ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just here waiting for a GA announcement so I can choose the best club for my Q42013. Granted, now I'm just here with my popcorn and to read how everyone thinks their own kid should be going pro!

The rumor is that Q4 parents wanting to club hop based on league rules is exactly why they are waiting until after tryouts to make announcements. If the leagues wait until this summer to change the rules (to perhaps allow Q4s to play down), then the clubs can dictate who to move between teams - not the parents.

Yup! wont know until late after ECNL tryout window is over.

If US Soccer agrees on a transit plan from a league, the plan must be kept away from the public until all 25/26 teams are formed. Thus, there will be no interleague poaching because of the transit plan.

There is no transition plan from US Soccer. The "transit plan" is essentially what you see now: announce a change a year in advance to let orgs and clubs plan their own needs.

This is kind of a waste, though, if they don’t give clubs tools to meaningfully make the transition.

It is clear that no new rules will be announced until after teams are formed for next season.

The best approach for Sep-Q4 players is to be in a club that gives you the chance to move up a level after SY is adopted.

What will happen for ECNL no idea about GA. All teams and clubs will have tryouts as usual ECNL will wait until they put out their policy rules for 25/26. But most likely there will be flexibility for players to go down but only to play in the new RL league not ECNL. So a Dec 2011 can play 2011 NL and 2012 RL.

Sounds like their will be limitations on how many games per player but will allow for coaches to start assessing player talent for 26/27.

But they are still working on the details…. Nothing set in stone yet.

Play in 2011 NL and play down in 2012 RL? This is weird. My Q4 NL can absolutely dominate the younger NL team.

Has anyone thought about the scenario where ECNL goes SY and GA goes BY. Then the ECNL team you are on goes GA or vice versa? Hopefully they align but curious if anyone else is concerned about that scenario playing out?

What scenarios are you referring too? It has been speculated that GA could stay BY but we haven’t heard anything yet. Rumors are it will be known sometime before June.

My kids GA team keeps asking grade over and over again and not birth year or month born just grade level. Maybe that is a tell?

My kids GA team hasn’t said or asked anything about grade.

My kids GA team hasn't asked either. Although it's pretty easy to tell when some are playing/played HS soccer and others arent/didn't.

Coaches and clubs don’t pay attention to those levels to memorize who’s in what grade.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just here waiting for a GA announcement so I can choose the best club for my Q42013. Granted, now I'm just here with my popcorn and to read how everyone thinks their own kid should be going pro!

The rumor is that Q4 parents wanting to club hop based on league rules is exactly why they are waiting until after tryouts to make announcements. If the leagues wait until this summer to change the rules (to perhaps allow Q4s to play down), then the clubs can dictate who to move between teams - not the parents.

Yup! wont know until late after ECNL tryout window is over.

If US Soccer agrees on a transit plan from a league, the plan must be kept away from the public until all 25/26 teams are formed. Thus, there will be no interleague poaching because of the transit plan.

There is no transition plan from US Soccer. The "transit plan" is essentially what you see now: announce a change a year in advance to let orgs and clubs plan their own needs.

This is kind of a waste, though, if they don’t give clubs tools to meaningfully make the transition.

It is clear that no new rules will be announced until after teams are formed for next season.

The best approach for Sep-Q4 players is to be in a club that gives you the chance to move up a level after SY is adopted.

What will happen for ECNL no idea about GA. All teams and clubs will have tryouts as usual ECNL will wait until they put out their policy rules for 25/26. But most likely there will be flexibility for players to go down but only to play in the new RL league not ECNL. So a Dec 2011 can play 2011 NL and 2012 RL.

Sounds like their will be limitations on how many games per player but will allow for coaches to start assessing player talent for 26/27.

But they are still working on the details…. Nothing set in stone yet.

Play in 2011 NL and play down in 2012 RL? This is weird. My Q4 NL can absolutely dominate the younger NL team.

Has anyone thought about the scenario where ECNL goes SY and GA goes BY. Then the ECNL team you are on goes GA or vice versa? Hopefully they align but curious if anyone else is concerned about that scenario playing out?

What scenarios are you referring too? It has been speculated that GA could stay BY but we haven’t heard anything yet. Rumors are it will be known sometime before June.

My kids GA team keeps asking grade over and over again and not birth year or month born just grade level. Maybe that is a tell?

My kids GA team hasn’t said or asked anything about grade.

My kids GA team hasn't asked either. Although it's pretty easy to tell when some are playing/played HS soccer and others arent/didn't.

Coaches and clubs don’t pay attention to those levels to memorize who’s in what grade.

Nice troll, but you'd be an idiot to not know what grade kids are in when the a drastic change is on the horizon.

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Anonymous wrote:My club is re-doing age groups early under U13, and my kid was just offered a first team spot for next year in her new age group after spending the last 2 on the second team.

YMMV

That was a good idea to go SY now instead of waiting. Rip the band aid off people.

I know parents who still dont think its going to happen. Thy wild ride & die all the way to the end. I know another that thinks its August 1.....

The early adaptors will be the best teams. The deniers will be in the wilderness.

No changes until 26/27 they can only run from it for so long.

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Anonymous wrote:My club is re-doing age groups early under U13, and my kid was just offered a first team spot for next year in her new age group after spending the last 2 on the second team.

