Horses and Good Schools

[Anonymous]

Brookeville, MD

[Anonymous]

OP here, should have been more clear. Not looking for a working farm with tractors and crops. Looking for a house with pens for a couple of horses. Grew up on a farm in Michigan so save your lecturing that PP's were doing. Appreciate the feedback though outside the snark!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, should have been more clear. Not looking for a working farm with tractors and crops. Looking for a house with pens for a couple of horses. Grew up on a farm in Michigan so save your lecturing that PP's were doing. Appreciate the feedback though outside the snark!

Frederick county is beautiful, good schools and a place to start. Walkersville, Adamstown, Rosemont come to mind, but throughout various towns there will be properties. Find a good realtor who knows the area. We worked with Laura Malec and would highly recommend her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, should have been more clear. Not looking for a working farm with tractors and crops. Looking for a house with pens for a couple of horses. Grew up on a farm in Michigan so save your lecturing that PP's were doing. Appreciate the feedback though outside the snark!

I think Warrenton area would fit the bill for you. These two houses are older, but you'd have plenty of money left over to renovate, and the one tract of land is low enough you could build new.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10083-Clarkes-Rd-Bealeton-VA-22712/299738856_zpid/

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Old-Marsh-Rd-Bealeton-VA-22712/2095550121_zpid/

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4624-Lee-Hwy-Warrenton-VA-20187/12248969_zpid/

[Anonymous]

Much longer commute from DC, but if it's only biweekly it's manageable: Northern Baltimore County. Schools are excellent (Hereford high pyramids). Plenty of horse farms. I'm sure you can find some acres with horse facilities for 900k.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, should have been more clear. Not looking for a working farm with tractors and crops. Looking for a house with pens for a couple of horses. Grew up on a farm in Michigan so save your lecturing that PP's were doing. Appreciate the feedback though outside the snark!

You’re misunderstanding. The experienced horse people are coming on here to say that you need that equipment to tend to your horses and “pens.” (We call them fields or paddocks, depending on size. There’s no need, in this area, for horses without health issues to be regularly kept in a dry lot or small sacrifice area.)

You’ll need the tractor with several attachments to turn the muck pile, bring another round bale out to the field, pull the manure spreader/mower/seed spreader/bush hogger, transport hay bales to your storage area, move dead tree branches off your broken fence, drag your arena, etc.

Agree with others that you may want to start with moving to an area where you can have easy access to an affordable boarding barn. And then eventually work up to keeping your horses at home, if you still want to. You’re not “wasting” money on board. You’re paying for the convenience of not having to do a bedtime check when it’s 15 degrees and sleeting, being able to go away for the weekend on a whim, having others (human and equine) to provide socialization, and more.

[Anonymous]

If you keep horses in your backyard in little dry lots around here, people will call PETA on you. We don’t do that here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, should have been more clear. Not looking for a working farm with tractors and crops. Looking for a house with pens for a couple of horses. Grew up on a farm in Michigan so save your lecturing that PP's were doing. Appreciate the feedback though outside the snark!

You’re misunderstanding. The experienced horse people are coming on here to say that you need that equipment to tend to your horses and “pens.” (We call them fields or paddocks, depending on size. There’s no need, in this area, for horses without health issues to be regularly kept in a dry lot or small sacrifice area.)

You’ll need the tractor with several attachments to turn the muck pile, bring another round bale out to the field, pull the manure spreader/mower/seed spreader/bush hogger, transport hay bales to your storage area, move dead tree branches off your broken fence, drag your arena, etc.

Agree with others that you may want to start with moving to an area where you can have easy access to an affordable boarding barn. And then eventually work up to keeping your horses at home, if you still want to. You’re not “wasting” money on board. You’re paying for the convenience of not having to do a bedtime check when it’s 15 degrees and sleeting, being able to go away for the weekend on a whim, having others (human and equine) to provide socialization, and more.

[Anonymous]

PP again. Also, once you figure out the real estate market, bear in mind that the horse market is insane right now. Grade, Heinz 57-style backyard horses are going for four figures. Cute ponies or anything with a modicum of training, flash or potential are routinely offered in the high fours to mid-fives.

[Anonymous]

Franklin Farms next to Reston has great schools and a community barn where you can board your horses. It might be a great compromise but I worry your budget might not be enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, should have been more clear. Not looking for a working farm with tractors and crops. Looking for a house with pens for a couple of horses. Grew up on a farm in Michigan so save your lecturing that PP's were doing. Appreciate the feedback though outside the snark!

I am the MD horse property PP and I grew up on a 5000 acre cattle farm on the great plains, paid for college with a full-ride rodeo scholarship as a barrel racer, so I do know a little about what you are talking about; and I will tell you very quickly, that owning a horse property here in MD is quite a bit different than the Midwest and where I grew up. You will need at minimum, 2 acres per 1000lb of animal - this is the standard set by every state university's agriculture program. Keeping the horses is pens will run you into trouble during the 6 months of "winter" here, and keeping horses in stalls leads to behavior problems. Dry lots turn into 6 inches of muddy sh*t that then turn into Mud Fever (AKA Scratches) on your horses' feet. Ask me how I know this. The ground does not freeze here, and mud is a problem, no matter how you try to mitigate it, it still happens. So you will need a plan B for those six months otherwise you will be in a constant state of treating bacterial infections in your horses' feet.

