ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

England….goes SY….sorry, but your kid should play against kids in their grade.

Funny how you pick out one of the very few countries that use SY

The overwhelming majority of countries use BY. And don’t try to equate SY as BY in many of those countries because it’s bs and easily debunked. The majority Jan-Dec as age for this and every other sport.

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

England….goes SY….sorry, but your kid should play against kids in their grade.

Funny how you pick out one of the very few countries that use SY

The overwhelming majority of countries use BY. And don’t try to equate SY as BY in many of those countries because it’s bs and easily debunked. The majority Jan-Dec as age for this and every other sport.

All of Europe and the rest of the world does NOT do Birth Year Registration. There’s been a lot of narrative along the lines of “This puts us on track with the rest of the world.” or “This is how all of Europe does it.” That is not the case.

England and Wales do school year age grouping.

France does school year age grouping.*

Sweden does school year age grouping.*

Argentina does school year age grouping.

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

"Globally" implies all other countries use the same system. They don't. Some use birth year, and some use their country's school year.

It's one thing to have a debate. It's another thing to lie as part of your argument.

Unfortunately that’s all the BY crowd has left…lie. A good portion probably had kids born on those Q1/2 dates so they could live vicariously through their kids…

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Not only are the BY kids older than the Q4 kids, but they have had one full year more of school, which by itself is a huge advantage. They have a full year more of academic, social, and emotional development. Also many times they have had a year extra of soccer, since normal parents start their kids playing rec sports which are usually grade based, and then when they switch to competitive they lose a year of soccer, which at the young ages means one less year of 7v7 or 9v9. A
When you to talk to coaches, DOC's who have been doing this for years even decades they all understand this.

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

England….goes SY….sorry, but your kid should play against kids in their grade.

Funny how you pick out one of the very few countries that use SY

The overwhelming majority of countries use BY. And don’t try to equate SY as BY in many of those countries because it’s bs and easily debunked. The majority Jan-Dec as age for this and every other sport.

All of Europe and the rest of the world does NOT do Birth Year Registration. There’s been a lot of narrative along the lines of “This puts us on track with the rest of the world.” or “This is how all of Europe does it.” That is not the case.

England and Wales do school year age grouping.

France does school year age grouping.*

Sweden does school year age grouping.*

Argentina does school year age grouping.

That’s four of 211. Keep going and show me the others. Will never number the majority.

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

England….goes SY….sorry, but your kid should play against kids in their grade.

Funny how you pick out one of the very few countries that use SY

The overwhelming majority of countries use BY. And don’t try to equate SY as BY in many of those countries because it’s bs and easily debunked. The majority Jan-Dec as age for this and every other sport.

All of Europe and the rest of the world does NOT do Birth Year Registration. There’s been a lot of narrative along the lines of “This puts us on track with the rest of the world.” or “This is how all of Europe does it.” That is not the case.

England and Wales do school year age grouping.

France does school year age grouping.*

Sweden does school year age grouping.*

Argentina does school year age grouping.

That’s four of 211. Keep going and show me the others. Will never number the majority.

ok and why does it need to be the majority? The point is, there are different systems across the world and somehow they are still able to cater to National Team level talents just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

England….goes SY….sorry, but your kid should play against kids in their grade.

Funny how you pick out one of the very few countries that use SY

The overwhelming majority of countries use BY. And don’t try to equate SY as BY in many of those countries because it’s bs and easily debunked. The majority Jan-Dec as age for this and every other sport.

All of Europe and the rest of the world does NOT do Birth Year Registration. There’s been a lot of narrative along the lines of “This puts us on track with the rest of the world.” or “This is how all of Europe does it.” That is not the case.

England and Wales do school year age grouping.

France does school year age grouping.*

Sweden does school year age grouping.*

Argentina does school year age grouping.

That’s four of 211. Keep going and show me the others. Will never number the majority.

Absolutely. There's no reason for a majority of countries to use any particular registration system - because they don't have school sports as a general matter. Birth Year is just the easiest one.

USCS and USYS switched back to SY because they believe it will increase participation OVERALL. Basically, it's marketing.

But for anyone who loves BY - it's really not a problem if you can join an MLS Next team. We have it all in the USA!!!!!

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California Runs tryouts in December. By Xmas we will all be SY.

I'm going to ask my friend when his kid is going to stop playing down.... Cant wait for the responce.

LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

France and Sweeden do SY and BY! becauue almost all conutries in Europe outside of UK do school classes by BIRTH YEAR.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

England….goes SY….sorry, but your kid should play against kids in their grade.

Funny how you pick out one of the very few countries that use SY

The overwhelming majority of countries use BY. And don’t try to equate SY as BY in many of those countries because it’s bs and easily debunked. The majority Jan-Dec as age for this and every other sport.

All of Europe and the rest of the world does NOT do Birth Year Registration. There’s been a lot of narrative along the lines of “This puts us on track with the rest of the world.” or “This is how all of Europe does it.” That is not the case.

