Children's National Hospital message to DCPS parents

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good. This is about people who don’t understand their demand for convenience and a certain level of service, during a pandemic, is unreasonable. Stop! The medical community is in crisis.

If you need a test, there are lots of ways to get a rapid test at this point. If you need a PCR, go stand in line at a firehouse or curative kiosk like the rest of us do. If your child is healthy, stop dragging them to the pediatrician or the hospital for everything. Just stop.

Exactly what I thought when I got this email, after I got over the shock of people seeking convenience testing at Childrens (or their pediatrician) to begin with.

well we’ve observed on our many trips (child with severe condition) many people use children’s ER like a PCP.

This is something that the poor do. That's not a judgment. It's basically because there aren't reliable PCPs in their areas, or they don't have access to one. This is well-known in public health literature, btw, I'm not just saying this about DC.

Yes, sadly that’s precisely why (no judgement here either). So I’m not shocked people used it for convenience testing. I also don’t blame the hospital for prioritizing the most critical patients.

Children's National also has a general peds clinic in the hospital that many families, including those of means, go to. This letter was also for their patients who come to them for testing needs when kids have symptoms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. This is about people who don’t understand their demand for convenience and a certain level of service, during a pandemic, is unreasonable. Stop! The medical community is in crisis.

If you need a test, there are lots of ways to get a rapid test at this point. If you need a PCR, go stand in line at a firehouse or curative kiosk like the rest of us do. If your child is healthy, stop dragging them to the pediatrician or the hospital for everything. Just stop.

Exactly what I thought when I got this email, after I got over the shock of people seeking convenience testing at Childrens (or their pediatrician) to begin with.

well we’ve observed on our many trips (child with severe condition) many people use children’s ER like a PCP.

This is something that the poor do. That's not a judgment. It's basically because there aren't reliable PCPs in their areas, or they don't have access to one. This is well-known in public health literature, btw, I'm not just saying this about DC.

Absolutely true and not just for child health concerns. But I don’t see how this equates to asymptomatic/convenience testing. Perhaps the issue is not enough information outreach about availability of testing outside of the ER setting. Someone else suggested shifted hours for free test distribution, which makes sense.

[Anonymous]

First, I don't know why people would go to them anyway when they got clear instructions they can pick up tests at any school.
Second, there is no such thing as unnecessary testing because for every vaccinated person who tests, if they catch a positive and change their behavior, they are breaking the chain of infection to more vulnerable people.

[Anonymous]

My sister works in an ER and yesterday they told the entire waiting room that they wouldn't test them unless they were sick enough to need admission to the hospital. They're now making presumptive diagnoses based on symptoms and if they have a normal pulse oximeter reading, they're discharged from the waiting room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First, I don't know why people would go to them anyway when they got clear instructions they can pick up tests at any school.
Second, there is no such thing as unnecessary testing because for every vaccinated person who tests, if they catch a positive and change their behavior, they are breaking the chain of infection to more vulnerable people.

That would only be true if test weren't a limited resource:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/01/covid-test-shortage/621149/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My sister works in an ER and yesterday they told the entire waiting room that they wouldn't test them unless they were sick enough to need admission to the hospital. They're now making presumptive diagnoses based on symptoms and if they have a normal pulse oximeter reading, they're discharged from the waiting room.

Does she work at the ER at Children’s? Otherwise this isn’t particularly relevant…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, I don't know why people would go to them anyway when they got clear instructions they can pick up tests at any school.
Second, there is no such thing as unnecessary testing because for every vaccinated person who tests, if they catch a positive and change their behavior, they are breaking the chain of infection to more vulnerable people.

That would only be true if test weren't a limited resource:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/01/covid-test-shortage/621149/

The idiot author wants tests reserved for the unvaccinated. They put themselves in a position that makes them vulnerable, there is no reason to expend limited resources on them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, I don't know why people would go to them anyway when they got clear instructions they can pick up tests at any school.
Second, there is no such thing as unnecessary testing because for every vaccinated person who tests, if they catch a positive and change their behavior, they are breaking the chain of infection to more vulnerable people.

