Ban on plastic fruit and veg packs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And now the Radical Left Democrat potty
Wants to take away your fruits and your vegetables.
Your delicious fruits and vegetables,
They wanna take ‘em away. They do.

Just like they stole an election,
Now they wanna take away your fresh fruits,
And those wonderful vegetables,
And it’s a disgrace, a complete disgrace.

Is this some kind of attempt at bad poetry, based on wrong assumptions? You're a strange person. Swing and a miss. Move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Germans are lightyears ahead of us when it comes to packaging and concern for the environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Europeans generally get their produce from the fruit or veggie guy/girl on market days. They are not typically shopping in mega grocery stores for produce.

Europeans also favor eating produce that is local and in season. They don't expect to have produce shipped in off season from half way around the world.

Europeans have brought their own baskets and bags for shopping for decades.

So what you are saying, is that this effort to ban protective plastics for fruits and vegetables is just politicians pretending to do something, but that it will ultimately have very little impact since so little fruit and vegetables use protective plastics anyway...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Germans are lightyears ahead of us when it comes to packaging and concern for the environment.

Yea, this photo below is *DEFINITELY* not from Germany:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason protective plastics are used is that without them, there would be damage, spoiling, and waste of the underlying good. From a cost/benefit analysis point of view, there needs to be a study to see whether the additional loss of goods and products due to lack of protective plastic, justifies banning the protective plastic. Are consumers willing to purchase wilted lettuce, marred apples, and smooshed figs? There is a balance that needs to be maintained.

This is a good point. It would be interesting if somebody produced a report on which fresh fruit and veg produce the most wastage in supermarkets due to produce having to be thrown out. I imagine half the avocados must get thrown away. Sometimes, the entire bin of avos are already too soft. The wastage that occurs with fresh produce is probably a good argument for freezing vegetables but I suppose you would have to figure out the resource use in freezing, storing and transporting frozen stuff with minimal waste in the supermarket versus the less resource intensive production of fresh plus very high wastage.

When I buy a romaine lettuce for use in a sandwich, I cannot use the whole lettuce in one sandwich. Sometimes it takes me a week to go through a lettuce. I use a single piece of saran wrap to wrap the lettuce while keeping the ends open, this keeps the lettuce fresh and crispy for up to a week in my fridge and allows me to use up the whole lettuce. Without it, the lettuce would dry out in the fridge. I do the same with onions, and cheese. Protective plastic has saved me from having to throw away so much food.

I also try to use tupperware when I can, but I wonder the washing process of reusing the tupperware doesn't end up using more water/electricity/chemicals than just the small square of plastic wrap.

[Anonymous]

I also wanted to add, a small piece of cling wrap over ice cream after taking out scoops helps keep the ice cream fresh and avoids those ice crystals from forming.

[Anonymous]

I also wanted to add, a small piece of cling wrap over ice cream after taking out scoops helps keep the ice cream fresh and avoids those ice crystals from forming.

Yes, saran wrap is vital to our existence. Who knows what our grandparents did without it.

[Anonymous]

I stopped using ziploc bags when I decided to try some plain brown paper sandwich bags from whole foods and realized that they work just fine and can be thrown into our food scraps bin. That one act cut back a major source of our household plastic waste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason protective plastics are used is that without them, there would be damage, spoiling, and waste of the underlying good. From a cost/benefit analysis point of view, there needs to be a study to see whether the additional loss of goods and products due to lack of protective plastic, justifies banning the protective plastic. Are consumers willing to purchase wilted lettuce, marred apples, and smooshed figs? There is a balance that needs to be maintained.

This is a good point. It would be interesting if somebody produced a report on which fresh fruit and veg produce the most wastage in supermarkets due to produce having to be thrown out. I imagine half the avocados must get thrown away. Sometimes, the entire bin of avos are already too soft. The wastage that occurs with fresh produce is probably a good argument for freezing vegetables but I suppose you would have to figure out the resource use in freezing, storing and transporting frozen stuff with minimal waste in the supermarket versus the less resource intensive production of fresh plus very high wastage.

When I buy a romaine lettuce for use in a sandwich, I cannot use the whole lettuce in one sandwich. Sometimes it takes me a week to go through a lettuce. I use a single piece of saran wrap to wrap the lettuce while keeping the ends open, this keeps the lettuce fresh and crispy for up to a week in my fridge and allows me to use up the whole lettuce. Without it, the lettuce would dry out in the fridge. I do the same with onions, and cheese. Protective plastic has saved me from having to throw away so much food.

I also try to use tupperware when I can, but I wonder the washing process of reusing the tupperware doesn't end up using more water/electricity/chemicals than just the small square of plastic wrap.

