FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Well-funded is FairFACTS matters who raised over 40 grand in a couple of months. They are less well funded because the GFCA realized how toxic they are.

Not a member of FairFacts. I've no idea who is running it. But, if you think 40 grand will compete with FCPS who spends millions and millions every day with no thought, 40 grand is miniscule. David vs Goliath.

1.$500K along on a "consultant" that is providing cover for the School board. And, I seriously doubt that the $$$ to Thru will stop at $500K--on a no bid contract.

2. Do you think all these meetings with communities are free? Custodians, staffing, etc? Do you think staff is not being paid for this?

3. A "lottery" with witnesses and video proving that something smells--and no serious response from FCPS.

4. Committee members who are known activists that will support the School Board. (Irony alert--one of the proponents of the SB and "equity warrior" does not want her own neighborhood moved. Talk about hypocrite.)

5. Using overcrowding as an excuse when the most overcrowded schools are functioning well. And, one of them will rapidly lose population over the next years.

6. No discussion on the School Board about eliminating IB which would limit pupil placement and likely bring "more affluent" students back to less affluent schools--and, incidentally bring great savings to FCPS--by eliminating need for high school redistricting and keeping the community happy.

7. Going through with this when so many citizens and families are worried about careers and future.

This is the last thing Fairfax County needs right now.

What idiotic comments.
The district needs the solve over and under crowding of our schools, but some people just need to keep making it about them and their "house values" which we all know is code for redlining and keeping "the poors" out.
FCPS taped the lottery with a lawyer and the Fairfax PTSA President. If that isn't good enough for you, nothing will be
Stop going after parents and volunteers on the committee because it just makes you look like a bigger liar than you already are.

1. When you don't have a good argument, crying racism is your fallback. If schools are overcrowded, then fix them. Right now, it appears that is not a problem with the high schools. We know that population is falling in some of them and those schools seem to be working. And, there are many schools that are working fine, but will be dominoed into this process.
2. Yes, the lottery was taped. That is a good thing, but we still do not know what happened. It has been reported that there were other issues aside from #35. Why hasn't there been a decent explanation?
3. What makes me a liar? Did not one of the BRAC committee members claim that her neighborhood should not be moved?

Amen. She and her other compatriot love to cry racism and staying away from poor people, when in reality, they’re more racist and classist than anyone they attack.

Pathetic school board lapdogs, and as been said before, very clearly gatehouse.

I think they are parents who want to move other kids into their schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well-funded is FairFACTS matters who raised over 40 grand in a couple of months. They are less well funded because the GFCA realized how toxic they are.

Not a member of FairFacts. I've no idea who is running it. But, if you think 40 grand will compete with FCPS who spends millions and millions every day with no thought, 40 grand is miniscule. David vs Goliath.

1.$500K along on a "consultant" that is providing cover for the School board. And, I seriously doubt that the $$$ to Thru will stop at $500K--on a no bid contract.

2. Do you think all these meetings with communities are free? Custodians, staffing, etc? Do you think staff is not being paid for this?

3. A "lottery" with witnesses and video proving that something smells--and no serious response from FCPS.

4. Committee members who are known activists that will support the School Board. (Irony alert--one of the proponents of the SB and "equity warrior" does not want her own neighborhood moved. Talk about hypocrite.)

5. Using overcrowding as an excuse when the most overcrowded schools are functioning well. And, one of them will rapidly lose population over the next years.

6. No discussion on the School Board about eliminating IB which would limit pupil placement and likely bring "more affluent" students back to less affluent schools--and, incidentally bring great savings to FCPS--by eliminating need for high school redistricting and keeping the community happy.

7. Going through with this when so many citizens and families are worried about careers and future.

This is the last thing Fairfax County needs right now.

What idiotic comments.
The district needs the solve over and under crowding of our schools, but some people just need to keep making it about them and their "house values" which we all know is code for redlining and keeping "the poors" out.
FCPS taped the lottery with a lawyer and the Fairfax PTSA President. If that isn't good enough for you, nothing will be
Stop going after parents and volunteers on the committee because it just makes you look like a bigger liar than you already are.

