Swimming: best way to drop time

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:(she wants to break a team record and she's close but it's still a few seconds away)

Wouldn't this be the case for basically every kid on the team?

No. She has the fastest 10U times by a lot.

PP here- She could be the next Ledecky or Gemmel, who were always super fast at any age- and didn't do things like outside stroke clinics- or she could be like a lot of swimmers who are fast at certain times then are not.

Pushing a 10yo is just a bad idea. As long as she goes to practice regularly and has a good attitude, the times will come. Overactive parenting really does't help anyone- yourself or your child

Thank you this is helpful! - OP

[Anonymous]

Last summer we went on vacation for a week and missed an entire week summer swim practice. We did have a pool at the rental house and my 9 y/o practiced flip turns during the week. I was expecting him to swim slower after missing practice for a week - but he ended dropping a few seconds when we got back because of finally getting the flip turns good.

Idk about your kid but mine is improving with technique help. He also dropped a lot of time when he breathed fewer times on 25fly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last summer we went on vacation for a week and missed an entire week summer swim practice. We did have a pool at the rental house and my 9 y/o practiced flip turns during the week. I was expecting him to swim slower after missing practice for a week - but he ended dropping a few seconds when we got back because of finally getting the flip turns good.

Idk about your kid but mine is improving with technique help. He also dropped a lot of time when he breathed fewer times on 25fly.

OP - I now read your additional comments & think your kid is pretty advanced already so you can ignore this LOL.

[Anonymous]

I was pretty good at age 10, then the other girls grew taller and stronger and left tiny me in their wake. I became a synchro swimmer.

Let her enjoy swimming now without pressure, and give her the opportunity to try other sports as well, the same way as Caeleb Dressel did. He even took an extended break in his teens.

When I was swimming, some of the best kids quit at age 12/13 because they were sick of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(she wants to break a team record and she's close but it's still a few seconds away)

Wouldn't this be the case for basically every kid on the team?

No. She has the fastest 10U times by a lot.

until next summer when the other u10 kids get a little more coordinated or things click. I 2 weeks my kid went form the slowest in 8 and under in a certain stroke to the 2nd fastest ---in the County it just happens and then they say they hate swimming and you move on. .

[Anonymous]

Has your kid talked to her coach to get feedback on improving in 2IM? She doesn't necessarily have to say she wants to break the record -- just that her goal is to drop time. The coach who sees your kid swim regularly and has seen her meet performance would know better than any one of us. Technical changes that are specific to her especially if there are particular strokes in the IM that are less strong for her likely will help more than stroke clinics or more pool time. Have the coach look at her IM splits to see the best room for improvement.

[Anonymous]

Tell them to have fun and try their very best. Don't say anything else. Parents parent and Coaches coach. In a few years, you will know if it is their thing and if it is the right program.

[Anonymous]

Relax and let her just enjoy swimming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(she wants to break a team record and she's close but it's still a few seconds away)

Wouldn't this be the case for basically every kid on the team?

No. She has the fastest 10U times by a lot.

PP here- She could be the next Ledecky or Gemmel, who were always super fast at any age- and didn't do things like outside stroke clinics- or she could be like a lot of swimmers who are fast at certain times then are not.

Pushing a 10yo is just a bad idea. As long as she goes to practice regularly and has a good attitude, the times will come. Overactive parenting really does't help anyone- yourself or your child

Yep, Ledecky was always fast at a very early age. Her mother was a collegiate swimmer and both parents were tall. Katie is 6 feet tall. Perfect storm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was pretty good at age 10, then the other girls grew taller and stronger and left tiny me in their wake. I became a synchro swimmer.

Let her enjoy swimming now without pressure, and give her the opportunity to try other sports as well, the same way as Caeleb Dressel did. He even took an extended break in his teens.

When I was swimming, some of the best kids quit at age 12/13 because they were sick of it.

Yep. I was on the other side of this. Just ok at 10 years old... pretty good but not the best at one stroke, and that was it. Very different story at 14-15 years old. I was tall but scrawny as a kid, so I would get beaten by the shorter but more solidly built girls. I just kept at it because I enjoyed it, while also doing other things. Then I got to high school and the shorter girls also got curvy which caused them to plateau, and my height and relative lack of curves became a big advantage. Because I was still improving and becoming more versatile beyond my best stroke, I was motivated to keep working hard. Meanwhile the girls who had early success were getting burned out and frustrated, and started wanting to do other things with their time. These same girls tended to have parents who were very into it and pushed them, traveled to lots of extra meets, etc., because they got excited about that early success. If you had told me at age 10 that by age 15-16 I would end up being faster than certain girls who were sooo fast (like people thought they'd be going to the Olympics one day), I never would have believed it.

There are always the kids who start fast and stay fast, like Ledecky and Phelps. But there are many more who are fast before puberty and then fall off, only to be overtaken by kids who were not on anyone's radar once puberty hits. You really don't know which kind of kid you have so it's much better to just let the coach handle things and simply support your child as long as they're enjoying it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(she wants to break a team record and she's close but it's still a few seconds away)

Wouldn't this be the case for basically every kid on the team?

No. She has the fastest 10U times by a lot.

I looked up on swimmer rank and see that only about eighteen 9 year olds are ranked in the top 200 in the Us for the 200 IM. I am interested in her time. I enjoying watching how these swimmers do. It’s amazing to me! The top 9 year old in the 200 Im in the country has a 2:29.62 in the 9-10 yr old 200 im. How far is your daughter from the record?

[Anonymous]

Swim faster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(she wants to break a team record and she's close but it's still a few seconds away)

Wouldn't this be the case for basically every kid on the team?

No. She has the fastest 10U times by a lot.

Then I'd assume she has the JO cut. Make sure she goes and swims the event there. If she makes finals, another chance to swim. Zone cut? Same thing. Kids generally swim faster at the big meets. Not with pressure of 'do this to break the record,' but just because she (hopefully) loves to swim.

[Anonymous]

What is her time, OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(she wants to break a team record and she's close but it's still a few seconds away)

Wouldn't this be the case for basically every kid on the team?

No. She has the fastest 10U times by a lot.

I looked up on swimmer rank and see that only about eighteen 9 year olds are ranked in the top 200 in the Us for the 200 IM. I am interested in her time. I enjoying watching how these swimmers do. It’s amazing to me! The top 9 year old in the 200 Im in the country has a 2:29.62 in the 9-10 yr old 200 im. How far is your daughter from the record?

Looks like the top swimmer (9 year old, girl) in PVS for the current year (so far) has a 9:43.12. Just FYI