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Anonymous
Technically because of biobanding MLSN can do whatever they want. ECNL (mostly girls parents) people just can't comprehend how Acadamies work and how wins and losses aren't as important as development. The ONLY thing that might pull MLSN into SY is HS Soccer. Players often want to play in HS. Also private schools offer scholorahips to MLSN players so they can beat other HS teams. |
Anonymous
| So one club director in the US confirmed MLSN as SY? Seems like should be more leakage amongst the other 1000 clubs. |
Anonymous
Just the typical ECNL parent group think. It's highly unlikely that MLSN switches to SY. They're already the top tier for boys, have tournaments with international teams, and have all the college recruiters attention. There's no real benefit for changing anything that theyre already doing. |
Anonymous
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Anonymous
No real benefit? The entire pipeline is changing. |
Anonymous
Pipeline to what? MLSN Acadamies already have all the top talent colleges want to recruit. |
Anonymous
| What girls ECNL parents dont understand is that for boys, colleges (that want to be competitive) recruit internationally. What this means is that they get players from Acadamies around the world and MLSN Acadamies in America. Unlike girls theres just a much wider/deeper pool of potential players. What all this translates to is SY while kind of nice for recruiters if theyre looking at HS players (big schools arent). It's not that big of a deal. This is why MLSN is under no pressure to switch to SY. |
Anonymous
All U8-U12 will be SY. That's your pipeline. This isn't difficult. |
Anonymous
And the players will line up to try out for BY MLSN teams at u12/u13. What is your point? |
Anonymous
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“Changing from two different age cutoffs at u13 also creates a bigger problem: it resets the RAE bias, which, in turn, would cause a fight or flight situation for many kids (and their parents) with some of the better kids being bumped down to second teams for more physically mature kids. From a Darwinian perspective this may sound enticing, however the risk is some of those top kids (and their parents) leave soccer for a different sport. By changing the RAE, you also lose all the inherent benefits of RAE to that point built up from u6 to u12, where the top kids (in part due to their relative physical maturity) received the better coaching and competition. The net effect is a potentially weaker and smaller pool of players from u13 on for these clubs.”
Above poster right on the money. Pipeline of your better athletes/players will shrink some. need to keep the more creative players who are often multi sport athletes and not give them another reason to leave soccer at this critical age. RAE is reality even at top worldwide clubs. That investment is gone if cutoffs are changed halfway through. Also where is the incentive for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team players parents trying to climb the ladder if they know they’ll switch the rules at 12 years old? |
Anonymous
You make it sound like clubs own players and they won't change clubs for better opportunities. This is not how it works. Players will either get recruited or will try out for the best teams regardless of BY or SY. The "pipeline" youre describing only works if teams stay together for multiple years which is highly unlikely. |
Anonymous
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“And the players will line up to try out for BY MLSN teams at u12/u13. What is your point?”
Seems strange to rely on that. Also more likely to get the less skilled players that weren’t retained by a SY club, and those who hadn’t received the lasting benefits from RAE (coaching and competition) from u6-u12. |
Anonymous
MLSN2 will switch to SY. It seems new clubs that are entering next year to MLSN2 are massively asking MLSNext switching to SY. Why? They can’t organize the clubs with two different age systems. (ALL younger than U13, plus older U13 non 1st teams will be SY) MLSN1 is undecided. |
Anonymous
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“You make it sound like clubs own players and they won't change clubs for better opportunities.
This is not how it works. Players will either get recruited or will try out for the best teams regardless of BY or SY. The "pipeline" youre describing only works if teams stay together for multiple years which is highly unlikely.” The lasting benefits of RAE happen on an individual basis. Also many kids/parents do not club hop like you may think. A good amount of the top players stay with their clubs year to year bc their parents and kids value convenience and community as supposed to chasing the illusive scholarship or pro contract. |