1. When you don't have a good argument, crying racism is your fallback. If schools are overcrowded, then fix them. Right now, it appears that is not a problem with the high schools. We know that population is falling in some of them and those schools seem to be working. And, there are many schools that are working fine, but will be dominoed into this process.
2. Yes, the lottery was taped. That is a good thing, but we still do not know what happened. It has been reported that there were other issues aside from #35. Why hasn't there been a decent explanation?
3. What makes me a liar? Did not one of the BRAC committee members claim that her neighborhood should not be moved?

Amen. She and her other compatriot love to cry racism and staying away from poor people, when in reality, they’re more racist and classist than anyone they attack.

Pathetic school board lapdogs, and as been said before, very clearly gatehouse.

I think they are parents who want to move other kids into their schools.

Perhaps, but also not mutually exclusive. I do think the gatehouse employees on BRAC and the school board members should have all their kids redistricted as part of this process. And maybe it can be put to a vote for any families moved where those kids should end up.

It’s only fair, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well-funded is FairFACTS matters who raised over 40 grand in a couple of months. They are less well funded because the GFCA realized how toxic they are.

Not a member of FairFacts. I've no idea who is running it. But, if you think 40 grand will compete with FCPS who spends millions and millions every day with no thought, 40 grand is miniscule. David vs Goliath.

1.$500K along on a "consultant" that is providing cover for the School board. And, I seriously doubt that the $$$ to Thru will stop at $500K--on a no bid contract.

2. Do you think all these meetings with communities are free? Custodians, staffing, etc? Do you think staff is not being paid for this?

3. A "lottery" with witnesses and video proving that something smells--and no serious response from FCPS.

4. Committee members who are known activists that will support the School Board. (Irony alert--one of the proponents of the SB and "equity warrior" does not want her own neighborhood moved. Talk about hypocrite.)

5. Using overcrowding as an excuse when the most overcrowded schools are functioning well. And, one of them will rapidly lose population over the next years.

6. No discussion on the School Board about eliminating IB which would limit pupil placement and likely bring "more affluent" students back to less affluent schools--and, incidentally bring great savings to FCPS--by eliminating need for high school redistricting and keeping the community happy.

7. Going through with this when so many citizens and families are worried about careers and future.

This is the last thing Fairfax County needs right now.

What idiotic comments.
The district needs the solve over and under crowding of our schools, but some people just need to keep making it about them and their "house values" which we all know is code for redlining and keeping "the poors" out.
FCPS taped the lottery with a lawyer and the Fairfax PTSA President. If that isn't good enough for you, nothing will be
Stop going after parents and volunteers on the committee because it just makes you look like a bigger liar than you already are.

1. When you don't have a good argument, crying racism is your fallback. If schools are overcrowded, then fix them. Right now, it appears that is not a problem with the high schools. We know that population is falling in some of them and those schools seem to be working. And, there are many schools that are working fine, but will be dominoed into this process.
2. Yes, the lottery was taped. That is a good thing, but we still do not know what happened. It has been reported that there were other issues aside from #35. Why hasn't there been a decent explanation?
3. What makes me a liar? Did not one of the BRAC committee members claim that her neighborhood should not be moved?

Amen. She and her other compatriot love to cry racism and staying away from poor people, when in reality, they’re more racist and classist than anyone they attack.

Pathetic school board lapdogs, and as been said before, very clearly gatehouse.

I think they are parents who want to move other kids into their schools.

In some instances, they just want to see successful schools brought down a notch. You can't spend any time watching some of the School Board members or partisans in groups like "4 Public Education" without very quickly noticing how much they resent certain schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate how people on this thread keep saying “no one wants boundary changes” when there are posts supportive of a comprehensive review and explaining the reasons. More bullying and dismissiveness by the well-funded, self-interested, entitled opponents.

It does seem like those who want everything to always stay the same are trolling this thread like stormtroopers. Bullying and threatening those who cross them. They must be fun at parties.

I wonder if you ever stop and think about how your far left positions are basically the equivalent of the MAGA movement in our country. Both sides are looking to inflict pain on their neighbors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well-funded is FairFACTS matters who raised over 40 grand in a couple of months. They are less well funded because the GFCA realized how toxic they are.