That would only be true if test weren't a limited resource:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/01/covid-test-shortage/621149/

The idiot author wants tests reserved for the unvaccinated. They put themselves in a position that makes them vulnerable, there is no reason to expend limited resources on them

The author isn't an idiot, you are. He is not trying to do the unvaccinated a service, he is recognizing the reality that the unvaccinated are the ones who are burdening hospitals, which can impact both the unvaccinated and the vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it's a waste of resources to demand that every child get tested to be allowed to return to school. This is another case of the mayor giving in to unreasonable union demands. The union is pushing for metrics for # of positive cases to close schools and wants this data to close schools. Experts say the most important metrics are number of hospitalizations and deaths, not number of cases. Yet the union continues to fear monger about number of cases.

I'm so angry that the union keeps harming children and those who actually are more vulnerable to dying from covid despite being vaccinated. Do some actual risk management and consider all the impacts of covid on society, not just union members' irrational feelings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a waste of resources to demand that every child get tested to be allowed to return to school. This is another case of the mayor giving in to unreasonable union demands. The union is pushing for metrics for # of positive cases to close schools and wants this data to close schools. Experts say the most important metrics are number of hospitalizations and deaths, not number of cases. Yet the union continues to fear monger about number of cases.

I'm so angry that the union keeps harming children and those who actually are more vulnerable to dying from covid despite being vaccinated. Do some actual risk management and consider all the impacts of covid on society, not just union members' irrational feelings.

What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a waste of resources to demand that every child get tested to be allowed to return to school. This is another case of the mayor giving in to unreasonable union demands. The union is pushing for metrics for # of positive cases to close schools and wants this data to close schools. Experts say the most important metrics are number of hospitalizations and deaths, not number of cases. Yet the union continues to fear monger about number of cases.

I'm so angry that the union keeps harming children and those who actually are more vulnerable to dying from covid despite being vaccinated. Do some actual risk management and consider all the impacts of covid on society, not just union members' irrational feelings.

+1

Not only irrational union members, also irrational parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a waste of resources to demand that every child get tested to be allowed to return to school. This is another case of the mayor giving in to unreasonable union demands. The union is pushing for metrics for # of positive cases to close schools and wants this data to close schools. Experts say the most important metrics are number of hospitalizations and deaths, not number of cases. Yet the union continues to fear monger about number of cases.

I'm so angry that the union keeps harming children and those who actually are more vulnerable to dying from covid despite being vaccinated. Do some actual risk management and consider all the impacts of covid on society, not just union members' irrational feelings.

+1

Not only irrational union members, also irrational parents.

YES!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a waste of resources to demand that every child get tested to be allowed to return to school. This is another case of the mayor giving in to unreasonable union demands. The union is pushing for metrics for # of positive cases to close schools and wants this data to close schools. Experts say the most important metrics are number of hospitalizations and deaths, not number of cases. Yet the union continues to fear monger about number of cases.

I'm so angry that the union keeps harming children and those who actually are more vulnerable to dying from covid despite being vaccinated. Do some actual risk management and consider all the impacts of covid on society, not just union members' irrational feelings.

+1

Not only irrational union members, also irrational parents.

YES!

Just read crazy pumpkin mom’s Twitter feed. A day or so ago she was musing about how we’re all going to die from omicron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a waste of resources to demand that every child get tested to be allowed to return to school. This is another case of the mayor giving in to unreasonable union demands. The union is pushing for metrics for # of positive cases to close schools and wants this data to close schools. Experts say the most important metrics are number of hospitalizations and deaths, not number of cases. Yet the union continues to fear monger about number of cases.

I'm so angry that the union keeps harming children and those who actually are more vulnerable to dying from covid despite being vaccinated. Do some actual risk management and consider all the impacts of covid on society, not just union members' irrational feelings.

+1

Not only irrational union members, also irrational parents.

YES!

Just read crazy pumpkin mom’s Twitter feed. A day or so ago she was musing about how we’re all going to die from omicron.

What twittet thread is that??

[Anonymous]

This is where the mean girls go after hs. Reminds me of the kids on my middle school bus replaying last nights aim convos