England and Wales do school year age grouping.

France does school year age grouping.*

Sweden does school year age grouping.*

Argentina does school year age grouping.

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

England….goes SY….sorry, but your kid should play against kids in their grade.

Funny how you pick out one of the very few countries that use SY

The overwhelming majority of countries use BY. And don’t try to equate SY as BY in many of those countries because it’s bs and easily debunked. The majority Jan-Dec as age for this and every other sport.

All of Europe and the rest of the world does NOT do Birth Year Registration. There’s been a lot of narrative along the lines of “This puts us on track with the rest of the world.” or “This is how all of Europe does it.” That is not the case.

England and Wales do school year age grouping.

France does school year age grouping.*

Sweden does school year age grouping.*

Argentina does school year age grouping.

France and Sweeden do SY and BY! Becasue almost all Europena countries ouside of the UK do their school year classes by BIRTH YEAR. Shocking.

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

England….goes SY….sorry, but your kid should play against kids in their grade.

Funny how you pick out one of the very few countries that use SY

The overwhelming majority of countries use BY. And don’t try to equate SY as BY in many of those countries because it’s bs and easily debunked. The majority Jan-Dec as age for this and every other sport.

All of Europe and the rest of the world does NOT do Birth Year Registration. There’s been a lot of narrative along the lines of “This puts us on track with the rest of the world.” or “This is how all of Europe does it.” That is not the case.

England and Wales do school year age grouping.

France does school year age grouping.*

Sweden does school year age grouping.*

Argentina does school year age grouping.

France and Sweeden do SY and BY! Becasue almost all Europena countries ouside of the UK do their school year classes by BIRTH YEAR. Shocking.

So does the United States. We're in good company!

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Anonymous wrote:Any idea what mlsnext’s main objection in moving to SY is? It’s going to be so difficult to stay BY when all of the u8-u12 ages are moving to SY. Obviously the English clubs with a 9/1 cutoff are able to compete internationally. SY also easier for college recruiting which is where the majority of boys playing mls academy or mlsnext will end up. Is it just that they don’t want to be told what to do?

If you go back a few hundred pages the BY crazies claim that MLSN will stay BY because we all know the best players are born earlier in the calendar year….and not because of anything else besides hard work and dedication!

SY parents should petition the Vatican, UN, IOC, and FIFA to do away with the Gregorian calendar.

You have to admit that a system with different age cutoffs is going to be an issue. I don’t care 1/1 or 9/1, but us soccer should have made a decision and done something consistent. Towns offering rec soccer can obviously do whatever they want (and they do go by GY in my town) but competitive soccer should be consistent.

Why? Who cares if there are two different leagues / systems - who don't play each other?

This is why leagues don't want to go back to SY. It doesn't matter what you do somone won't like how SY is implemented. This is because a single cutoff date doesn't work for everyone.

It's either have everyone equally complain about "trapped players" with BY or have some SY people complain and others not.

What will happen next is some leagues will allow accommodation for the small remaining number of trapped players to play down. Then the loophole will get exploited and SY people will complain about that. There's no way to win.

Wait until NCAA blows up and youth soccer becomes more about going pro and there's a big push to go back to BY again because they can't compete internationally with SY.

100% correct unfortunately the squeaky wheels just won't shutup about SY likely because they see it as some advantage for their kid. Newsflash if your needs to play down to be a superstar your kid isn't that good. If they're a superstar they'll be playing up and starting.

You can't reason with SY people because they don't understand or don't care about the reasons leagues switch to BY before.

Jan-May kids under BY model have been playing down…..guess that’s why the BY crowd is scared of the change

The current calendar used to determine ages globally wasn’t something BY parents came up with. Get a grip!

England….goes SY….sorry, but your kid should play against kids in their grade.

Funny how you pick out one of the very few countries that use SY

The overwhelming majority of countries use BY. And don’t try to equate SY as BY in many of those countries because it’s bs and easily debunked. The majority Jan-Dec as age for this and every other sport.

All of Europe and the rest of the world does NOT do Birth Year Registration. There’s been a lot of narrative along the lines of “This puts us on track with the rest of the world.” or “This is how all of Europe does it.” That is not the case.

England and Wales do school year age grouping.

France does school year age grouping.*

Sweden does school year age grouping.*

Argentina does school year age grouping.

France and Sweeden do SY and BY! Becasue almost all Europena countries ouside of the UK do their school year classes by BIRTH YEAR. Shocking.

Yup. Focusing on the aspects that actually matter, if you compile a list of countries with (1) misaligned youth soccer and school year cutoffs, and (2) where most club soccer players also play for a school team, you are left with one - USA.

[Anonymous]

Oh man, way to rehash stuff from 900 pages ago. We got two pages in the span of an hour. Good work people, 1000 is in sight!

[Anonymous]

The you just want your kid to keep playing down line to BY advocates is classic.

[Anonymous]

Its funny and true all at the same time.