Not a member of FairFacts. I've no idea who is running it. But, if you think 40 grand will compete with FCPS who spends millions and millions every day with no thought, 40 grand is miniscule. David vs Goliath.

1.$500K along on a "consultant" that is providing cover for the School board. And, I seriously doubt that the $$$ to Thru will stop at $500K--on a no bid contract.

2. Do you think all these meetings with communities are free? Custodians, staffing, etc? Do you think staff is not being paid for this?

3. A "lottery" with witnesses and video proving that something smells--and no serious response from FCPS.

4. Committee members who are known activists that will support the School Board. (Irony alert--one of the proponents of the SB and "equity warrior" does not want her own neighborhood moved. Talk about hypocrite.)

5. Using overcrowding as an excuse when the most overcrowded schools are functioning well. And, one of them will rapidly lose population over the next years.

6. No discussion on the School Board about eliminating IB which would limit pupil placement and likely bring "more affluent" students back to less affluent schools--and, incidentally bring great savings to FCPS--by eliminating need for high school redistricting and keeping the community happy.

7. Going through with this when so many citizens and families are worried about careers and future.

This is the last thing Fairfax County needs right now.

What idiotic comments.
The district needs the solve over and under crowding of our schools, but some people just need to keep making it about them and their "house values" which we all know is code for redlining and keeping "the poors" out.
FCPS taped the lottery with a lawyer and the Fairfax PTSA President. If that isn't good enough for you, nothing will be
Stop going after parents and volunteers on the committee because it just makes you look like a bigger liar than you already are.

1. When you don't have a good argument, crying racism is your fallback. If schools are overcrowded, then fix them. Right now, it appears that is not a problem with the high schools. We know that population is falling in some of them and those schools seem to be working. And, there are many schools that are working fine, but will be dominoed into this process.
2. Yes, the lottery was taped. That is a good thing, but we still do not know what happened. It has been reported that there were other issues aside from #35. Why hasn't there been a decent explanation?
3. What makes me a liar? Did not one of the BRAC committee members claim that her neighborhood should not be moved?

Amen. She and her other compatriot love to cry racism and staying away from poor people, when in reality, they’re more racist and classist than anyone they attack.

Pathetic school board lapdogs, and as been said before, very clearly gatehouse.

I think they are parents who want to move other kids into their schools.

Perhaps, but also not mutually exclusive. I do think the gatehouse employees on BRAC and the school board members should have all their kids redistricted as part of this process. And maybe it can be put to a vote for any families moved where those kids should end up.

It’s only fair, right?

A lot of the School Board members don't have kids or have kids who are already out of high school. They are in it to favor their own neighbors or boost their own housing equity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate how people on this thread keep saying “no one wants boundary changes” when there are posts supportive of a comprehensive review and explaining the reasons. More bullying and dismissiveness by the well-funded, self-interested, entitled opponents.

It does seem like those who want everything to always stay the same are trolling this thread like stormtroopers. Bullying and threatening those who cross them. They must be fun at parties.

Nothing stays the same. That's a given.

However, school boundaries should stay the same unless there's a truly compelling reason to change them. They shouldn't be changed simply because there haven't been county-wide changes since the mid-80s. That's a factoid, not a reason. The dynamics in the county are very different than they were 40 years ago. First, you don't have the big decline in population in some areas accompanied by major growth in others that existed 40 years ago. Second, the schools themselves didn't vary as much in terms of programs (AP/IB, AAP, academies, electives) 40 years ago, so changes had a smaller impact on affected famiies than might be the case this time.

FCPS has done an incredibly poor job at explaining what is really driving this study. They claim it's about efficiency (i.e., lower transportation costs) but any such savings would be more than outweighed by the amount that they are wasting on Dunn Loring ES, a classic "boondoggle" and vanity project of Karl Frisch's. Overall, they have little credibility because their actions contradict their words time and time again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate how people on this thread keep saying “no one wants boundary changes” when there are posts supportive of a comprehensive review and explaining the reasons. More bullying and dismissiveness by the well-funded, self-interested, entitled opponents.

