Looking for ideas about how to help DC school attract subs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Find SAH moms with appropriate degrees. That's what our school is relying on and it seems to be going well.

Our school is doing this. I am subbing. I would only do this at my children’s school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Find SAH moms with appropriate degrees. That's what our school is relying on and it seems to be going well.

Our school is doing this. I am subbing. I would only do this at my children’s school.

That's why it works. Also kids are better behaved if they know the sub and know that the sub knows their parents.

[Anonymous]

I'm a college professor. I think it would be somewhat fun to come in and sub at my kids' elementary school. They are paying $16 an hour. Sorry, but I'd rather just stay home and watch TV because that is an offensive rate of pay. I'm teaching a little training session to a company next week for $500/hour. I'd probably sub for $30 an hour, which is like 10% of what I'm typically worth and still less than most teachers in FCPS make on an hourly basis (if you really divide their salaries by their hours worked)

[Anonymous]

If the school is known for behavioral problems then that is your biggest issue. No sub wants to be cursed at, assualted or deal with chaos all day

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a college professor. I think it would be somewhat fun to come in and sub at my kids' elementary school. They are paying $16 an hour. Sorry, but I'd rather just stay home and watch TV because that is an offensive rate of pay. I'm teaching a little training session to a company next week for $500/hour. I'd probably sub for $30 an hour, which is like 10% of what I'm typically worth and still less than most teachers in FCPS make on an hourly basis (if you really divide their salaries by their hours worked)

Me, too. I'd want to be paid more than what a high school babysitter can get watching 1 or 2 kids--all under the table so effectively much more. $30 an hour is probably the least I'd consider.

Other things you can offer subs is a clear message to all the students that you don't mess with subs and behaviors will be taken seriously. Give all subs a text message number they can subtly press to call if they start to feel like they need backup. An administrator should be able to get to the classroom in 5 minutes or less, even if just to be a presence.

And give them basic training on classroom management for the ages they'll be working with. Does that exist? Could be a brief video for each grade grouping--here's how pk and k work. Here's how 1-3rd work, here's how 4&5 work. And clear written instructions for how the class handles specials, lunch, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a college professor. I think it would be somewhat fun to come in and sub at my kids' elementary school. They are paying $16 an hour. Sorry, but I'd rather just stay home and watch TV because that is an offensive rate of pay. I'm teaching a little training session to a company next week for $500/hour. I'd probably sub for $30 an hour, which is like 10% of what I'm typically worth and still less than most teachers in FCPS make on an hourly basis (if you really divide their salaries by their hours worked)

What makes you think teachers only work during school hours. Many teachers work evenings and weekends to get all the grading, etc. done. Not to mention recommendation letters, extra review sessions for AP classes, helping out at after school events, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a college professor. I think it would be somewhat fun to come in and sub at my kids' elementary school. They are paying $16 an hour. Sorry, but I'd rather just stay home and watch TV because that is an offensive rate of pay. I'm teaching a little training session to a company next week for $500/hour. I'd probably sub for $30 an hour, which is like 10% of what I'm typically worth and still less than most teachers in FCPS make on an hourly basis (if you really divide their salaries by their hours worked)

What makes you think teachers only work during school hours. Many teachers work evenings and weekends to get all the grading, etc. done. Not to mention recommendation letters, extra review sessions for AP classes, helping out at after school events, etc.

I think that’s what the PP was referring to when they said “if you really divide”.

[Anonymous]

what is the link to apply?

thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hire a subs to work full time at one school. They know they will have a steady paycheck. And they get to know the kids which will make classroom management easier. And pay them at least what an instructional assistant makes.

And in the off chance that a sub isn’t needed that day, I’m sure there are other projects they can help with.

💯 THIS!! Every school needs a permanent sub. - a teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hire a subs to work full time at one school. They know they will have a steady paycheck. And they get to know the kids which will make classroom management easier. And pay them at least what an instructional assistant makes.

And in the off chance that a sub isn’t needed that day, I’m sure there are other projects they can help with.

💯 THIS!! Every school needs a permanent sub. - a teacher

The chancellor announced a few weeks ago that every school would. Meanwhile we have four staff out on FMLA plus any number out on a daily basis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a college professor. I think it would be somewhat fun to come in and sub at my kids' elementary school. They are paying $16 an hour. Sorry, but I'd rather just stay home and watch TV because that is an offensive rate of pay. I'm teaching a little training session to a company next week for $500/hour. I'd probably sub for $30 an hour, which is like 10% of what I'm typically worth and still less than most teachers in FCPS make on an hourly basis (if you really divide their salaries by their hours worked)

Me, too. I'd want to be paid more than what a high school babysitter can get watching 1 or 2 kids--all under the table so effectively much more. $30 an hour is probably the least I'd consider.

