Is DCUM compliant with European GDPR data privacy?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

No, you have it wrong. The EU does not have the right to create a law that governs a US-based website that primarily serves US users. If the EU wants to protect its citizens from the dangers of DCUM, it can block the site and prevent EU citizens from reaching it. The EU has no authority over me or DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

What jurisdiction would the EU have over a US-based site intended for a US-based audience that does no business in the EU?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Does this mean that If I am in Europe, I am unable to access DCUM?

In most cases you will be able to access DCUM. However, because a huge number of spammers come from European IP addresses, I've blocked quite a few addresses from that region. So, you may find your address blocked. But, otherwise, you can access the site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does this mean that If I am in Europe, I am unable to access DCUM?

You can access it. You just won’t be offered the option to decline tracking cookies like you would on EU-based sites, as this site declines for you.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

No, you have it wrong. The EU does not have the right to create a law that governs a US-based website that primarily serves US users. If the EU wants to protect its citizens from the dangers of DCUM, it can block the site and prevent EU citizens from reaching it. The EU has no authority over me or DCUM.

Now you’re sounding like a Republican, Jeff!

But in all seriousness, is that your personal, political view or your interpretation of the GDPR?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

No, you have it wrong. The EU does not have the right to create a law that governs a US-based website that primarily serves US users. If the EU wants to protect its citizens from the dangers of DCUM, it can block the site and prevent EU citizens from reaching it. The EU has no authority over me or DCUM.

Now you’re sounding like a Republican, Jeff!

But in all seriousness, is that your personal, political view or your interpretation of the GDPR?

The EU has no jurisdiction.

[Anonymous]

As long as this site is not storing or processing PII data of EU residents, it does not need to comply with GDPR.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

No, you have it wrong. The EU does not have the right to create a law that governs a US-based website that primarily serves US users. If the EU wants to protect its citizens from the dangers of DCUM, it can block the site and prevent EU citizens from reaching it. The EU has no authority over me or DCUM.

Now you’re sounding like a Republican, Jeff!

But in all seriousness, is that your personal, political view or your interpretation of the GDPR?

I think that is common sense. If North Korea passed a law requiring all websites to show a portrait of Kim Jong-un, would you be here arguing that I have to follow it? If I was in the EU, I would follow EU laws, not American laws. Since I am in the US, I follow US laws.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

No, you have it wrong. The EU does not have the right to create a law that governs a US-based website that primarily serves US users. If the EU wants to protect its citizens from the dangers of DCUM, it can block the site and prevent EU citizens from reaching it. The EU has no authority over me or DCUM.

Now you’re sounding like a Republican, Jeff!

But in all seriousness, is that your personal, political view or your interpretation of the GDPR?

I think that is common sense. If North Korea passed a law requiring all websites to show a portrait of Kim Jong-un, would you be here arguing that I have to follow it? If I was in the EU, I would follow EU laws, not American laws. Since I am in the US, I follow US laws.

Good thing you’re not a lawyer, Jeff!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

No, you have it wrong. The EU does not have the right to create a law that governs a US-based website that primarily serves US users. If the EU wants to protect its citizens from the dangers of DCUM, it can block the site and prevent EU citizens from reaching it. The EU has no authority over me or DCUM.

Now you’re sounding like a Republican, Jeff!

But in all seriousness, is that your personal, political view or your interpretation of the GDPR?

DP. If you have actually grounds to believe Jeff is wrong in his interpretation, then say that. Playing coy about it is just tedious, and suggests you know you’re wrong but don’t want to admit it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

No, you have it wrong. The EU does not have the right to create a law that governs a US-based website that primarily serves US users. If the EU wants to protect its citizens from the dangers of DCUM, it can block the site and prevent EU citizens from reaching it. The EU has no authority over me or DCUM.

Now you’re sounding like a Republican, Jeff!

But in all seriousness, is that your personal, political view or your interpretation of the GDPR?

I think that is common sense. If North Korea passed a law requiring all websites to show a portrait of Kim Jong-un, would you be here arguing that I have to follow it? If I was in the EU, I would follow EU laws, not American laws. Since I am in the US, I follow US laws.

Good thing you’re not a lawyer, Jeff!

Check out Soriano v Forensic News and Others [2021] EWHC 56 (QB) and then report back.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:DP. If you have actually grounds to believe Jeff is wrong in his interpretation, then say that. Playing coy about it is just tedious, and suggests you know you’re wrong but don’t want to admit it.

The GDPR poster will argue until you are blue in the face. I've encountered her before. She is just entertaining herself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

NP. Wait -- do you think that a solely US-based internet site is bound by every law in the world, including from the EU, Russia, Fiji, Pakistan, Japan, literally everywhere? And that it is the responsibility of the site owner to research and follow every law all over the world?

Is that what you are claiming?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for sharing this perspective, Jeff. I understand your logic, but the EU regulations actually do require that you give users the option to accept or decline, not that you make that election on their behalf.

I think that I have been pretty clear that I couldn't care less about EU regulations in this regard. As I said, if you feel I am endangering your privacy, feel free to boycott the site. I certainly wouldn't want you to violate any principles you hold on this matter.

Right, you have made that clear. And I am sure A LOT of US based businesses feel the exact same way. Why wouldn’t they? But that’s not how it works. You don’t get to pick and choose the laws you obey. See the article posted above.

No, you have it wrong. The EU does not have the right to create a law that governs a US-based website that primarily serves US users. If the EU wants to protect its citizens from the dangers of DCUM, it can block the site and prevent EU citizens from reaching it. The EU has no authority over me or DCUM.

Now you’re sounding like a Republican, Jeff!

But in all seriousness, is that your personal, political view or your interpretation of the GDPR?

I think that is common sense. If North Korea passed a law requiring all websites to show a portrait of Kim Jong-un, would you be here arguing that I have to follow it? If I was in the EU, I would follow EU laws, not American laws. Since I am in the US, I follow US laws.

Good thing you’re not a lawyer, Jeff!

Check out Soriano v Forensic News and Others [2021] EWHC 56 (QB) and then report back.

Right. But Jeff is collecting that type of data within the EU, including tracking info, without the required consent or disclosures. I posted more info about it in another thread on website feedback that someone started on a separate data privacy issue, but he immediately deleted it (twice in fact).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As long as this site is not storing or processing PII data of EU residents, it does not need to comply with GDPR.

+1
I worked in a highly regulated area in tech (health care) and we didn't even have to think about GDPR for our phase because our target was US populations only.