I am a teacher and I think this is absolutely needed. Not necessarily on an equity stand point but due to operational. There are many kids going to schools that are farther away when other schools are closer. That should be fixed. Some of the boundaries truly make no sense. The piece meal boundary solutions are a quick fix approach but then another school becomes over capacity. The whole system needs an overhaul. I hope also get rid of split feeders. It should be these 8 ES go to this middle school and this high school. I think AP should be offered at all high schools and more languages should be offered at base schools. AAP centers should go away and everyone shoukd be educated at their base schools. There should be specific SPED programming in all pyramids so those kids don’t need crazy long bus rides.

I think most parents on here not wanting this are at risk of moving to a less desirable school.

All so spot on. As a teacher, are they polling you all on this at all?

It's not all spot on. MS and HS other than maybe West Potomac would be incredibly overcrowded if they each had 8 ES feeders.

Also, from an operational standpoint, given where schools are located, not everyone can go to the closest school (some areas zoned to Oakton and Langley fall in that category), they need to have some split feeders (Holmes and Poe are two examples), and some of the attendance islands (such as those at Lake Braddock and McLean) really are not a big deal.

We did fine for decades without fetishizing things like split feeders and attendance islands. The fact that they are making such a BFD out of them now tells you that they'd decided that's their Trojan horse to effect some other changes, not because they really care about efficiency. If they really cared about efficiency they would not be wasting $85 million new ES in Dunn Loring for which there is absolutely no compelling need.

Trojan horse. Mic drop.

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The Trojan Horse in 2008 was that every high school needs to be no larger than 2000. That was the new policy that the SB claimed to justify a shifting that no one wanted--except the South Lakes PTA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate how people on this thread keep saying “no one wants boundary changes” when there are posts supportive of a comprehensive review and explaining the reasons. More bullying and dismissiveness by the well-funded, self-interested, entitled opponents.

I am a teacher and I think this is absolutely needed. Not necessarily on an equity stand point but due to operational. There are many kids going to schools that are farther away when other schools are closer. That should be fixed. Some of the boundaries truly make no sense. The piece meal boundary solutions are a quick fix approach but then another school becomes over capacity. The whole system needs an overhaul. I hope also get rid of split feeders. It should be these 8 ES go to this middle school and this high school. I think AP should be offered at all high schools and more languages should be offered at base schools. AAP centers should go away and everyone shoukd be educated at their base schools. There should be specific SPED programming in all pyramids so those kids don’t need crazy long bus rides.

I think most parents on here not wanting this are at risk of moving to a less desirable school.

Adding on.. I do think 6th, 8th, 11th and 12th should be grandfathered to whatever decisions.

How do you feel about residency checks for high school and middle school?

That, and eliminating IB should be the first step in this process

[Anonymous]

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Well-funded is FairFACTS matters who raised over 40 grand in a couple of months. They are less well funded because the GFCA realized how toxic they are.

Not a member of FairFacts. I've no idea who is running it. But, if you think 40 grand will compete with FCPS who spends millions and millions every day with no thought, 40 grand is miniscule. David vs Goliath.

1.$500K along on a "consultant" that is providing cover for the School board. And, I seriously doubt that the $$$ to Thru will stop at $500K--on a no bid contract.

2. Do you think all these meetings with communities are free? Custodians, staffing, etc? Do you think staff is not being paid for this?

3. A "lottery" with witnesses and video proving that something smells--and no serious response from FCPS.

4. Committee members who are known activists that will support the School Board. (Irony alert--one of the proponents of the SB and "equity warrior" does not want her own neighborhood moved. Talk about hypocrite.)

5. Using overcrowding as an excuse when the most overcrowded schools are functioning well. And, one of them will rapidly lose population over the next years.

6. No discussion on the School Board about eliminating IB which would limit pupil placement and likely bring "more affluent" students back to less affluent schools--and, incidentally bring great savings to FCPS--by eliminating need for high school redistricting and keeping the community happy.

7. Going through with this when so many citizens and families are worried about careers and future.

This is the last thing Fairfax County needs right now.

TWO of the the crowded high schools will rapidly start losing population in 2 years.

The Irving class that replaces class of 2026 is around 150 fewer students than the 720 ish class of 2026.

All subsequesnt classes are smallertgan the ones they replace.

In 2 years after class of 2025 and 2026 graduates, WSHS will be nearly 150-200 fewer students.

