What test range to look at?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, here. Yeah, I guess by 2019-2020 vs 2020-2021 I was referring to those admissions years (so the classes of 2024 and 2025, respectively). Makes sense to look at the classes of 2023 and 2024 I think.

NP here.

Do the years refer to the year the student is first enrolled in college, or the year the students are seniors in HS?

For example, does 2020-2021 represent kids who graduated from HS in 2020 and entered for the 2020-2021 academic year.... or kids who were seniors in 2020-2021 and thus have only recently started college?

OP was asking about the admission seasons, 2020-21 being high school class of 2021, college class of 2025. This was the first year for widely adopted test optional policies.

But, that is not how Common Data Sets are labeled. CDS 2020-2021 has admission data for high school class of 2020, college class of 2024, aka freshmen fall 2020. College class of 2024 was the last non- test optional year.

Class of 2025 data will be published in Common Data Set 2021-2022, some time over the winter and spring 2022.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, here. Yeah, I guess by 2019-2020 vs 2020-2021 I was referring to those admissions years (so the classes of 2024 and 2025, respectively). Makes sense to look at the classes of 2023 and 2024 I think.

NP here.

Do the years refer to the year the student is first enrolled in college, or the year the students are seniors in HS?

For example, does 2020-2021 represent kids who graduated from HS in 2020 and entered for the 2020-2021 academic year.... or kids who were seniors in 2020-2021 and thus have only recently started college?

OP was asking about the admission seasons, 2020-21 being high school class of 2021, college class of 2025. This was the first year for widely adopted test optional policies.

But, that is not how Common Data Sets are labeled. CDS 2020-2021 has admission data for high school class of 2020, college class of 2024, aka freshmen fall 2020. College class of 2024 was the last non- test optional year.

Class of 2025 data will be published in Common Data Set 2021-2022, some time over the winter and spring 2022.

Which means, if I'm understanding right, that all of the Common Data Set information that is currently available is based on pre-COVID/pre-test optional cycles. Meaning, the insanely high score ranges from some of these schools is not simply a biproduct of many kids not submitting.

I'm astounding by the number of schools where the 25th-75th percentile score ranges for students range from about the top 1-2 percent of all scores or (maybe) 1-3 percent. How is it that 1 percent of students are filling the top 25 percent of so many colleges?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, here. Yeah, I guess by 2019-2020 vs 2020-2021 I was referring to those admissions years (so the classes of 2024 and 2025, respectively). Makes sense to look at the classes of 2023 and 2024 I think.

NP here.

Do the years refer to the year the student is first enrolled in college, or the year the students are seniors in HS?

For example, does 2020-2021 represent kids who graduated from HS in 2020 and entered for the 2020-2021 academic year.... or kids who were seniors in 2020-2021 and thus have only recently started college?

OP was asking about the admission seasons, 2020-21 being high school class of 2021, college class of 2025. This was the first year for widely adopted test optional policies.

But, that is not how Common Data Sets are labeled. CDS 2020-2021 has admission data for high school class of 2020, college class of 2024, aka freshmen fall 2020. College class of 2024 was the last non- test optional year.

Class of 2025 data will be published in Common Data Set 2021-2022, some time over the winter and spring 2022.

Which means, if I'm understanding right, that all of the Common Data Set information that is currently available is based on pre-COVID/pre-test optional cycles. Meaning, the insanely high score ranges from some of these schools is not simply a biproduct of many kids not submitting.

I'm astounding by the number of schools where the 25th-75th percentile score ranges for students range from about the top 1-2 percent of all scores or (maybe) 1-3 percent. How is it that 1 percent of students are filling the top 25 percent of so many colleges?

In part due to superscoring.

Yes, all currently available CDS (2020-2021) are pre-covid for scores, though the waitlist data in the 2020-2021 CDS for class of 2024 was majorly impacted by covid, lots more waitlist acceptances than usual, whereas class of 2025 we will see the opposite, very little (which is more typical)

A few colleges might get their 2021-2022 CDS up in the fall, but not many.

(As always, be careful to distinguish between the actual CDS and non-standardized class profile data.)