Legacy Admit is racist

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Anonymous wrote:Get over it. If admissions were completely blind, elite schools would be full of essentially on white and asians. They are the higher pure stats. Don’t believe me? Go look at the Harvard law suit. It’s not terribly supportive of other races/ethnicities.

I can support URM holistic. But given that legacy mostly helps rich, and rich white people, why would I support that?

Only legacies who gaint to benefit from legacy admissions would support continuing a policy that mostly helps rich white people.

[Anonymous]

The bigger question is why do you want your kid to go to school with rich & influential kids? Because connections matter in getting to the top? That's why they limit the riff raff they let in. When your people, whoever they are, get to the top, of course they will do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get over it. If admissions were completely blind, elite schools would be full of essentially on white and asians. They are the higher pure stats. Don’t believe me? Go look at the Harvard law suit. It’s not terribly supportive of other races/ethnicities.

The data is least supportive of recruited athletes being qualified. And they are by are large rich and white. If you want to complain about legacy and URM at least complain about all of it.

[Anonymous]

Are legacy admits at HBCUs racist?

[Anonymous]

I suspect the OP is not a BIPOC

[Anonymous]

At this point, the only people hurt by legacy admits are unconnected white and Asian applicants. URMs and first generation already have more spots set aside for them than their representation in the applicant pool.

[Anonymous]

Deck stacked in favor of rich people. News at 11.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Most schools will only let in legacies who are well-qualified. It’s not like they are letting in D student slackers (Jared excepting) So, maybe Harvard accepts a legacy with a 1480 and a 4.2 rather than a 1560 and 4.6? Is that really that big of a difference? The 1560 got 8 more questions correct, big whoop.
My overall point is that it’s all pretty subjective, even test scores and grades.

Umm, you obviously don't know many Ivy legacy grads. Plenty who couldn't touch 1400 or a 3.5 gpa. It's all about the money and connections.

[Anonymous]

Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous]

Families with legacy ties tend to donate more.

Not defending the college admission process by any means but that is why they do it.

It is about the $s. Early decision is based on $s too. You are basically signaling to the school I will pay full price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I suspect the OP is not a BIPOC

you would be wrong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Families with legacy ties tend to donate more.

Not defending the college admission process by any means but that is why they do it.

It is about the $s. Early decision is based on $s too. You are basically signaling to the school I will pay full price.

One of the articles mentioned a study that found that cutting legacy admits didn't reduce the total donation for the school that it looked at.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At this point, the only people hurt by legacy admits are unconnected white and Asian applicants. URMs and first generation already have more spots set aside for them than their representation in the applicant pool.

agree. But it's easier to go after URM "affirmative action" than it is to fight the rich and powerful, who have a larger admit rate than URM.

[Anonymous]

You need to get out more. Most legacy kids are very smart and accomplished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did not realize that legacy admissions started out as a way to exclude Jews and Catholics from elite universities, much like holistic admissions did.

At least today, holistic admissions often help URM. But, what does legacy admissions do for URM or the kid with no hooks from a middle class family?

I'm disgusted with how so-called elite universities espouse "diversity" and holistic approach to have diverse/broad spectrum of views in the student body, but a very large % of admits are from legacy, who are typically wealthy and white. This approach is basically "keeping the status quo".. "good ol' boys network".. "keeping it in the family".

It's disturbing that these elite institutions have retained a policy that was steeped in bigotry.

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/202...on-legacy-admissions

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/202...ty-students-smart-iq

IMO, the only reason why groups like the NAACP aren't fighting it is because URM do get a leg up. But imagine if those univ didn't give preference for URM.

If you look at the stats, it's not the URM kids who's taking spots from the MC/UMC white kid. It's the legacy admit kids who wouldn't have gotten in with the scores they have without that legacy hook.

None of this was on my radar before, but as my oldest is hitting senior year, we are looking at colleges and the whole admissions process a lot more, and what I'm finding is that the system built for and by rich white people still persists in institutions that claim they want diversity. It's just all smoke and mirrors.

Very disturbing.

That's your problem right there. You think MC/UMC white kids are entitled to these spots at "elite" universities.