Brown PLME

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Here is a Reddit ranking of residency placement rankings (which is what really matters).

https://www.reddit.com/r/premed/comments/b03xaf/complete_ranking_of_medical_schools_md_do_by/
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Anonymous wrote:MY DD is interested in the 7/8 year undergrad-med programs. Northwestern HPME does not exist any more. She is applying to several others with Brown PLME as her top choice. We were told that NW HPME was the best program in the country. However we do not know much about the Brown PLME program other than the fact that it is the only Ivy with the 8 year program. Any advice on these combined programs, which ones are good?


They take like 10 people a year. Good luck.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.


Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

I’m not sure why you’re being so argumentative. Brown is an elite school and extremely difficult to get into their PLME IN MY OPINION, which hasn’t changed. If it’s not elite enough for you, oh well. You’re being silly.
Dartmouth doesn’t offer this type of program. They do have early assurance which you apply to in your junior year, at least according to our tour guide.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.


Nobody cares where you go to med school, it's all about residency and fellowship - PP here with GP, H, and DC1 in medicine. For example, if you want to go gastro, you aim for Mayo or Cleveland Clinic, not Pitt. Brown has great placement programs.

https://medical.brown.edu/about/facts-and-figures/match-lists/md-2021-match-list
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.


Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

I’m not sure why you’re being so argumentative. Brown is an elite school and extremely difficult to get into their PLME IN MY OPINION, which hasn’t changed. If it’s not elite enough for you, oh well. You’re being silly.
Dartmouth doesn’t offer this type of program. They do have early assurance which you apply to in your junior year, at least according to our tour guide.


I am not being argumentative. Just because someone doesn't fully agree with you doesn't mean that person is being argumentative. Where did I say Brown is not "elite enough"? Darthmouth does.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.


Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

I would like to know more about the Dartmouth program. I still have questions. Like what is the program called? How does my high schooler apply?
Do you consider Pitt better than Brown? If so, why?
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We know one kid in the program and our DS went for a weekend in the Fall to meet her cohort. Pretty much all of the kids in PLME had some kind of hook. They were all qualified but were also the grand of donors, the child of media stars, the 12th or something in a row to go to Brown, was on an Olympic team at 16, etc. Hoping the parent of a current PLME kid will weigh in here.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.


Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

I would like to know more about the Dartmouth program. I still have questions. Like what is the program called? How does my high schooler apply?
Do you consider Pitt better than Brown? If so, why?


Pitt is one of the best med schools in US.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.


Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

I’m not sure why you’re being so argumentative. Brown is an elite school and extremely difficult to get into their PLME IN MY OPINION, which hasn’t changed. If it’s not elite enough for you, oh well. You’re being silly.
Dartmouth doesn’t offer this type of program. They do have early assurance which you apply to in your junior year, at least according to our tour guide.


I am not being argumentative. Just because someone doesn't fully agree with you doesn't mean that person is being argumentative. Where did I say Brown is not "elite enough"? Darthmouth does.

You said “Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools”.
OP also said Brown is the only Ivy with a program. Please go correct her since you claim Dartmouth has one.
Op, good luck. It’s got about a 2% acceptance rate and is excellent, dare I say elite, despite what the pp claims.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.


Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

I would like to know more about the Dartmouth program. I still have questions. Like what is the program called? How does my high schooler apply?
Do you consider Pitt better than Brown? If so, why?


Pitt is one of the best med schools in US.


FAR better than Brown for sure.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.


No, you don't get it. I agree with the first PP who has a child in a similar program. The admission rate at Brown is 2.3%, Hopkins med school is 7%. I think at VCU is 3.5%. These are 18 year old kids, not mature people applying to med school.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.


Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

I’m not sure why you’re being so argumentative. Brown is an elite school and extremely difficult to get into their PLME IN MY OPINION, which hasn’t changed. If it’s not elite enough for you, oh well. You’re being silly.
Dartmouth doesn’t offer this type of program. They do have early assurance which you apply to in your junior year, at least according to our tour guide.


I am not being argumentative. Just because someone doesn't fully agree with you doesn't mean that person is being argumentative. Where did I say Brown is not "elite enough"? Darthmouth does.

You said “Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools”.
OP also said Brown is the only Ivy with a program. Please go correct her since you claim Dartmouth has one.
Op, good luck. It’s got about a 2% acceptance rate and is excellent, dare I say elite, despite what the pp claims.


LOL. You said "cream of the crop"! I love that. Good day PP.
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.


Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

I would like to know more about the Dartmouth program. I still have questions. Like what is the program called? How does my high schooler apply?
Do you consider Pitt better than Brown? If so, why?


Pitt is one of the best med schools in US.


FAR better than Brown for sure.


I read one thread in the College forum about the posters' college admissions and it's amazing how many people applied to Brown in the 80s and 90s and got rejected. It's time to grow up and move on.
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I read one thread in the College forum about the posters' college admissions and it's amazing how many people applied to Brown in the 80s and 90s and got rejected. It's time to grow up and move on.


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Anonymous wrote:Thank you, this is very helpful and promising. If the student decides to just do the 4 year undergrad program after a couple years in (decides to change major), is there a problem getting into other programs? In other words, what if they decide that they do not want to pursue medicine?

These programs are targeted to kids who absolutely know it’s what they want to do. My child isn’t at Brown but is at another combined program. That would have been figured out in the two day interview process that there were doubts. Most of the kids coming in had already done research (in high school - how?).

Just from your posting, I’m not sure if you realize how incredibly difficult it is to get into the Brown program. Like insanely hard.


Getting into a med school, regardless which path your choose, is insanely hard.

Sure. But Brown is the cream of the crop and especially for the limited PLME slots.
My kid is in a dual MD program but didn’t get into Brown. Consider looking at some of the lesser known schools unless your child has cured cancer so they actually stand a chance.


All med schools are good but Brown is not known as one of the better medical schools. I am not sure what you meant by "the cream of the crop". UCSF/Hopkins/Harvard/WashU/UCLA/UCSD/Pitt....etc. All ahead of Brown.

Which one of those has a dual program? Brown is the only Ivy with a joint program, which makes it highly sought after.


Pitt has joint program. Dartmouth is another Ivy that offers combined. Hope that answers your questions.

I would like to know more about the Dartmouth program. I still have questions. Like what is the program called? How does my high schooler apply?
Do you consider Pitt better than Brown? If so, why?


Pitt is one of the best med schools in US.

Can you go beyond simply med school rankings?
I would say Brown undergrad is better, so if there is any chance the child would change their mind, Brown is better. Browns match is amazing.
I’m not familiar with Pitt’s combined program so what makes it unique/better to you would be helpful rather than just “the med school is great”.
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