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Class of 2026 is the pinnacle of the post 9-11 baby boom.

ALL of Fcps gets smaller after 2026 graduates.

Class of 2027 is the last of the baby boom. After they graduate, the rest of the classes are significantly smaller as they are recession babies.

FCPS is foolish to rezone right now for a 2 year, temporary problem that will solve itself.

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Anonymous wrote:How are people finding out specifically what schools are up for grabs? Is if conjecture or is there info somewhere?

Conjecture. An educated guess based on the School Boards comments. I can fully see some of the border shifts that are being discussed, they fit with what the school board has laid out as their reasoning for redistricting.

But there is a lot of fear mongering with the hope that if the groups raise the alarm and FOIAing documents and pointing out how awful the school board is people will place pressure on the school board. This is coming from the same schools with the same posters. I would love to see an analysis of what percent of posters are responsible for the conversation in this topic. I suspect that a relativly small number of posters are responsible for the lions share of the posts.

Anyone who sees pros, to go along with the cons, is shouted down by the people who are violently opposed to any changes that moves their kids. There have been some good suggestions made in the topics, but they are hard to find.

I fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

FCPS is too big and really should be broken into smaller districts, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I think the opposition is fanning this flame - they keep bringing up Langley and Herndon all the time. It just creates a response. No where was that discussed in any meeting. But - there they are saying it will happen because of equity. The county, in their view, will pay extra, drive longer distances, just to bus people from GF Village all the way to HHS. Going after trans was the last election, CRT the one before, now it's equity driven boundary change.

From Forestville, 2 minutes longer to cooper than HMS. From Forestville, 9 minutes longer to Langley than HHS. Don’t take my word for it. Check on maps at relevant times of the day.

The narrative about transportation savings is a chimera.

That 9 minutes is significant if they are trying to save costs via bus. It’s not just traveling TO Langley, but also the time it takes to get to those neighborhoods potentially out of route.

DP. You know what's a lot more significant? The wasted almost empty buses that traverse the county to take AAP kids to centers - when they already have AAP in their base school. THAT'S not only grossly wasteful and redundant, but also the very definition of INequity. I certainly hope the SB gets rid of centers and their associated busing before moving a single child to a new school.

Agreed! AAP centers should be the first thing to cut when there is a budget shortfall. That includes the elementary school specialists who work with 3 kids a day and give a lesson once a month.

The AART at our ES was part time. She provided classes for all the kids, plus the LIII pull out, plus a LIV pull out because our school uses the cluster method. DS brought home projects in K-2 that were completed with the AART and enjoyed the LIII pull outs. She was busy, her time was not wasted.

DP. I’m sorry, but this Level 1-3 nonsense is BS. Pull out here, pull out there - it all adds up to a big waste of time. There simply needs to be an AAP grouping for all four core classes that ALL kids have an opportunity to do. Those who need to fall back a level could easily do so if there were flexible groupings. Whoever came up with the current convoluted system was an idiot.

That isn’t what happens with flexible groupings thought. The reality (as parent and a teacher) is that admin then tells you never to meet with the AAP kids because they don’t need it and to focus on the regular kids who need regular instruction and the “bubble’ kids who can pass assessments with lots of extra help.

The AAP kids get sidelined (which I suppose makes you happy) and never get to have small group time with the teacher.

In AAP, those kids aleast can move a little faster.

Baloney. As another teacher and a parent. They already have 2E kids in AAP. Do you think those kids move as fast as the other AAP?

+1
Not to mention, the SPED kids with all kinds of learning disabilities are grouped in the Gen Ed classes, making those kids unable to move as fast as they could otherwise. But somehow, I bet that's ok with the PP. As long as AAP kids get to be separate.

Do NOT dump your ignorance and nastiness on disabled kids. Disabled kids are not a monolith, and many compete with and exceed AAP kids.
Disgusting.

Look - you've posted several times about this. This has nothing to do with "disabled kids," and everything to do with the fact the people like YOU seem to think AAP kids should be insulated from any of the distractions that Gen Ed kids have to put up with on a daily basis. As long as your AAP kid gets to learn in peace, who cares what kind of experience Gen Ed kids have?

