How good do you need to be to go pro (womens)?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who was a MLS pro soccer player in the US but she only made something like 20k a year so she had to have another job. In the US, at least, it can be brutal. The big stars make all their money in endorsements.


A woman playing in MLS?


Not OP- I read this and didn't even catch it!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who was a MLS pro soccer player in the US but she only made something like 20k a year so she had to have another job. In the US, at least, it can be brutal. The big stars make all their money in endorsements.


A woman playing in MLS?


Not OP- I read this and didn't even catch it!


Dane Brekken Shea
Anonymous
How good do you need to be? Better than the worst person on the team or trying out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who was a MLS pro soccer player in the US but she only made something like 20k a year so she had to have another job. In the US, at least, it can be brutal. The big stars make all their money in endorsements.


A woman playing in MLS?


Not OP- I read this and didn't even catch it!


Dane Brekken Shea


Because of the long blonde hair? Way to stereotype.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How good do you need to be? Better than the worst person on the team or trying out.


You need to be one of the best players on your college team and that does not mean you will make a pro team. NWSL increased their roster to 28 players. So 280 players in total. Remember you are not beating out USWNT members, oversea NT players, etc. So you have to win your position from an existing pro player. Let’s say you play defense. There are 80-90 defenders in NWSL. You in the top 100 defenders in the country and oversea?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How good do you need to be? Better than the worst person on the team or trying out.


You need to be one of the best players on your college team and that does not mean you will make a pro team. NWSL increased their roster to 28 players. So 280 players in total. Remember you are not beating out USWNT members, oversea NT players, etc. So you have to win your position from an existing pro player. Let’s say you play defense. There are 80-90 defenders in NWSL. You in the top 100 defenders in the country and oversea?


According to OP, her DD is interested in the "Scottish women's league, Irish women's league, Swiss league" so she can be significantly worse than one of the top 100 defenders in the county and still accomplish her goals
Anonymous
For the heck of it, I just watched part of some matches from the women's Scottish league. I'd put it on par with lower end D1 college soccer. Nothing extraordinary. Some players don't even look that fit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How good do you need to be? Better than the worst person on the team or trying out.


You need to be one of the best players on your college team and that does not mean you will make a pro team. NWSL increased their roster to 28 players. So 280 players in total. Remember you are not beating out USWNT members, oversea NT players, etc. So you have to win your position from an existing pro player. Let’s say you play defense. There are 80-90 defenders in NWSL. You in the top 100 defenders in the country and oversea?


According to OP, her DD is interested in the "Scottish women's league, Irish women's league, Swiss league" so she can be significantly worse than one of the top 100 defenders in the county and still accomplish her goals


Those leagues are better vs women college soccer and you need a work permit. Have you watched any of those league? She would need to be a college stand out.
Anonymous
This is interesting. She was a very good player- very technical for Georgetown.

Earlier this week, we caught up with former Hoya Daphne Corboz (C'15). Today, we were lucky enough to chat with her younger sister and also former Hoya standout, Rachel Corboz (C'18). The younger Corboz also took her talents to play professionally in France, currently for Stade de Reims. During her time on the Hilltop, Corboz was a two-time MAC Hermann Trophy semifinalist and All-American. She was tabbed BIG EAST Midfielder of the Year twice, as well as a four-time All-BIG EAST honoree. She led GU to win the program's first back-to-back BIG EAST Championship title and the league's regular season title, all in the same season, as well as a trip to the 2016 College Cup…

…. How has it been for you so far, has it been a difficult adjustment? How would you describe the style of soccer compared to playing at Georgetown?

Corboz: When going from collegiate soccer to professional soccer, there is definitely an adjustment to be made. During my first year as a professional, I was fortunate enough to play on the same team as my older sister, which definitely made my adjustment to a new team, style of play, culture, etc. a lot easier. I have found that in the professional game the girls are all around more complete players and the game itself is much more technical and faster than the college game….


https://guhoyas.com/news/2020/9/11/womens-soccer-hoyas-in-the-pros-rachel-corboz.aspx

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting. She was a very good player- very technical for Georgetown.

Earlier this week, we caught up with former Hoya Daphne Corboz (C'15). Today, we were lucky enough to chat with her younger sister and also former Hoya standout, Rachel Corboz (C'18). The younger Corboz also took her talents to play professionally in France, currently for Stade de Reims. During her time on the Hilltop, Corboz was a two-time MAC Hermann Trophy semifinalist and All-American. She was tabbed BIG EAST Midfielder of the Year twice, as well as a four-time All-BIG EAST honoree. She led GU to win the program's first back-to-back BIG EAST Championship title and the league's regular season title, all in the same season, as well as a trip to the 2016 College Cup…

…. How has it been for you so far, has it been a difficult adjustment? How would you describe the style of soccer compared to playing at Georgetown?

Corboz: When going from collegiate soccer to professional soccer, there is definitely an adjustment to be made. During my first year as a professional, I was fortunate enough to play on the same team as my older sister, which definitely made my adjustment to a new team, style of play, culture, etc. a lot easier. I have found that in the professional game the girls are all around more complete players and the game itself is much more technical and faster than the college game….


https://guhoyas.com/news/2020/9/11/womens-soccer-hoyas-in-the-pros-rachel-corboz.aspx



The reoccurring theme is speed of play, athleticism and technical skill is much higher when compared to college.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting. She was a very good player- very technical for Georgetown.

