Comments on Math SOL Revision (formerly VMPI)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I put a comment on need for advanced - above grade level - learning at whole class level.

What is E3

E3 is an FCPS specific thing. They are implementing advanced math for an entire grade level for 3rd and 4th at some school, with more advanced kids getting in-class differentiation, is the theory. Parents with kids in E3 schools say what ends up happening is that meaningful differentiation happens, as expected because that's a lot to put on a teacher.

I believe you meant to write:

“meaningful differentiation does NOT happen under the new E3 model.” Yes?

VMPI would have a similar effect state wide through its “blending” model.

Yes, does not.

The thing about VMPI is even though it was changed in, what, April to clarify that advanced tracks would be allowed, the word had already gone out to districts about what was expected (a rural district was actually the first one to report on it well before Loudoun blew it up into the media). FCPS said E3 was designed to adapt to whatever VMPI came up with. They will, of course, adapt to whatever the SOL changes formerly known as VMPI come up with too, as legally required.

People who like to say that "Oh of course they are changing the SOL, the Assembly mandates that!" don't understand that parents are concerned with how they are changing the standards and what the new standards will be, not the fact that they are changing them. Change could be good! It's just that what they keep straining for looks a lot like the soft bigotry of low expectations.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put a comment on need for advanced - above grade level - learning at whole class level.

What is E3

E3 is an FCPS specific thing. They are implementing advanced math for an entire grade level for 3rd and 4th at some school, with more advanced kids getting in-class differentiation, is the theory. Parents with kids in E3 schools say what ends up happening is that meaningful differentiation happens, as expected because that's a lot to put on a teacher.

I believe you meant to write:

“meaningful differentiation does NOT happen under the new E3 model.” Yes?

VMPI would have a similar effect state wide through its “blending” model.

Yes, does not.

The thing about VMPI is even though it was changed in, what, April to clarify that advanced tracks would be allowed, the word had already gone out to districts about what was expected (a rural district was actually the first one to report on it well before Loudoun blew it up into the media). FCPS said E3 was designed to adapt to whatever VMPI came up with. They will, of course, adapt to whatever the SOL changes formerly known as VMPI come up with too, as legally required.

People who like to say that "Oh of course they are changing the SOL, the Assembly mandates that!" don't understand that parents are concerned with how they are changing the standards and what the new standards will be, not the fact that they are changing them. Change could be good! It's just that what they keep straining for looks a lot like the soft bigotry of low expectations.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

DP.

Yet, PP, you do not deny the soft bigotry of lowered expectations.

I am tired of your contradictory claims about VMPI: you keep trying to claim we parents have nothing to fear because VMPI will not change anything at all. But then you claim it’s imperative VA implement VMPI state-wide.

Please explain EXACTLY what VMPI will do, and why it’s needed.

If you’re unable to persuasively articulate that position, please stop posting here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put a comment on need for advanced - above grade level - learning at whole class level.

What is E3

E3 is an FCPS specific thing. They are implementing advanced math for an entire grade level for 3rd and 4th at some school, with more advanced kids getting in-class differentiation, is the theory. Parents with kids in E3 schools say what ends up happening is that meaningful differentiation happens, as expected because that's a lot to put on a teacher.

I believe you meant to write:

“meaningful differentiation does NOT happen under the new E3 model.” Yes?

VMPI would have a similar effect state wide through its “blending” model.

Yes, does not.

The thing about VMPI is even though it was changed in, what, April to clarify that advanced tracks would be allowed, the word had already gone out to districts about what was expected (a rural district was actually the first one to report on it well before Loudoun blew it up into the media). FCPS said E3 was designed to adapt to whatever VMPI came up with. They will, of course, adapt to whatever the SOL changes formerly known as VMPI come up with too, as legally required.

People who like to say that "Oh of course they are changing the SOL, the Assembly mandates that!" don't understand that parents are concerned with how they are changing the standards and what the new standards will be, not the fact that they are changing them. Change could be good! It's just that what they keep straining for looks a lot like the soft bigotry of low expectations.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

DP.

Yet, PP, you do not deny the soft bigotry of lowered expectations.

I am tired of your contradictory claims about VMPI: you keep trying to claim we parents have nothing to fear because VMPI will not change anything at all. But then you claim it’s imperative VA implement VMPI state-wide.

Please explain EXACTLY what VMPI will do, and why it’s needed.

If you’re unable to persuasively articulate that position, please stop posting here.

You are confusing posters. I've never said any of those things.

VMPI is dead. It won't do anything.

VDOE is updating the math curriculum, as it is required to do by law. They will not include anything about detracking. That has been definitively off the table since April 2021. And it's not really in the scope of "curriculum" anyway.

And yet - almost a year later - we still have political hacks on here trying to push this false narrative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I put a comment on need for advanced - above grade level - learning at whole class level.

