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and DC is 10 miles wide at its very widest point, and Virginia is a large state with millions of people, mountains, an oceanfront ....
You can't really compare these two geographic entities. |
| OP here. Actually you can. If you read the whole article you see that places like Upper NW are very segregated yet these Upper NW latte liberals love to act as if living in DC makes you so racially aware and superior to someone living in VA. |
| Compare the District of Columbia to the Fredericksburg, Va. city limits. Or Lynchburg, Va. Or Richmond, though Richmond is bigger. Any of those would be more valid comparisons. |
No you can't. It's apples and watermelons. The District of Columbia has one city in it; the state of Virginia has dozens of cities. Which city did you have in mind? How about the coal mining town of Wise, Va? Now to make the point you're trying sweetly to make about limo liberals, you could compare like with like. Geographically and population density-wise. Maybe DC and Silver Spring or DC : Arlington ? |
| DC is de facto apartheid, socioeconomic. Anyone who says otherwise is a denier. |
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The article says that the segregation index "estimates what percentage of people would have to move for races to be distributed in the same proportion which they're reporesented overall in a region".
It may simply be that not many black people live in Virginia, so not many people would need to move for equal distribution of races. I certainly didn't feel welcome there when I saw the confedrate flag hanging everywhere around Shenandoah park. |
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Interesting that the issue mentioned in your subject is all that you got out of that article. The basis of the quote is quite confusing. Can anyone make sense out of this:
"The District exhibited the most segregation overall under a measurement called the Index of Dissimilarity or, more commonly, the segregation index. It estimates what percentage of people would have to move for races to be distributed in the same proportion in which they're represented overall in a region, with zero being the ideal and anything more than 60 considered high." What the heck does this mean? Distributed in what way and over what geographic region? Regardless, it's really no surprise that DC is a segregated city. It doesn't require any fancy indexes to figure that out. |
Yes, used to live in Fburg and work in Richmond. Definitely segregated much more like DC. |
Oh this is most certainly true, with the exception of a few neighborhoods. But it's not accurate to say that the same isn't equally true anywhere in the entire Commonwealth of Virginia, like OP is trying to do. Or that misleadingly compiled stats from the American Community Survey, for that matter. |
I should add, though, that there is a question in my mind as to whether DC is more like a northern city these days than a southern city. Northern cities typically have had strict residential segregation over the years -- probably because much of the African-American population moved up from the south in the 1900s to work in factories and probably moved right into segregated urban areas. In the south, on the other hand, there has been this tradition of poor African-Americans living in and among whites in rural and urban areas because of servant jobs. Plus I have read about research showing that in more recent years some southern cities are less segregated because African-American families have migrated back to the south and are moving into whatever neighborhoods they want to. Still, I'm guessing that residential segregation within the city limits of Richmond isn't all that different from DC. But it's only a guess. |
| I'm just saying, drive around the Upper of the Upper NW neighborhoods and the only black and Hispanic people you'll see are the workers, check out the bus stop at Wisc and Porter as the Hispanic workers huddle and drive a short way down and all you see is $1mm homes. |
| 11:48 True but who doesn't know that? |
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The New York Times has a cool tool for viewing this data here:
http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/explorer My neighborhood is 43% white and 43% black. How many places in Virginia have a similar make-up? |
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Arlington VA 22204 45% white, 13% black, 28% hispanic, 11% asian and 2% other.
That is a nice tool, thanks for sharing. |