Laying down drowsy or nearly sleeping infant into bassinet/crib

Anonymous
Change the order you do things. First feed, then waketime, then lay baby down for their nap while they’re still awak. This worked with all three of time after a short training period.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Change the order you do things. First feed, then waketime, then lay baby down for their nap while they’re still awak. This worked with all three of time after a short training period.



This always seemed insane to me. Feed a baby (so it’s asleep now). Then wake it up! That’s how to make a good sleeper! I could never wake a sleeping baby just because “They” said it was the wrong time to be asleep.
Anonymous
I never got drowsy but awake to work for either of my kids. I nursed/bottle fed them to sleep until they were ready to be sleep trained.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Change the order you do things. First feed, then waketime, then lay baby down for their nap while they’re still awak. This worked with all three of time after a short training period.



This always seemed insane to me. Feed a baby (so it’s asleep now). Then wake it up! That’s how to make a good sleeper! I could never wake a sleeping baby just because “They” said it was the wrong time to be asleep.


You misunderstand. You’re not waking a sleeping baby. Good grief. You feed the baby after their nap - when they wake up. Then after eating they have their wake time until their next nap.
Anonymous
In the show Maid, it said to play music when you do it. I never tried it and thankfully my kids are passed that stage, but I vowed to give that a go if I ever need to move an infant again!
Anonymous
We warmed the crib with a heatingpad. That helped alot but it was still hit or miss. Just putting down awake never worked.
Anonymous
The sleepy but awake thing is a myth for crappy sleepers. Sorry. I had one of these myself.

Mine was very hard to transfer even dead asleep after nursing.

Do yourself a favor and don't take sleeping tips written for babies who sleep well.
Anonymous
Obviously I don't have research on this, but anecdotally every "bad sleeper" I know of was fed before sleeping.
Anonymous
Buy a snoo. Mom of multiple kids and I had the same issue with my first kids. Got the snoo for my last and it was life changing
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Change the order you do things. First feed, then waketime, then lay baby down for their nap while they’re still awak. This worked with all three of time after a short training period.



This always seemed insane to me. Feed a baby (so it’s asleep now). Then wake it up! That’s how to make a good sleeper! I could never wake a sleeping baby just because “They” said it was the wrong time to be asleep.


It worked great for us. For one thing, you're trying to keep the baby awake during nursing. The baby is not asleep. Early on that was great because it ensured a full feed. Then you do awake time, then swaddle and rock to drowsy, then transfer. Of course we went through the witching hour and occasional holding for naps out of exhaustion/desperation, but for the most part we got an independent sleeper very quickly. That made night feeds much faster/easier and "sleep training" a breeze - we barely had to do anything.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For many, awake but drowsy is a unicorn state that doesn’t exist. I just nursed my kids to deep asleep and transferred them then.


This
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Obviously I don't have research on this, but anecdotally every "bad sleeper" I know of was fed before sleeping.


That's because that's the only way to get them to sleep. If you put them awake in the crib they will scream at you for an hour.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Change the order you do things. First feed, then waketime, then lay baby down for their nap while they’re still awak. This worked with all three of time after a short training period.



This always seemed insane to me. Feed a baby (so it’s asleep now). Then wake it up! That’s how to make a good sleeper! I could never wake a sleeping baby just because “They” said it was the wrong time to be asleep.


It worked great for us. For one thing, you're trying to keep the baby awake during nursing. The baby is not asleep. Early on that was great because it ensured a full feed. Then you do awake time, then swaddle and rock to drowsy, then transfer. Of course we went through the witching hour and occasional holding for naps out of exhaustion/desperation, but for the most part we got an independent sleeper very quickly. That made night feeds much faster/easier and "sleep training" a breeze - we barely had to do anything.


A kid who falls asleep midway through a feed is a good sleeper.

OP these are the types of unhelpful comments you should ignore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Change the order you do things. First feed, then waketime, then lay baby down for their nap while they’re still awak. This worked with all three of time after a short training period.



This always seemed insane to me. Feed a baby (so it’s asleep now). Then wake it up! That’s how to make a good sleeper! I could never wake a sleeping baby just because “They” said it was the wrong time to be asleep.


It worked great for us. For one thing, you're trying to keep the baby awake during nursing. The baby is not asleep. Early on that was great because it ensured a full feed. Then you do awake time, then swaddle and rock to drowsy, then transfer. Of course we went through the witching hour and occasional holding for naps out of exhaustion/desperation, but for the most part we got an independent sleeper very quickly. That made night feeds much faster/easier and "sleep training" a breeze - we barely had to do anything.


A kid who falls asleep midway through a feed is a good sleeper.

OP these are the types of unhelpful comments you should ignore.



What? This is helpful. I’m explaining to OP how we got a reliably independent sleeper with minimal fuss. We did Taking Cara Babies but the same thing is in Baby Whisperer, etc. Separating feeding and sleeping was very helpful for us.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Change the order you do things. First feed, then waketime, then lay baby down for their nap while they’re still awak. This worked with all three of time after a short training period.



This always seemed insane to me. Feed a baby (so it’s asleep now). Then wake it up! That’s how to make a good sleeper! I could never wake a sleeping baby just because “They” said it was the wrong time to be asleep.


It worked great for us. For one thing, you're trying to keep the baby awake during nursing. The baby is not asleep. Early on that was great because it ensured a full feed. Then you do awake time, then swaddle and rock to drowsy, then transfer. Of course we went through the witching hour and occasional holding for naps out of exhaustion/desperation, but for the most part we got an independent sleeper very quickly. That made night feeds much faster/easier and "sleep training" a breeze - we barely had to do anything.


A kid who falls asleep midway through a feed is a good sleeper.

OP these are the types of unhelpful comments you should ignore.



What? This is helpful. I’m explaining to OP how we got a reliably independent sleeper with minimal fuss. We did Taking Cara Babies but the same thing is in Baby Whisperer, etc. Separating feeding and sleeping was very helpful for us.


Honey bun, if your baby was falling asleep mid feed they were not a difficult sleeper. The standard techniques do not work on bad sleepers. I wasted so much time looking at recommend nap schedules, wondering why my baby woke up in 20 minutes, drinking cold coffee, spending 30 minutes putting baby down (spoiler alert: baby isn't actually tired) only for him to wake up 45 minutes later, spending 10 minutes SLOOOOOOWLY lowering him to the crib, SLOOOOOOWLY taking my hand off him only to have him wake up one minute later. Had a second baby and figured out what was wrong: #1 was a crappy sleeper. I should have ignored the standard advice and kept him up longer than recommended for his age so he was actually tired and accepted the fact his maximum nap was 30-45 minutes after 3 hours of wake time. Maybe the put the baby to bed awake but tired advice would have worked if I wasn't trying to follow a standard nap schedule. I don't know. Just wish someone would have told me some babies are crappy sleepers.

People who had bad sleepers should take advice from others who had bad sleepers.

I could strangle someone any time they say "don't rush in as soon as you hear a whimper". Bad sleepers are from 0 to 100 in about a second. If you have a bad sleeper you're too tired to leap out of bed anyway.

If you *must* sleep train a bad sleeper mom should leave the house while it is happening because it will be very unpleasant for her. Think screaming for hours. We got up to 45 minutes and that was enough for me.
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