Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

How does that work in your mind?

If someone bumps into you in the grocery store, do you feel you then have the right to beat them up in the store? And then you also have the right to get in your car and drive to their house, where you have the right to beat up everyone in their family and their neighbors, too? Bonus points for beating children and infants, and especially women seeking shelter in their neighborhood church?

But all of that is the responsibility of the person who bumped into you in the store? You have no responsibility?

dp. It is not easy to fight a terrorist group that hides behind women and children. There really is something deeply off about Hamas.

Radical settlers who steal Palestinian land hide behind their women and children too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the end of this—and there will be an end where Hamas loses (sorry, Israel haters)—people of good faith must overcome ancient hatreds and work for the good of humanity. No more settler violence. No more Jew hating taught in Palestinian schools. No more Netanyahu in charge; no more Jew hating Palestinian leaders in charge.

You literally cannot teach about Nakba in Israel and you’re faulting the Palestinians for teaching Jew hatred? What exactly did the Jews do to Palestinians to earn love?

documented Jew hatred being taught in Gaza schools. apparently not much considering all the terrorism against them over the decades. Hate is never the answer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

How does that work in your mind?

If someone bumps into you in the grocery store, do you feel you then have the right to beat them up in the store? And then you also have the right to get in your car and drive to their house, where you have the right to beat up everyone in their family and their neighbors, too? Bonus points for beating children and infants, and especially women seeking shelter in their neighborhood church?

But all of that is the responsibility of the person who bumped into you in the store? You have no responsibility?

dp. It is not easy to fight a terrorist group that hides behind women and children. There really is something deeply off about Hamas.

Radical settlers who steal Palestinian land hide behind their women and children too.

Nice try.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

Not when the US pays for the weapons and an Israeli soldier pulls the trigger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

Not when the US pays for the weapons and an Israeli soldier pulls the trigger.

What if an Israeli soldier uses an Israeli weapon?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

Not when the US pays for the weapons and an Israeli soldier pulls the trigger.

What if an Israeli soldier uses an Israeli weapon?

Their shells and bullets are provided by uncle sam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the end of this—and there will be an end where Hamas loses (sorry, Israel haters)—people of good faith must overcome ancient hatreds and work for the good of humanity. No more settler violence. No more Jew hating taught in Palestinian schools. No more Netanyahu in charge; no more Jew hating Palestinian leaders in charge.

You literally cannot teach about Nakba in Israel and you’re faulting the Palestinians for teaching Jew hatred? What exactly did the Jews do to Palestinians to earn love?

documented Jew hatred being taught in Gaza schools. apparently not much considering all the terrorism against them over the decades. Hate is never the answer.

Tell me what they teach about Nakba n Israeli schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keep also pretending that Palestinians are dumb. They aren’t dumb. They know that unfortunately war and self sacrifice is the only way to squeeze concessions out of Israel.


If you ask me , they exceeded their expectations and made Israel their hostage this time even in media

To course correct, the dumb Israeli government has to go and somebody sharp and formidable has to be in charge. Anybody else but Bibi

Well in that case they should stop complaining that they are getting exactly what they wanted. They wanted "self-sacrifice" for a lost cause? They got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

Not when the US pays for the weapons and an Israeli soldier pulls the trigger.

Ok, attack the U.S. in retaliation. Try it. You bring up U.S. supporting Israel at every mention we get it. Just do something about it then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

How does that work in your mind?

If someone bumps into you in the grocery store, do you feel you then have the right to beat them up in the store? And then you also have the right to get in your car and drive to their house, where you have the right to beat up everyone in their family and their neighbors, too? Bonus points for beating children and infants, and especially women seeking shelter in their neighborhood church?

But all of that is the responsibility of the person who bumped into you in the store? You have no responsibility?

We are not talking about two people accidentally bumping into one another in the supermarket.

We are talking about an organization whose sole goal is the complete genocide of the Jewish people and who hides behind the bodies of their civilians (who by-and-large also agree with this goal).

Ah, yes, collective guilt.

So unfair when applied to the Jewish community, but fine when it provides a convenient justification to murder thousands and thousands of Palestinian civilians?

Find something else to spend our tax dollars on, Biden Administration, or you will be a one-term administration.

DP. Either Biden will be reelected or Trump will win. Tell me again how having Trump as president is good for the Middle East.

Because Trump breeds chaos in govt that our adversaries can take advantage of. Palestine supporters do not care who is President of the U.S. or if the U.S. govt disintegrates, as long as Israel is overthrown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

How does that work in your mind?