What is E3

E3 is an FCPS specific thing. They are implementing advanced math for an entire grade level for 3rd and 4th at some school, with more advanced kids getting in-class differentiation, is the theory. Parents with kids in E3 schools say what ends up happening is that meaningful differentiation happens, as expected because that's a lot to put on a teacher.

I believe you meant to write:

“meaningful differentiation does NOT happen under the new E3 model.” Yes?

VMPI would have a similar effect state wide through its “blending” model.

Yes, does not.

The thing about VMPI is even though it was changed in, what, April to clarify that advanced tracks would be allowed, the word had already gone out to districts about what was expected (a rural district was actually the first one to report on it well before Loudoun blew it up into the media). FCPS said E3 was designed to adapt to whatever VMPI came up with. They will, of course, adapt to whatever the SOL changes formerly known as VMPI come up with too, as legally required.

People who like to say that "Oh of course they are changing the SOL, the Assembly mandates that!" don't understand that parents are concerned with how they are changing the standards and what the new standards will be, not the fact that they are changing them. Change could be good! It's just that what they keep straining for looks a lot like the soft bigotry of low expectations.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

DP.

Yet, PP, you do not deny the soft bigotry of lowered expectations.

I am tired of your contradictory claims about VMPI: you keep trying to claim we parents have nothing to fear because VMPI will not change anything at all. But then you claim it’s imperative VA implement VMPI state-wide.

Please explain EXACTLY what VMPI will do, and why it’s needed.

If you’re unable to persuasively articulate that position, please stop posting here.

You are confusing posters. I've never said any of those things.

VMPI is dead. It won't do anything.

VDOE is updating the math curriculum, as it is required to do by law. They will not include anything about detracking. That has been definitively off the table since April 2021. And it's not really in the scope of "curriculum" anyway.

And yet - almost a year later - we still have political hacks on here trying to push this false narrative.

Is VMPI really dead though?

Or, did the same staff at VDOE who wrote and proposed VMPI simply change the name to something else, and plan to implement it anyway?

Sorry if that sounds distrustful.

But after all the times VDOE has misrepresented, mislead, and outright lied to parents in the recent past, you’ll agree you don’t deserve any trust.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

NP.

I agree with PP. I feel like what we are both tired of is being dismissed by someone (maybe a DOE employee?) who obviously wants VMPI.

My children’s education matters to me. Immensely.

I am concerned about proposed changes. That concern is not a “conspiracy theory.” Especially when VADOE has been less than transparent and honest about what they plan to do to my child in public school.

Do better, DOE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

NP.

I agree with PP. I feel like what we are both tired of is being dismissed by someone (maybe a DOE employee?) who obviously wants VMPI.

My children’s education matters to me. Immensely.

I am concerned about proposed changes. That concern is not a “conspiracy theory.” Especially when VADOE has been less than transparent and honest about what they plan to do to my child in public school.

Do better, DOE.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

NP.

I agree with PP. I feel like what we are both tired of is being dismissed by someone (maybe a DOE employee?) who obviously wants VMPI.

My children’s education matters to me. Immensely.

I am concerned about proposed changes. That concern is not a “conspiracy theory.” Especially when VADOE has been less than transparent and honest about what they plan to do to my child in public school.

Do better, DOE.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

Stop lying. No one believes you anymore. Your credibility is zero.

Yet again you’ve posted nothing to corroborate your claims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

NP.

I agree with PP. I feel like what we are both tired of is being dismissed by someone (maybe a DOE employee?) who obviously wants VMPI.

My children’s education matters to me. Immensely.

I am concerned about proposed changes. That concern is not a “conspiracy theory.” Especially when VADOE has been less than transparent and honest about what they plan to do to my child in public school.

Do better, DOE.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

Do kids in these E 3 classes take the 6th grade math SOL in 5th grade? If not, it's detracking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

NP.

I agree with PP. I feel like what we are both tired of is being dismissed by someone (maybe a DOE employee?) who obviously wants VMPI.

My children’s education matters to me. Immensely.

I am concerned about proposed changes. That concern is not a “conspiracy theory.” Especially when VADOE has been less than transparent and honest about what they plan to do to my child in public school.

Do better, DOE.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

Do kids in these E 3 classes take the 6th grade math SOL in 5th grade? If not, it's detracking.

That is not defined by the VA SOL.

That is not VDOE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

NP.

I agree with PP. I feel like what we are both tired of is being dismissed by someone (maybe a DOE employee?) who obviously wants VMPI.

My children’s education matters to me. Immensely.

I am concerned about proposed changes. That concern is not a “conspiracy theory.” Especially when VADOE has been less than transparent and honest about what they plan to do to my child in public school.

Do better, DOE.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

Stop lying. No one believes you anymore. Your credibility is zero.

Yet again you’ve posted nothing to corroborate your claims.

Facts:
VMPI is dead.
Several months before it was killed, detracking was definitively taken off the table.

Stop trolling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

NP.

I agree with PP. I feel like what we are both tired of is being dismissed by someone (maybe a DOE employee?) who obviously wants VMPI.