I bet you have no problem claiming, "some Gen Ed kids couldn't possibly keep up with AAP kids!" (there are very few who couldn't, btw). So just be honest and admit that many students with disabilities ALSO aren't able to keep up with the Gen Ed students. It works both ways, whether you find it "disgusting" to speak the truth or not.

Gen Ed kids deserve a learning environment where they are free from distractions too.

Sounds like you are seeking equity for the gen ed students.

If you want to put it in those terms, then sure! You bet I am. FCPS blathers about "equity" all the time yet sees fit to offer AAP kids free busing to go to "special" center schools where they can learn without distraction from those pesky Gen Ed kids who, you know, would only slow them down! Meanwhile, Gen Ed kids are expected to simply deal with the SPED kids who have been mainstreamed into their classes. And if parents complain that *those* kids are slowing down the class, they're called all kinds of names.

The hypocrisy here is so blatant - and truly disgusting, to use your term.

Different poster.

I am calling utter BS on your "special ed kids are overrunning the gen ed classrooms and ruining school for everyone else" mantra.

#1 AAP is full of special ed kids. Half the kids in the class are usually some sort of 2E, on the spectrum, ADHD on hyperspeed, difficult to work with, temperamental genius combination. One of mine was one of these kids and the AAP classes were overflowing with them.

#2 Special Ed kids mainstreamed into the gen ed classroom have dedicated aides with anywhere from a 1:1 to 1:3 ratio. They basically have their very own adult to sit with them and supervise them. They do not disrupt the class and if they struffle with the work, their aide is right there to help them do a modified lesson.

#3 The elementary schools in particular carefully craft the inclusion classes. They pick mainstream kids who are helpful and kids who make the special ed kids feel like they are a welcome part of the class. 2 of my kids have repeatedly been put into the inclusion classes over multiple years. They are great classes and the special ed kids are never the trouble makers and do not slow down the classes, because 1) they are nice kids and 2) they are very well supervised. If your kid was actually in one of these classes, you would know this to be true.

#4 All of the parents of mainstream kids in inclusion classes are either very nice and helpful, don't complain about anything, or are not really involved in the daily life at school. They don't pick kids with pain in the a$$ parents, even if their kids are great. If you had a kid in an inclusion classroom, you would also know this.

It is disgusting to see repeated posts denigrating the special ed kids, especially since the posts are clearly trying to use these kids to enact some sort of twisted revenge on the kids who qualified for AAP.

Wow you are totally wrong on all your points! My kid is in the inclusion class and the gen Ed kids actually can’t stand the special Ed kids. They even have a nickname for them: “Sped.” No one wants to be in their group and the kids feel they absolutely slow the class down with their disruptive and odd behaviors.

The aides coming in and out of the classroom constantly are annoying and disruptive too. Teachers are burned out from all the IEP meetings they must attend and all the different IEPs to follow. Often times these kids aren’t getting the extra help they qualify for. The case loads are just too big for the special Ed teachers. They are pulled in too many directions. The special Ed kids are left floundering in the class and can’t keep up in social studies or science. As a result, the class is dumbed down because the teacher cannot manage all the different levels on their own.

AAP classes are coveted classes at both center and local level IV schools. The kids on the whole are easier to teach and don’t require as much or if any differentiation. The kids can all read and write fairly well. They have some quirky kids and are a bit more talkative on the whole, but are far easier to manage and teach. Most of those kids in AAP are Asians and Indians - their parents place a huge emphasis on academics and don’t care about sports. They want homework! They will never make excuses about how Johnny couldn’t do his math homework because he had sports practice. They also are grateful to the teachers - their cultures respect teachers and they rarely question them. They are appreciative. Subs want to sub for the AAP classes - at some schools they will not sub for gen Ed classes.

IEP parents are super involved and can be a total nightmare. They bring advocates, threaten to sue…the teachers are under enormous stress with these kids. The gen Ed parents are pissed that their “regular” kids are not learning or being challenged bc of all the behavior issues and teaching to the lowest common denominator. They complain loudly and to anyone who will listen. Their kids are also way more active in sports. They don’t want too much homework. If there’s a conflict, sports win.

What an ignorant, vile post.