If someone bumps into you in the grocery store, do you feel you then have the right to beat them up in the store? And then you also have the right to get in your car and drive to their house, where you have the right to beat up everyone in their family and their neighbors, too? Bonus points for beating children and infants, and especially women seeking shelter in their neighborhood church?

But all of that is the responsibility of the person who bumped into you in the store? You have no responsibility?

We are not talking about two people accidentally bumping into one another in the supermarket.

We are talking about an organization whose sole goal is the complete genocide of the Jewish people and who hides behind the bodies of their civilians (who by-and-large also agree with this goal).

Ah, yes, collective guilt.

So unfair when applied to the Jewish community, but fine when it provides a convenient justification to murder thousands and thousands of Palestinian civilians?

Find something else to spend our tax dollars on, Biden Administration, or you will be a one-term administration.

A strong Israel benefits the United States.
Hamas should not have started a war if they did not want Gazans to suffer.
If you are so co concerned about your tax dollars and are so in tune with your big feeling about Gaza you have a few choices:
-Return to the country of you or your parents' birth, you will no longer be earning an income in the U.S. so you won't be paying taxes
-Move to Gaza and join the fight there, you will no longer be earning an income in the U.S. so you won't be paying taxes
-Live in the U.S. and not work, you will no longer be earning an income in the U.S. so you won't be paying taxes--as you are unemployed, you will have a lot of time to share your feelings about Gaza and Israel because your feelings are so important

As for me, I will continue to work, pay taxes, and be thankful that govt officials use their wisdom to make decisions that benefits the entire country, not my whims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

How does that work in your mind?

If someone bumps into you in the grocery store, do you feel you then have the right to beat them up in the store? And then you also have the right to get in your car and drive to their house, where you have the right to beat up everyone in their family and their neighbors, too? Bonus points for beating children and infants, and especially women seeking shelter in their neighborhood church?

But all of that is the responsibility of the person who bumped into you in the store? You have no responsibility?

We are not talking about two people accidentally bumping into one another in the supermarket.

We are talking about an organization whose sole goal is the complete genocide of the Jewish people and who hides behind the bodies of their civilians (who by-and-large also agree with this goal).

Ah, yes, collective guilt.

So unfair when applied to the Jewish community, but fine when it provides a convenient justification to murder thousands and thousands of Palestinian civilians?

Find something else to spend our tax dollars on, Biden Administration, or you will be a one-term administration.

A strong Israel benefits the United States.
Hamas should not have started a war if they did not want Gazans to suffer.
If you are so co concerned about your tax dollars and are so in tune with your big feeling about Gaza you have a few choices:
-Return to the country of you or your parents' birth, you will no longer be earning an income in the U.S. so you won't be paying taxes
-Move to Gaza and join the fight there, you will no longer be earning an income in the U.S. so you won't be paying taxes
-Live in the U.S. and not work, you will no longer be earning an income in the U.S. so you won't be paying taxes--as you are unemployed, you will have a lot of time to share your feelings about Gaza and Israel because your feelings are so important

As for me, I will continue to work, pay taxes, and be thankful that govt officials use their wisdom to make decisions that benefits the entire country, not my whims.

How? Can you give even a single example? They don't support us militarily, they don't donate weapons to allies. All they do is leach off of the American tax payer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

How does that work in your mind?

If someone bumps into you in the grocery store, do you feel you then have the right to beat them up in the store? And then you also have the right to get in your car and drive to their house, where you have the right to beat up everyone in their family and their neighbors, too? Bonus points for beating children and infants, and especially women seeking shelter in their neighborhood church?

But all of that is the responsibility of the person who bumped into you in the store? You have no responsibility?

dp. It is not easy to fight a terrorist group that hides behind women and children. There really is something deeply off about Hamas.

The power imbalance requires them to either be cowardly bastards and have a chance, no matter how exceedingly small, of surviving the fight, or just running headfirst into a Lockheed Martin / General Dynamics / Applied Aeronautics avalanche.

I’d like to think most people wouldn’t choose the former, but let’s be serious. Most combatants will do whatever is necessary to extend the life meter …

What Hamas is doing is a War Crime.

Hamas is despicable. Nobody should be pro-Hamas, and if they are, I don’t consider their views relevant.

But there are international bodies that monitor conflicts (like the U.N.) and the most prolific violator of international law (and the law of armed conflict) continues to be Israel and it’s not really worth identifying second place on that list because it’s a vastly distant second place.

