Maryland Congressional Districts

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how Maryland has the most insane freakshow Congressional District maps in probably the entire country? How did they get that way? How is it legal? I don't even think Jackson Pollack could come up with patterns like the ones that make up MD Congressional Districts. What is the history behind them?

You haven't seen Texas and Ohio, I take it?

Why is gerrmandering bad for the Dems, but perfectly fine for the GOP? We should end ALL gerrymandering, but if the GOP is going to do it, then the Dems should be allowed to as well.

Dems gerrymander when they are in power in the states. They are equal opportunity offenders and frankly MD is not a terrible one. Current IL proposal by Dems is crazy but Chicago area has been gerrymandered for decades by the Dems. Most metro areas are gerrymandered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The answer is that whether Democrat or Republican, Maryland politics have always and historically been - and the Assembly in particular- one of the most corrupt in the country. We are talking centuries of corruption.

For example, until the state Constitution was amended by ballot initiative in 2020, Maryland was the only state in the country where the legislative branch did not have authority over the state budget. The Governor would propose a budget and the Assembly could only vote it up or down. They could not change or amend it. The voters of Maryland changed the Constitution in 1916 to take this power away from the Assembly because they were disgusted with the levels of corruption.

Also keep in Maryland that Maryland’s history of having state and local politicians go to prison is a decades long tradition that is unmatched. Our most successful statewide politician, Spiro Agnew, ended up in jail. More recently we have Mosby, Pugh, Dixon, Leopold, etc. It is not normal for a state to have so many corrupt officials. It’s baked into the political culture and DNA of Maryland just as much as Old Bay.

So it should surprise no one that Maryland has that most ridiculously and shamelessly gerrymandered Congressional districts in the country.

Illinois say: hold my beer

At least Illinois has Lincoln and Obama to call their own. Maryland has William Donald Schafer?

Those are the only two have haven't gone to our finely built politician prison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, they were normal until the Republicans started gerrymandering all those other aforementioned states after the 2000 census.

Connie Morella (R) was gerrymandered out in 2003. Roscoe Bartlett (R) was gerrymandered out in 2013. Don’t pretend both parties do do this. And Maryland Democrats are trying to gerrymander the last Republican congressman, Andy Harris, out of office.

Both parties absolutely do this. The Republicans have trifectas in way more states so they do it a lot more.

I have personally worked on campaigns against gerrymandering, but I would happily compromise my ethics if it would get Andy Harris out of office.

-One of his constituents

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how Maryland has the most insane freakshow Congressional District maps in probably the entire country? How did they get that way? How is it legal? I don't even think Jackson Pollack could come up with patterns like the ones that make up MD Congressional Districts. What is the history behind them?

You haven't seen Texas and Ohio, I take it?

Why is gerrmandering bad for the Dems, but perfectly fine for the GOP? We should end ALL gerrymandering, but if the GOP is going to do it, then the Dems should be allowed to as well.

Dems gerrymander when they are in power in the states. They are equal opportunity offenders and frankly MD is not a terrible one. Current IL proposal by Dems is crazy but Chicago area has been gerrymandered for decades by the Dems. Most metro areas are gerrymandered.

One party supports efforts to ban gerrymandering nationwide, the other opposes the effort

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how Maryland has the most insane freakshow Congressional District maps in probably the entire country? How did they get that way? How is it legal? I don't even think Jackson Pollack could come up with patterns like the ones that make up MD Congressional Districts. What is the history behind them?

You haven't seen Texas and Ohio, I take it?

Why is gerrmandering bad for the Dems, but perfectly fine for the GOP? We should end ALL gerrymandering, but if the GOP is going to do it, then the Dems should be allowed to as well.

Dems gerrymander when they are in power in the states. They are equal opportunity offenders and frankly MD is not a terrible one. Current IL proposal by Dems is crazy but Chicago area has been gerrymandered for decades by the Dems. Most metro areas are gerrymandered.

One party supports efforts to ban gerrymandering nationwide, the other opposes the effort

But this is the issue - dems say they oppose it yet have a freakshow for MD districts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, they were normal until the Republicans started gerrymandering all those other aforementioned states after the 2000 census.

Connie Morella (R) was gerrymandered out in 2003. Roscoe Bartlett (R) was gerrymandered out in 2013. Don’t pretend both parties do do this. And Maryland Democrats are trying to gerrymander the last Republican congressman, Andy Harris, out of office.

Both parties absolutely do this. The Republicans have trifectas in way more states so they do it a lot more.

I have personally worked on campaigns against gerrymandering, but I would happily compromise my ethics if it would get Andy Harris out of office.

-One of his constituents

+1000
I would be THRILLED with a federal anti-gerrymandering law. I've actually done a lot of lobbying to try and get one.
But short of that, I'm not going to be upset at Maryland. I've been gerrymandered out of Sarbanes district and into Andy Harris's. I can not WAIT to vote against that POS, and sure hope enough of my neighbors do too so that he'll be gone.
(And I actually voted for Gilcrest when I was previously in that district)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how Maryland has the most insane freakshow Congressional District maps in probably the entire country? How did they get that way? How is it legal? I don't even think Jackson Pollack could come up with patterns like the ones that make up MD Congressional Districts. What is the history behind them?

You haven't seen Texas and Ohio, I take it?

Why is gerrmandering bad for the Dems, but perfectly fine for the GOP? We should end ALL gerrymandering, but if the GOP is going to do it, then the Dems should be allowed to as well.

Dems gerrymander when they are in power in the states. They are equal opportunity offenders and frankly MD is not a terrible one. Current IL proposal by Dems is crazy but Chicago area has been gerrymandered for decades by the Dems. Most metro areas are gerrymandered.

One party supports efforts to ban gerrymandering nationwide, the other opposes the effort

But this is the issue - dems say they oppose it yet have a freakshow for MD districts.

This has been explained to you over and over. Democrats have stopped gerrymandering in a lot of their states - see California for example - but they are not going to stop entirely until there are the same rules against it for everybody else. Which they support.

[Anonymous]

Here OP, enjoy this for a while until we see what the Maryland Supreme Court does with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here OP, enjoy this for a while until we see what the Maryland Supreme Court does with it.

+ a million.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, they were normal until the Republicans started gerrymandering all those other aforementioned states after the 2000 census.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

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Thiis look so reasonable. I hope they adopt it.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

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I think the district should represent the people in it, so I’m not entirely upset by one being a solid Republican block. I think the registrict map looks reasonable.

I feel bad whoever was redistricted out of Sarbanes into Andy Harris’ district. That man is vile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, they were normal until the Republicans started gerrymandering all those other aforementioned states after the 2000 census.

Connie Morella (R) was gerrymandered out in 2003. Roscoe Bartlett (R) was gerrymandered out in 2013. Don’t pretend both parties do do this. And Maryland Democrats are trying to gerrymander the last Republican congressman, Andy Harris, out of office.

Both parties absolutely do this. The Republicans have trifectas in way more states so they do it a lot more.

I have personally worked on campaigns against gerrymandering, but I would happily compromise my ethics if it would get Andy Harris out of office.

-One of his constituents

+1000
I would be THRILLED with a federal anti-gerrymandering law. I've actually done a lot of lobbying to try and get one.
But short of that, I'm not going to be upset at Maryland. I've been gerrymandered out of Sarbanes district and into Andy Harris's. I can not WAIT to vote against that POS, and sure hope enough of my neighbors do too so that he'll be gone.
(And I actually voted for Gilcrest when I was previously in that district)

How is this constitutional?