Just a couple of pens also doesn't give you a lot of space to ride to actually enjoy the horses, so you will have to trailer out somewhere. Add horse trailer and truck to expenses. Our property did not originally come with an arena and we just put it in this year so I could stop trailering out and for just a small, putter-around, start-a-colt-arena it was 30K.

You will, despite what you think, need at the minimum a UTV or a pickup to move hay, and a zero turn mower (10k used) to keep your property up, you will need snow removal equipment (or the budget to hire someone), the county doesn't plow private drives in the winter, we are on our own. You are also on your own for your driveway maintenance; resealing our drive this year was 5K and it's a every-5 years-thing. I watch our neighbors try to mow on their little garden tractors and it takes them all weekend to get it done, we have a big JD tractor/plow for snow removal and our neighbors pitch in to pay for the diesel to do it. DH is done mowing several acres in less than an hour on our big Kubota. Our JD Gator was 15k used without attachments like snow blower and salt spreader. You can look up truck prices, right now even the used ones are crazy expensive.

Feed prices are high here - my dad grew our own alfalfa on our farm back home and we used to feed it to beef cattle. Here I would not dream of feeding alfalfa to cows for what it costs to buy local or have it shipped in from the west, alfalfa is reserved for the horses that are hard to keep weight on during the winter. I sell our 3rd cutting horse quality orchard super soft grass for $8-$10/square bale, picked up, delivery to barns is more. Regular sweet feed starts at $16/bag for the generic stuff; more for the brand name bags.

Farrier care is higher - $250 for a half set of shoes on just my gelding, my other four are barefoot but still require trims every 5-6 weeks to keep them in good shape. We do our own worming and vaccinations, but just to get the vet out to do annual Coggins and rabies on 5 horses is around $600, and then there are about 3-4 times a year I need her out to look at something on feet or suspected arthritis, allergies, or take an emergency call for colic.

And lastly, a DH that is handy with repairs and can drive machinery is priceless, if your's grew up the way you did that's perfect (mine spent his teenage years fixing fences and tinkering with tractors in the middle of nowhere), but if you have a city boy, plan on hiring out a lot of stuff (or a divorce, because I've seen that happen).

Join those FB groups I recommended so you can start to get a feel for what things costs. Good, safe, bombproof horses are in the high four to mid-five figures out here.

[Anonymous]

Stafford county, particularly Colonial Forge HS, has some very good schools and prices are reasonble for your budget.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Locust-Grove/30390-Catharpin-Rd-22508/home/39586382

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, should have been more clear. Not looking for a working farm with tractors and crops. Looking for a house with pens for a couple of horses. Grew up on a farm in Michigan so save your lecturing that PP's were doing. Appreciate the feedback though outside the snark!

I am the MD horse property PP and I grew up on a 5000 acre cattle farm on the great plains, paid for college with a full-ride rodeo scholarship as a barrel racer, so I do know a little about what you are talking about; and I will tell you very quickly, that owning a horse property here in MD is quite a bit different than the Midwest and where I grew up. You will need at minimum, 2 acres per 1000lb of animal - this is the standard set by every state university's agriculture program. Keeping the horses is pens will run you into trouble during the 6 months of "winter" here, and keeping horses in stalls leads to behavior problems. Dry lots turn into 6 inches of muddy sh*t that then turn into Mud Fever (AKA Scratches) on your horses' feet. Ask me how I know this. The ground does not freeze here, and mud is a problem, no matter how you try to mitigate it, it still happens. So you will need a plan B for those six months otherwise you will be in a constant state of treating bacterial infections in your horses' feet.

Just a couple of pens also doesn't give you a lot of space to ride to actually enjoy the horses, so you will have to trailer out somewhere. Add horse trailer and truck to expenses. Our property did not originally come with an arena and we just put it in this year so I could stop trailering out and for just a small, putter-around, start-a-colt-arena it was 30K.

You will, despite what you think, need at the minimum a UTV or a pickup to move hay, and a zero turn mower (10k used) to keep your property up, you will need snow removal equipment (or the budget to hire someone), the county doesn't plow private drives in the winter, we are on our own. You are also on your own for your driveway maintenance; resealing our drive this year was 5K and it's a every-5 years-thing. I watch our neighbors try to mow on their little garden tractors and it takes them all weekend to get it done, we have a big JD tractor/plow for snow removal and our neighbors pitch in to pay for the diesel to do it. DH is done mowing several acres in less than an hour on our big Kubota. Our JD Gator was 15k used without attachments like snow blower and salt spreader. You can look up truck prices, right now even the used ones are crazy expensive.