Meet reusable wax wrap!
https://www.beeswrap.com/products/the-tri-fecta?currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt8WOBhDbARIsANQLp95H32kmFK3yWyTT5_kI1ryLiFkL6xRS8IcWqQH8MgX--HKm_a-mb6UaAsTkEALw_wcB&variant=31881465790511

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason protective plastics are used is that without them, there would be damage, spoiling, and waste of the underlying good. From a cost/benefit analysis point of view, there needs to be a study to see whether the additional loss of goods and products due to lack of protective plastic, justifies banning the protective plastic. Are consumers willing to purchase wilted lettuce, marred apples, and smooshed figs? There is a balance that needs to be maintained.

This is a good point. It would be interesting if somebody produced a report on which fresh fruit and veg produce the most wastage in supermarkets due to produce having to be thrown out. I imagine half the avocados must get thrown away. Sometimes, the entire bin of avos are already too soft. The wastage that occurs with fresh produce is probably a good argument for freezing vegetables but I suppose you would have to figure out the resource use in freezing, storing and transporting frozen stuff with minimal waste in the supermarket versus the less resource intensive production of fresh plus very high wastage.

When I buy a romaine lettuce for use in a sandwich, I cannot use the whole lettuce in one sandwich. Sometimes it takes me a week to go through a lettuce. I use a single piece of saran wrap to wrap the lettuce while keeping the ends open, this keeps the lettuce fresh and crispy for up to a week in my fridge and allows me to use up the whole lettuce. Without it, the lettuce would dry out in the fridge. I do the same with onions, and cheese. Protective plastic has saved me from having to throw away so much food.

I also try to use tupperware when I can, but I wonder the washing process of reusing the tupperware doesn't end up using more water/electricity/chemicals than just the small square of plastic wrap.

Meet reusable wax wrap!
https://www.beeswrap.com/products/the-tri-fecta?currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt8WOBhDbARIsANQLp95H32kmFK3yWyTT5_kI1ryLiFkL6xRS8IcWqQH8MgX--HKm_a-mb6UaAsTkEALw_wcB&variant=31881465790511

Thanks for sharing this, but to me it's not as suitable as normal cling wrap because I'll have to find some way to keep the wrap tight. It might work for sandwiches but I can't use this to wrap onions, for example, and expect a good seal. I'd still have to wash it, so that's water and chemicals used in order to remain sanitary.

I do try to cut back on plastics whenever I can. My garbage company doesn't usually care if the garbage is in actual bags, so I try to bag as little as possible. I discovered that butcher paper is much better than plastic bags or cling wrap for sandwiches. Even aluminum foil, I try to use that before turning to plastic. But there are just some things plastic is better for, and my suggestion is that we use some common sense rather than broad government action to ban plastics as a knee jerk reaction to environmental challenges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I stopped using ziploc bags when I decided to try some plain brown paper sandwich bags from whole foods and realized that they work just fine and can be thrown into our food scraps bin. That one act cut back a major source of our household plastic waste.

Oh my gawd, same here, though I made the change to butcher paper. I started making sandwiches for my kids and found that butcher paper was a much better solution than cling wrap. The paper allowed the sandwich to "breathe" preventing the bread from getting too soggy. Unfolded, the paper is also a great placemat for them to eat off of. I love it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason protective plastics are used is that without them, there would be damage, spoiling, and waste of the underlying good. From a cost/benefit analysis point of view, there needs to be a study to see whether the additional loss of goods and products due to lack of protective plastic, justifies banning the protective plastic. Are consumers willing to purchase wilted lettuce, marred apples, and smooshed figs? There is a balance that needs to be maintained.

This is a good point. It would be interesting if somebody produced a report on which fresh fruit and veg produce the most wastage in supermarkets due to produce having to be thrown out. I imagine half the avocados must get thrown away. Sometimes, the entire bin of avos are already too soft. The wastage that occurs with fresh produce is probably a good argument for freezing vegetables but I suppose you would have to figure out the resource use in freezing, storing and transporting frozen stuff with minimal waste in the supermarket versus the less resource intensive production of fresh plus very high wastage.

When I buy a romaine lettuce for use in a sandwich, I cannot use the whole lettuce in one sandwich. Sometimes it takes me a week to go through a lettuce. I use a single piece of saran wrap to wrap the lettuce while keeping the ends open, this keeps the lettuce fresh and crispy for up to a week in my fridge and allows me to use up the whole lettuce. Without it, the lettuce would dry out in the fridge. I do the same with onions, and cheese. Protective plastic has saved me from having to throw away so much food.