If you and your kid "can't stand" special ed kids, then tell the principal how you really feel so the principal knows now nasty you can get towards children and can put your kid in a class where they have fewer opportunities to bully and hurt weaker kids.

I am astonished by this post.

I really hope you are a troll.

[Anonymous]

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Well-funded is FairFACTS matters who raised over 40 grand in a couple of months. They are less well funded because the GFCA realized how toxic they are.

Not a member of FairFacts. I've no idea who is running it. But, if you think 40 grand will compete with FCPS who spends millions and millions every day with no thought, 40 grand is miniscule. David vs Goliath.

1.$500K along on a "consultant" that is providing cover for the School board. And, I seriously doubt that the $$$ to Thru will stop at $500K--on a no bid contract.

2. Do you think all these meetings with communities are free? Custodians, staffing, etc? Do you think staff is not being paid for this?

3. A "lottery" with witnesses and video proving that something smells--and no serious response from FCPS.

4. Committee members who are known activists that will support the School Board. (Irony alert--one of the proponents of the SB and "equity warrior" does not want her own neighborhood moved. Talk about hypocrite.)

5. Using overcrowding as an excuse when the most overcrowded schools are functioning well. And, one of them will rapidly lose population over the next years.

6. No discussion on the School Board about eliminating IB which would limit pupil placement and likely bring "more affluent" students back to less affluent schools--and, incidentally bring great savings to FCPS--by eliminating need for high school redistricting and keeping the community happy.

7. Going through with this when so many citizens and families are worried about careers and future.

This is the last thing Fairfax County needs right now.

TWO of the the crowded high schools will rapidly start losing population in 2 years.

The Irving class that replaces class of 2026 is around 150 fewer students than the 720 ish class of 2026.

All subsequesnt classes are smallertgan the ones they replace.

In 2 years after class of 2025 and 2026 graduates, WSHS will be nearly 150-200 fewer students.

You can't make a direct comparison of Irving enrollment to West Springfield enrollment when there are over 105 Irving kids at Lake Braddock.

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Well-funded is FairFACTS matters who raised over 40 grand in a couple of months. They are less well funded because the GFCA realized how toxic they are.

Not a member of FairFacts. I've no idea who is running it. But, if you think 40 grand will compete with FCPS who spends millions and millions every day with no thought, 40 grand is miniscule. David vs Goliath.

1.$500K along on a "consultant" that is providing cover for the School board. And, I seriously doubt that the $$$ to Thru will stop at $500K--on a no bid contract.

2. Do you think all these meetings with communities are free? Custodians, staffing, etc? Do you think staff is not being paid for this?

3. A "lottery" with witnesses and video proving that something smells--and no serious response from FCPS.

4. Committee members who are known activists that will support the School Board. (Irony alert--one of the proponents of the SB and "equity warrior" does not want her own neighborhood moved. Talk about hypocrite.)

5. Using overcrowding as an excuse when the most overcrowded schools are functioning well. And, one of them will rapidly lose population over the next years.

6. No discussion on the School Board about eliminating IB which would limit pupil placement and likely bring "more affluent" students back to less affluent schools--and, incidentally bring great savings to FCPS--by eliminating need for high school redistricting and keeping the community happy.

7. Going through with this when so many citizens and families are worried about careers and future.

This is the last thing Fairfax County needs right now.

TWO of the the crowded high schools will rapidly start losing population in 2 years.

The Irving class that replaces class of 2026 is around 150 fewer students than the 720 ish class of 2026.

All subsequesnt classes are smallertgan the ones they replace.

In 2 years after class of 2025 and 2026 graduates, WSHS will be nearly 150-200 fewer students.

They have Chantilly down around 300 kids over the next 5 years.

They have McLean down around 150 kids over the next 5 years.

They have West Springfield up around 200 kids over the next 5 years.

I always see WS posters saying the enrollment there is going to decline, but the Facilities people in FCPS don't seem to agree.

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Headed for a prolonged period of decreasing enrollment for a number of reasons. Combine that with an unnecessary desire to move to a 6-8 middle school paradigm and of course the desire to have students, instead of educational professionals, shore up poor performing schools. Sounds like a perfect plan, can’t see how anything can possibly go wrong.