Other things you can offer subs is a clear message to all the students that you don't mess with subs and behaviors will be taken seriously. Give all subs a text message number they can subtly press to call if they start to feel like they need backup. An administrator should be able to get to the classroom in 5 minutes or less, even if just to be a presence.

And give them basic training on classroom management for the ages they'll be working with. Does that exist? Could be a brief video for each grade grouping--here's how pk and k work. Here's how 1-3rd work, here's how 4&5 work. And clear written instructions for how the class handles specials, lunch, etc.

+1

This post says it all. Pay more, which I know schools can’t control. Have a zero tolerance policy for misbehavior- this the school can control. At least just move misbehaving kids to the office or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a college professor. I think it would be somewhat fun to come in and sub at my kids' elementary school. They are paying $16 an hour. Sorry, but I'd rather just stay home and watch TV because that is an offensive rate of pay. I'm teaching a little training session to a company next week for $500/hour. I'd probably sub for $30 an hour, which is like 10% of what I'm typically worth and still less than most teachers in FCPS make on an hourly basis (if you really divide their salaries by their hours worked)

A sub is not worth a teacher unless they are long term and making their own lesson plans.

I hear you though, pay is crap and might as well get an easier job for the same pay. Which is what people have done before the pandemic even.

I feel bad OP, I hope you weren’t expecting real solutions because it’s not in your school’s control. Tell your admin to help advocate for better pay for subs AND paras.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a college professor. I think it would be somewhat fun to come in and sub at my kids' elementary school. They are paying $16 an hour. Sorry, but I'd rather just stay home and watch TV because that is an offensive rate of pay. I'm teaching a little training session to a company next week for $500/hour. I'd probably sub for $30 an hour, which is like 10% of what I'm typically worth and still less than most teachers in FCPS make on an hourly basis (if you really divide their salaries by their hours worked)

A sub is not worth a teacher unless they are long term and making their own lesson plans.

I hear you though, pay is crap and might as well get an easier job for the same pay. Which is what people have done before the pandemic even.

I feel bad OP, I hope you weren’t expecting real solutions because it’s not in your school’s control. Tell your admin to help advocate for better pay for subs AND paras.

Well OP asked for suggestions for where to post to attract applicants. And maybe two or three posters actually answered the question asked. So I do think OP was expecting real solutions, I don’t think OP thought people just ignore the question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a college professor. I think it would be somewhat fun to come in and sub at my kids' elementary school. They are paying $16 an hour. Sorry, but I'd rather just stay home and watch TV because that is an offensive rate of pay. I'm teaching a little training session to a company next week for $500/hour. I'd probably sub for $30 an hour, which is like 10% of what I'm typically worth and still less than most teachers in FCPS make on an hourly basis (if you really divide their salaries by their hours worked)

You are missing out! I am subbing this year to help out, and despite being extremely challenging with some humbling moments, it has been a joy. At a time when parents aren’t allowed in the building, I am giving my kids fist bumps in the hallway, really getting to know their teachers, and understanding the content being taught.

OP,
I think your best bet is to look within. Are there parents that stay home or have flexible schedules? Could lots of folks commit to just one day a week? Also, be sure to loop your principal in from the beginning, they can make the hiring process relatively simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a college professor. I think it would be somewhat fun to come in and sub at my kids' elementary school. They are paying $16 an hour. Sorry, but I'd rather just stay home and watch TV because that is an offensive rate of pay. I'm teaching a little training session to a company next week for $500/hour. I'd probably sub for $30 an hour, which is like 10% of what I'm typically worth and still less than most teachers in FCPS make on an hourly basis (if you really divide their salaries by their hours worked)

You are missing out! I am subbing this year to help out, and despite being extremely challenging with some humbling moments, it has been a joy. At a time when parents aren’t allowed in the building, I am giving my kids fist bumps in the hallway, really getting to know their teachers, and understanding the content being taught.

OP,
I think your best bet is to look within. Are there parents that stay home or have flexible schedules? Could lots of folks commit to just one day a week? Also, be sure to loop your principal in from the beginning, they can make the hiring process relatively simple.

Not OP but I know the situation. There are not a lot of stay at home parents. This isn’t Bancroft where an outdoor lunch duty list circulated and dozens of parents signed up. The principal has asked teachers and parents to help recruit because central office can’t or won’t.