I also try to use tupperware when I can, but I wonder the washing process of reusing the tupperware doesn't end up using more water/electricity/chemicals than just the small square of plastic wrap.

Meet reusable wax wrap!
https://www.beeswrap.com/products/the-tri-fecta?currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt8WOBhDbARIsANQLp95H32kmFK3yWyTT5_kI1ryLiFkL6xRS8IcWqQH8MgX--HKm_a-mb6UaAsTkEALw_wcB&variant=31881465790511

Thanks for sharing this, but to me it's not as suitable as normal cling wrap because I'll have to find some way to keep the wrap tight. It might work for sandwiches but I can't use this to wrap onions, for example, and expect a good seal. I'd still have to wash it, so that's water and chemicals used in order to remain sanitary.

I do try to cut back on plastics whenever I can. My garbage company doesn't usually care if the garbage is in actual bags, so I try to bag as little as possible. I discovered that butcher paper is much better than plastic bags or cling wrap for sandwiches. Even aluminum foil, I try to use that before turning to plastic. But there are just some things plastic is better for, and my suggestion is that we use some common sense rather than broad government action to ban plastics as a knee jerk reaction to environmental challenges.

DP i use glass, metal, or ceramic bowls with lids for every kind of food storage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Germans are lightyears ahead of us when it comes to packaging and concern for the environment.

Germans are ultra anti environment for shutting down nuclear capacity.

I never want to hear Germans being equated to being green.

Snort. You love radioactive waste in your backyard?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The reason protective plastics are used is that without them, there would be damage, spoiling, and waste of the underlying good. From a cost/benefit analysis point of view, there needs to be a study to see whether the additional loss of goods and products due to lack of protective plastic, justifies banning the protective plastic. Are consumers willing to purchase wilted lettuce, marred apples, and smooshed figs? There is a balance that needs to be maintained.

This is a good point. It would be interesting if somebody produced a report on which fresh fruit and veg produce the most wastage in supermarkets due to produce having to be thrown out. I imagine half the avocados must get thrown away. Sometimes, the entire bin of avos are already too soft. The wastage that occurs with fresh produce is probably a good argument for freezing vegetables but I suppose you would have to figure out the resource use in freezing, storing and transporting frozen stuff with minimal waste in the supermarket versus the less resource intensive production of fresh plus very high wastage.

When I buy a romaine lettuce for use in a sandwich, I cannot use the whole lettuce in one sandwich. Sometimes it takes me a week to go through a lettuce. I use a single piece of saran wrap to wrap the lettuce while keeping the ends open, this keeps the lettuce fresh and crispy for up to a week in my fridge and allows me to use up the whole lettuce. Without it, the lettuce would dry out in the fridge. I do the same with onions, and cheese. Protective plastic has saved me from having to throw away so much food.

I also try to use tupperware when I can, but I wonder the washing process of reusing the tupperware doesn't end up using more water/electricity/chemicals than just the small square of plastic wrap.

Meet reusable wax wrap!
https://www.beeswrap.com/products/the-tri-fecta?currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt8WOBhDbARIsANQLp95H32kmFK3yWyTT5_kI1ryLiFkL6xRS8IcWqQH8MgX--HKm_a-mb6UaAsTkEALw_wcB&variant=31881465790511

Thanks for sharing this, but to me it's not as suitable as normal cling wrap because I'll have to find some way to keep the wrap tight. It might work for sandwiches but I can't use this to wrap onions, for example, and expect a good seal. I'd still have to wash it, so that's water and chemicals used in order to remain sanitary.

I do try to cut back on plastics whenever I can. My garbage company doesn't usually care if the garbage is in actual bags, so I try to bag as little as possible. I discovered that butcher paper is much better than plastic bags or cling wrap for sandwiches. Even aluminum foil, I try to use that before turning to plastic. But there are just some things plastic is better for, and my suggestion is that we use some common sense rather than broad government action to ban plastics as a knee jerk reaction to environmental challenges.

DP here.

This brand is self-adhesive and will stick to itself and to bowls, so it should meet your needs. If you check out the Amazon link, the last "image" is a video of the wrap in use and they wrap several round fruits/vegies in the wrap and it clings to itself. Then they show a bowl being covered and the wrap clings to the bowl.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082SKN9HV

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I also wanted to add, a small piece of cling wrap over ice cream after taking out scoops helps keep the ice cream fresh and avoids those ice crystals from forming.

Yes, saran wrap is vital to our existence. Who knows what our grandparents did without it.

Same goes for computers, cell phones, antibiotics, vaccines.