Poor lifestyle choices account for 80% of chronic diseases

[Anonymous]

Well…duh!

[Anonymous]

You assume that the majority of people are educated enough to make the right choices. Sure, don’t eat a Twinkie for breakfast but beyond that, I don’t think most people truly have the knowledge on health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But what causes poor lifestyle choices? Poverty, ignorance, addictions, etc., not so easy to change.

+1 As an affluent, educated person who is has not gotten into an exercise routine since having kids, I would add: accessible healthcare, accessible childcare, jobs that allow for work life balance…

Take your kids for walks, bike rides, hikes, to the pool

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chronic auto immune diseases are not caused by poor lifestyle choices...

I have IBD and our care costs a fraction of the healthcare costs. ITA with the OP - the metabolic syndrome is driving up the costs. Obesity, diabetes 2, high blood pressure and cholesterol.

Yes, because there are fewer of us. But we’re not cheap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tell that to my mother with Multiple Sclerosis.

Or myself, with Grave's disease.

I understand you mean certain types of diabetes, most cardiovascular diseases, etc. We all know that.


Just don't go dumping on innocent people who lead healthy lives and still get the short end of the stick.

How does this argue against what was said. There are 20% that fall outside

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tell that to my mother with Multiple Sclerosis.

Or myself, with Grave's disease.

I understand you mean certain types of diabetes, most cardiovascular diseases, etc. We all know that.


Just don't go dumping on innocent people who lead healthy lives and still get the short end of the stick.

You you even math?

[Anonymous]

Everybody on DCUM is the exception. Except the exception is that people here are in the top 1-5% globally in terms of wealth and still make piles of excuses.

I managed to get myself into a position of extremely poor health. In my case it was being surrounded by a bunch of psychopaths in a big law firm environment that forced me into horrendous health habits. I decided to not die in a bath tub while traveling for a deposition (something that happened to a friend) and turned my own health ship around. I am down nearly 100 lbs., still practicing in a different big law firm environment, and I run and compete in triathlons competitively (though for my age, and slow compared to the youngins).

Agree with the CPT poster earlier that it is astonishing how people treat themselves. More astonishing is people that do this without extreme life stimulus to do so. I see this with classmates of mine that don't have children and have otherwise normal low stress jobs/professions. What a world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But what causes poor lifestyle choices? Poverty, ignorance, addictions, etc., not so easy to change.

+1 As an affluent, educated person who is has not gotten into an exercise routine since having kids, I would add: accessible healthcare, accessible childcare, jobs that allow for work life balance…

+2 Could not agree more. I would add to this list more walkable communities, more community-based schools, activities, and open space, and any other interventions that allow people to rely less on their cars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tell that to my mother with Multiple Sclerosis.

Or myself, with Grave's disease.

I understand you mean certain types of diabetes, most cardiovascular diseases, etc. We all know that.


Just don't go dumping on innocent people who lead healthy lives and still get the short end of the stick.

This.
Tell that my SIL who died of ovarian cancer at 45. Well, that's too late now but, fwiw, she was loaded and oh, so 'health-conscious'.
You are an idiot, OP and don't even know it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell that to my mother with Multiple Sclerosis.

Or myself, with Grave's disease.

I understand you mean certain types of diabetes, most cardiovascular diseases, etc. We all know that.


Just don't go dumping on innocent people who lead healthy lives and still get the short end of the stick.

This.
Tell that my SIL who died of ovarian cancer at 45. Well, that's too late now but, fwiw, she was loaded and oh, so 'health-conscious'.
You are an idiot, OP and don't even know it.

Well, then that person would be in the 20%. Do you suck at math?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell that to my mother with Multiple Sclerosis.

Or myself, with Grave's disease.

I understand you mean certain types of diabetes, most cardiovascular diseases, etc. We all know that.


Just don't go dumping on innocent people who lead healthy lives and still get the short end of the stick.

This.
Tell that my SIL who died of ovarian cancer at 45. Well, that's too late now but, fwiw, she was loaded and oh, so 'health-conscious'.
You are an idiot, OP and don't even know it.

Then your SIL was in the 20% this doesn’t apply to, genius.

[Anonymous]

Can every stop posting their anecdotes about family members? It clearly says 80% are due to poor lifestyle choices. That leaves 20%. We don’t need to post about each of the people in that 20%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can every stop posting their anecdotes about family members? It clearly says 80% are due to poor lifestyle choices. That leaves 20%. We don’t need to post about each of the people in that 20%.

You’re missing the point. When “individual responsibility” rhetoric is deployed against that 80%, it’s going to hit us in the 20% as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can every stop posting their anecdotes about family members? It clearly says 80% are due to poor lifestyle choices. That leaves 20%. We don’t need to post about each of the people in that 20%.

You’re missing the point. When “individual responsibility” rhetoric is deployed against that 80%, it’s going to hit us in the 20% as well.

But it isn’t rhetoric. It’s fact. Stop taking everything so personally.

[Anonymous]

I have chronic, pretty much non-stop migraines. It is genetics, not lifestyle. I eat very healthy, exercise and get plenty of rest. I've tried so many different things. I wish it was just lifestyle choices. I could cure myself.