Earlier this week, we caught up with former Hoya Daphne Corboz (C'15). Today, we were lucky enough to chat with her younger sister and also former Hoya standout, Rachel Corboz (C'18). The younger Corboz also took her talents to play professionally in France, currently for Stade de Reims. During her time on the Hilltop, Corboz was a two-time MAC Hermann Trophy semifinalist and All-American. She was tabbed BIG EAST Midfielder of the Year twice, as well as a four-time All-BIG EAST honoree. She led GU to win the program's first back-to-back BIG EAST Championship title and the league's regular season title, all in the same season, as well as a trip to the 2016 College Cup…

…. How has it been for you so far, has it been a difficult adjustment? How would you describe the style of soccer compared to playing at Georgetown?

Corboz: When going from collegiate soccer to professional soccer, there is definitely an adjustment to be made. During my first year as a professional, I was fortunate enough to play on the same team as my older sister, which definitely made my adjustment to a new team, style of play, culture, etc. a lot easier. I have found that in the professional game the girls are all around more complete players and the game itself is much more technical and faster than the college game….


https://guhoyas.com/news/2020/9/11/womens-soccer-hoyas-in-the-pros-rachel-corboz.aspx



The reoccurring theme is speed of play, athleticism and technical skill is much higher when compared to college.


But how good are the worst players on these teams? Are they all premier-level NCAA D1 players like Ms. Corobz or not? OP's DD only needs to be better than the worst player on any current team... although probably by a decent marging since there might be work visa issues etc that are more trouble than they're worth for any of these clubs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting. She was a very good player- very technical for Georgetown.

Earlier this week, we caught up with former Hoya Daphne Corboz (C'15). Today, we were lucky enough to chat with her younger sister and also former Hoya standout, Rachel Corboz (C'18). The younger Corboz also took her talents to play professionally in France, currently for Stade de Reims. During her time on the Hilltop, Corboz was a two-time MAC Hermann Trophy semifinalist and All-American. She was tabbed BIG EAST Midfielder of the Year twice, as well as a four-time All-BIG EAST honoree. She led GU to win the program's first back-to-back BIG EAST Championship title and the league's regular season title, all in the same season, as well as a trip to the 2016 College Cup…

…. How has it been for you so far, has it been a difficult adjustment? How would you describe the style of soccer compared to playing at Georgetown?

Corboz: When going from collegiate soccer to professional soccer, there is definitely an adjustment to be made. During my first year as a professional, I was fortunate enough to play on the same team as my older sister, which definitely made my adjustment to a new team, style of play, culture, etc. a lot easier. I have found that in the professional game the girls are all around more complete players and the game itself is much more technical and faster than the college game….


https://guhoyas.com/news/2020/9/11/womens-soccer-hoyas-in-the-pros-rachel-corboz.aspx



The reoccurring theme is speed of play, athleticism and technical skill is much higher when compared to college.


But how good are the worst players on these teams? Are they all premier-level NCAA D1 players like Ms. Corobz or not? OP's DD only needs to be better than the worst player on any current team... although probably by a decent marging since there might be work visa issues etc that are more trouble than they're worth for any of these clubs.


Believe it or not the women's pro league is higher level of soccer vs college. Corobz is an average player in the pro league. She was really good on college. An average college player will not make the pro league. Just does not happen. You have to be top 10% in college.
Anonymous
Yep. Candidate for player of the year in college D1 a few years ago can’t even get playing time with the Thorns.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DD is in college, plays in the Ivy League. Wants to play pro for a few years for fun before going to grad school. We'll be supporting her so money isn't really the issue. She is open to living abroad since this is for fun. Leaving aside visas, how difficult is it (as in what is the level of play) in e.g. the Scottish women's league, Irish women's league, Swiss league, etc. How do they compare with NWSL teams? Not looking at Chelsea or Barcelona or that level.


Women’s football in Scotland is mostly amateur, a few have gone professional or semi-pro in the last few years. Fairly sure your daughter would be able to get a team although maybe not pro. Perhaps she could consider combining it with a year of study in Scotland, there are a few very good universities, and that would also resolve visa issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD is in college, plays in the Ivy League. Wants to play pro for a few years for fun before going to grad school. We'll be supporting her so money isn't really the issue. She is open to living abroad since this is for fun. Leaving aside visas, how difficult is it (as in what is the level of play) in e.g. the Scottish women's league, Irish women's league, Swiss league, etc. How do they compare with NWSL teams? Not looking at Chelsea or Barcelona or that level.


Women’s football in Scotland is mostly amateur, a few have gone professional or semi-pro in the last few years. Fairly sure your daughter would be able to get a team although maybe not pro. Perhaps she could consider combining it with a year of study in Scotland, there are a few very good universities, and that would also resolve visa issues.


You know the SWPL 1 qualify directly for the Round of 32 of the UEFA Women's Champions League? They would be playing against PSG and Barca women’s team. Those team would beat the USWNT. Do you actually follow any of the women leagues in Europe?
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