Feed prices are high here - my dad grew our own alfalfa on our farm back home and we used to feed it to beef cattle. Here I would not dream of feeding alfalfa to cows for what it costs to buy local or have it shipped in from the west, alfalfa is reserved for the horses that are hard to keep weight on during the winter. I sell our 3rd cutting horse quality orchard super soft grass for $8-$10/square bale, picked up, delivery to barns is more. Regular sweet feed starts at $16/bag for the generic stuff; more for the brand name bags.

Farrier care is higher - $250 for a half set of shoes on just my gelding, my other four are barefoot but still require trims every 5-6 weeks to keep them in good shape. We do our own worming and vaccinations, but just to get the vet out to do annual Coggins and rabies on 5 horses is around $600, and then there are about 3-4 times a year I need her out to look at something on feet or suspected arthritis, allergies, or take an emergency call for colic.

And lastly, a DH that is handy with repairs and can drive machinery is priceless, if your's grew up the way you did that's perfect (mine spent his teenage years fixing fences and tinkering with tractors in the middle of nowhere), but if you have a city boy, plan on hiring out a lot of stuff (or a divorce, because I've seen that happen).

Join those FB groups I recommended so you can start to get a feel for what things costs. Good, safe, bombproof horses are in the high four to mid-five figures out here.

Not OP, but this is super informative Thanks for taking the time to write it all out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, should have been more clear. Not looking for a working farm with tractors and crops. Looking for a house with pens for a couple of horses. Grew up on a farm in Michigan so save your lecturing that PP's were doing. Appreciate the feedback though outside the snark!

I am the MD horse property PP and I grew up on a 5000 acre cattle farm on the great plains, paid for college with a full-ride rodeo scholarship as a barrel racer, so I do know a little about what you are talking about; and I will tell you very quickly, that owning a horse property here in MD is quite a bit different than the Midwest and where I grew up. You will need at minimum, 2 acres per 1000lb of animal - this is the standard set by every state university's agriculture program. Keeping the horses is pens will run you into trouble during the 6 months of "winter" here, and keeping horses in stalls leads to behavior problems. Dry lots turn into 6 inches of muddy sh*t that then turn into Mud Fever (AKA Scratches) on your horses' feet. Ask me how I know this. The ground does not freeze here, and mud is a problem, no matter how you try to mitigate it, it still happens. So you will need a plan B for those six months otherwise you will be in a constant state of treating bacterial infections in your horses' feet.

Just a couple of pens also doesn't give you a lot of space to ride to actually enjoy the horses, so you will have to trailer out somewhere. Add horse trailer and truck to expenses. Our property did not originally come with an arena and we just put it in this year so I could stop trailering out and for just a small, putter-around, start-a-colt-arena it was 30K.

You will, despite what you think, need at the minimum a UTV or a pickup to move hay, and a zero turn mower (10k used) to keep your property up, you will need snow removal equipment (or the budget to hire someone), the county doesn't plow private drives in the winter, we are on our own. You are also on your own for your driveway maintenance; resealing our drive this year was 5K and it's a every-5 years-thing. I watch our neighbors try to mow on their little garden tractors and it takes them all weekend to get it done, we have a big JD tractor/plow for snow removal and our neighbors pitch in to pay for the diesel to do it. DH is done mowing several acres in less than an hour on our big Kubota. Our JD Gator was 15k used without attachments like snow blower and salt spreader. You can look up truck prices, right now even the used ones are crazy expensive.

Feed prices are high here - my dad grew our own alfalfa on our farm back home and we used to feed it to beef cattle. Here I would not dream of feeding alfalfa to cows for what it costs to buy local or have it shipped in from the west, alfalfa is reserved for the horses that are hard to keep weight on during the winter. I sell our 3rd cutting horse quality orchard super soft grass for $8-$10/square bale, picked up, delivery to barns is more. Regular sweet feed starts at $16/bag for the generic stuff; more for the brand name bags.

Farrier care is higher - $250 for a half set of shoes on just my gelding, my other four are barefoot but still require trims every 5-6 weeks to keep them in good shape. We do our own worming and vaccinations, but just to get the vet out to do annual Coggins and rabies on 5 horses is around $600, and then there are about 3-4 times a year I need her out to look at something on feet or suspected arthritis, allergies, or take an emergency call for colic.

And lastly, a DH that is handy with repairs and can drive machinery is priceless, if your's grew up the way you did that's perfect (mine spent his teenage years fixing fences and tinkering with tractors in the middle of nowhere), but if you have a city boy, plan on hiring out a lot of stuff (or a divorce, because I've seen that happen).

Join those FB groups I recommended so you can start to get a feel for what things costs. Good, safe, bombproof horses are in the high four to mid-five figures out here.

Not OP, but this is super informative Thanks for taking the time to write it all out.

Not OP either but I'll be saving this post for when DD asks me for a horse again!

Other suggestions for DMV locations with good community barns for boarding, access to trail riding would be appreciated.

[Anonymous]

I know very little about Upper Marlboro or the school situation, but we drive by this area regularly and they have new homes in your price range with really nice riding facilities too:
https://timberlakehomes.com/communities/marlboro-ridge/