My children’s education matters to me. Immensely.

I am concerned about proposed changes. That concern is not a “conspiracy theory.” Especially when VADOE has been less than transparent and honest about what they plan to do to my child in public school.

Do better, DOE.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

Stop lying. No one believes you anymore. Your credibility is zero.

Yet again you’ve posted nothing to corroborate your claims.

Facts:
VMPI is dead.
Several months before it was killed, detracking was definitively taken off the table.

Stop trolling.

April 2021 - detracking is off the table
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/virginia-advanced-math-classes-equity/2021/04/26/41f3dbd0-a6a3-11eb-bca5-048b2759a489_story.html

January 2022 - VMPI is dead
https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/governor-of-virginia/pdf/74---eo/74---eo/EO-1---ENDING-THE-USE-OF-INHERENTLY-DIVISIVE-CONCEPTS,-INCLUDING-CRITICAL-RACE-THEORY,-AND-RESTORING-EXCELLEN.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

NP.

I agree with PP. I feel like what we are both tired of is being dismissed by someone (maybe a DOE employee?) who obviously wants VMPI.

My children’s education matters to me. Immensely.

I am concerned about proposed changes. That concern is not a “conspiracy theory.” Especially when VADOE has been less than transparent and honest about what they plan to do to my child in public school.

Do better, DOE.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

Stop lying. No one believes you anymore. Your credibility is zero.

Yet again you’ve posted nothing to corroborate your claims.

Facts:
VMPI is dead.
Several months before it was killed, detracking was definitively taken off the table.

Stop trolling.

April 2021 - detracking is off the table
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/virginia-advanced-math-classes-equity/2021/04/26/41f3dbd0-a6a3-11eb-bca5-048b2759a489_story.html

January 2022 - VMPI is dead
https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/governor-of-virginia/pdf/74---eo/74---eo/EO-1---ENDING-THE-USE-OF-INHERENTLY-DIVISIVE-CONCEPTS,-INCLUDING-CRITICAL-RACE-THEORY,-AND-RESTORING-EXCELLEN.pdf

Except you well know VMPI is not dead:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1036947.page

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that parents should definitely put in comments about keeping advanced math, improving rigor of math courses, using more drill (VMPI was not just about soft bigotry of low expectations but also about more "student centered" junk that neuroscience says DOESN'T WORK), and all that. Please - share your comments.

If those comments are read by Tina Mazzacone you may as well write them and throw them in the trash.

Mazzacone works for Dr. Brendon Albon, Office of STEM and Innovation, which is part of the "Department of Learning and Innovation" headed by an Assistant Superintendent (Michael Bolling) whose LinkedIn pages says that they're there since Jan 2020. Albon has been there since 2021. Their boss is the newly appointed Superintendent. So it appears that only the person at the top was replaced. This is scary.

Do you....not understand how politics/government work? Do you expect an entire office to be replaced every single time there is a new governor? Most of the people that work in these offices are career government employees. If they're new hires, it doesn't mean they were political appointees, it just means that's when they were hired. I'm getting so tired of conspiracy theorists here (on both sides).

Which means that, with the exception of the Superintendent and Assistant Superintendent, the people at VDOE still think the VMPI plan was great, just great. I'm not PP, but that's not a conspiracy theory. It's a legitimate concern if you didn't like VMPI - and there was more I personally didn't like about it than just the (shelved, always hazy) plan to cancel advanced math before 11th grade. Reasons not to like it? Just look at people flipping out about similar plans in California, including complaints about data science and statistics. Even zeynep tufeki of NYT was saying it's absurd to try and teach data science before calculus.

NP.

I agree with PP. I feel like what we are both tired of is being dismissed by someone (maybe a DOE employee?) who obviously wants VMPI.

My children’s education matters to me. Immensely.

I am concerned about proposed changes. That concern is not a “conspiracy theory.” Especially when VADOE has been less than transparent and honest about what they plan to do to my child in public school.

Do better, DOE.

VDOE is not including detracking in the curriculum changes.

Stop fearmongering.

Stop lying. No one believes you anymore. Your credibility is zero.

Yet again you’ve posted nothing to corroborate your claims.

Facts:
VMPI is dead.
Several months before it was killed, detracking was definitively taken off the table.

Stop trolling.

April 2021 - detracking is off the table
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/virginia-advanced-math-classes-equity/2021/04/26/41f3dbd0-a6a3-11eb-bca5-048b2759a489_story.html

January 2022 - VMPI is dead
https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/governor-of-virginia/pdf/74---eo/74---eo/EO-1---ENDING-THE-USE-OF-INHERENTLY-DIVISIVE-CONCEPTS,-INCLUDING-CRITICAL-RACE-THEORY,-AND-RESTORING-EXCELLEN.pdf

Except you well know VMPI is not dead:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1036947.page

That’s an op-ed. ?

VMPI is dead.