No, I don't think so. UN is extremely biased against Israel, not to mention obsessed with the country. Israel explains its targeting. When an opposing entity hides its militants behind womenand children and dresses in civilian clothes, that is a war crime.

You don’t think so. The U.N. thinks something diametrically opposite of what you ugh think.

Who should observers believe?

You? Biased toward Israel, incapable of finding fault in anything Israel does.

Or the U.N., THE international body that was formed to monitor global interests, which you thought was wonderful in 1947 .., but now, it’s extremely biased against Israel, and obsessed with Israel, too?

You’re incapable of seeing clearly when it comes to Israel. Your bias is the issue here, not the U.N.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

How does that work in your mind?

If someone bumps into you in the grocery store, do you feel you then have the right to beat them up in the store? And then you also have the right to get in your car and drive to their house, where you have the right to beat up everyone in their family and their neighbors, too? Bonus points for beating children and infants, and especially women seeking shelter in their neighborhood church?

But all of that is the responsibility of the person who bumped into you in the store? You have no responsibility?

Are you analogizing Hamas' massacre of Jews on October 7 to being bumped in a "grocery store"? If so, how odd.

Obviously, not - which is why the response in my analogy also didn’t involve killing.

But, sure, have it your way.

If Person A kills your neighbor / loved one / whomever, do you then have the right to kill Person A, their family, and their neighbors? Like, 18 people at least? 2/3 of whom didn’t even really know Person A, or at least didn’t associate with them.

And then you get to blame all that killing in response on Person A? Sounds a lot like bloodthirsty, frenzied revenge to me.

Civilized people are above that.

Tell me you know nothing about war without ....

I’ll condense this for you:

Israel is either gravely incompetent or pathologically dishonest regarding their execution of this war.

Your choice.

No thanks, that's your own dichotomy. Tell me you know nothing about war without ....

Cool. Well, tell us all about it, then, Zionist Sun Tzu. Looking forward to seeing your thoughtful exposition in defense of the IDF.

This should be great!

(I hope I’m not let down by your response, but judging by your previous contributions, I’m admittedly concerned.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There could be no civilian casualties in Gaza, and the same people would still be calling for a ceasefire. Destroying Israel is the goal.

Utter bullshit. I have yet to encounter a single person, online or in everyday life, who has any interest in bridling Israel’s response as it relates to Hamas. Not a single person.

The objections I’ve heard have only to do with innocent, non-combatant civilians being indiscriminately
killed, by U.S. weapons systems, no less.

DP. Really? I have encountered several people who think Israel should not have responded militarily.

If anyone argues inaction after the Hamas attacks, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. However, the collateral destruction in the response is what’s up for grabs in the debate.

The collateral damage is 100% on Hamas.

How does that work in your mind?

If someone bumps into you in the grocery store, do you feel you then have the right to beat them up in the store? And then you also have the right to get in your car and drive to their house, where you have the right to beat up everyone in their family and their neighbors, too? Bonus points for beating children and infants, and especially women seeking shelter in their neighborhood church?

But all of that is the responsibility of the person who bumped into you in the store? You have no responsibility?

We are not talking about two people accidentally bumping into one another in the supermarket.

We are talking about an organization whose sole goal is the complete genocide of the Jewish people and who hides behind the bodies of their civilians (who by-and-large also agree with this goal).

Ah, yes, collective guilt.

So unfair when applied to the Jewish community, but fine when it provides a convenient justification to murder thousands and thousands of Palestinian civilians?

Find something else to spend our tax dollars on, Biden Administration, or you will be a one-term administration.

A strong Israel benefits the United States.
Hamas should not have started a war if they did not want Gazans to suffer.
If you are so co concerned about your tax dollars and are so in tune with your big feeling about Gaza you have a few choices:
-Return to the country of you or your parents' birth, you will no longer be earning an income in the U.S. so you won't be paying taxes
-Move to Gaza and join the fight there, you will no longer be earning an income in the U.S. so you won't be paying taxes
-Live in the U.S. and not work, you will no longer be earning an income in the U.S. so you won't be paying taxes--as you are unemployed, you will have a lot of time to share your feelings about Gaza and Israel because your feelings are so important

As for me, I will continue to work, pay taxes, and be thankful that govt officials use their wisdom to make decisions that benefits the entire country, not my whims.

How thankful will you be if the U.S. turns on Israel like they’ve done in the past (e.g., Iran)? Still thankful and thrilled with the wisdom then?

If not, YOUR feelings are linked to Israel’s interests, not the U.S.’s interests, obviously.