me hope. My DS decided late that he wanted to go to college. He’s applying to third tier schools (regional state schools, not flagship). We finished applying last week. How long until we can expect response?