YMMV

That was a good idea to go SY now instead of waiting. Rip the band aid off people.

I know parents who still dont think its going to happen. Thy wild ride & die all the way to the end. I know another that thinks its August 1.....

The early adaptors will be the best teams. The deniers will be in the wilderness.

No changes until 26/27 they can only run from it for so long.

Because there has been no news from ECNL, the coach is still building the team based on BY. If there is a "transit plan" which I already doubt, I am sure the club will adjust based on the actual facts.

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Rosters are extremely fluid at top clubs. It's more of the rich getting richer when they announce some half baked plan in June/July.

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Anonymous wrote:My club is re-doing age groups early under U13, and my kid was just offered a first team spot for next year in her new age group after spending the last 2 on the second team.

YMMV

Will the parents be okay with playing up a year for many of the kids? It is going to be tough to have the same results.

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Anonymous wrote:My club is re-doing age groups early under U13, and my kid was just offered a first team spot for next year in her new age group after spending the last 2 on the second team.

YMMV

Will the parents be okay with playing up a year for many of the kids? It is going to be tough to have the same results.

The "results" don't matter before u13. So the club can correctly tell the parents "it doesn't matter." And if the league rules permit Q4s to play down, it's all good. It'll be fine either way.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just here waiting for a GA announcement so I can choose the best club for my Q42013. Granted, now I'm just here with my popcorn and to read how everyone thinks their own kid should be going pro!

The rumor is that Q4 parents wanting to club hop based on league rules is exactly why they are waiting until after tryouts to make announcements. If the leagues wait until this summer to change the rules (to perhaps allow Q4s to play down), then the clubs can dictate who to move between teams - not the parents.

Yup! wont know until late after ECNL tryout window is over.

If US Soccer agrees on a transit plan from a league, the plan must be kept away from the public until all 25/26 teams are formed. Thus, there will be no interleague poaching because of the transit plan.

There is no transition plan from US Soccer. The "transit plan" is essentially what you see now: announce a change a year in advance to let orgs and clubs plan their own needs.

This is kind of a waste, though, if they don’t give clubs tools to meaningfully make the transition.

It is clear that no new rules will be announced until after teams are formed for next season.

The best approach for Sep-Q4 players is to be in a club that gives you the chance to move up a level after SY is adopted.

What will happen for ECNL no idea about GA. All teams and clubs will have tryouts as usual ECNL will wait until they put out their policy rules for 25/26. But most likely there will be flexibility for players to go down but only to play in the new RL league not ECNL. So a Dec 2011 can play 2011 NL and 2012 RL.

Sounds like their will be limitations on how many games per player but will allow for coaches to start assessing player talent for 26/27.

But they are still working on the details…. Nothing set in stone yet.

Play in 2011 NL and play down in 2012 RL? This is weird. My Q4 NL can absolutely dominate the younger NL team.

Has anyone thought about the scenario where ECNL goes SY and GA goes BY. Then the ECNL team you are on goes GA or vice versa? Hopefully they align but curious if anyone else is concerned about that scenario playing out?

What scenarios are you referring too? It has been speculated that GA could stay BY but we haven’t heard anything yet. Rumors are it will be known sometime before June.

My kids GA team keeps asking grade over and over again and not birth year or month born just grade level. Maybe that is a tell?

My kids GA team hasn’t said or asked anything about grade.

My kids GA team hasn't asked either. Although it's pretty easy to tell when some are playing/played HS soccer and others arent/didn't.

Coaches and clubs don’t pay attention to those levels to memorize who’s in what grade.

Nice troll, but you'd be an idiot to not know what grade kids are in when the a drastic change is on the horizon.

I think you’re giving these soccer people a lot of credit.

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My kids coach was like time to find a new team for my september kid. He didnt want to waste his our our time knowing the kid was gone in 6 months anyway. We switched clubs.

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Also the year down team was terrible and not an option. Needed to move to a better sitation. New club snatched up the player. Will invest in him knowing hes a great fit for younger team after change.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the year down team was terrible and not an option. Needed to move to a better sitation. New club snatched up the player. Will invest in him knowing hes a great fit for younger team after change.

What club was the kid at - and what club did he switch to? Sounds great.

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Not in VA.

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Anonymous wrote:My club is re-doing age groups early under U13, and my kid was just offered a first team spot for next year in her new age group after spending the last 2 on the second team.

YMMV

Will the parents be okay with playing up a year for many of the kids? It is going to be tough to have the same results.

The "results" don't matter before u13. So the club can correctly tell the parents "it doesn't matter." And if the league rules permit Q4s to play down, it's all good. It'll be fine either way.

Yes this, but girls were already playing up. So she was a fall 2014, playing U12 anyway, so next year she'll be on a fifth grade team of mixed 14s and 15s, playing U12 again.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just here waiting for a GA announcement so I can choose the best club for my Q42013. Granted, now I'm just here with my popcorn and to read how everyone thinks their own kid should be going pro!

The rumor is that Q4 parents wanting to club hop based on league rules is exactly why they are waiting until after tryouts to make announcements. If the leagues wait until this summer to change the rules (to perhaps allow Q4s to play down), then the clubs can dictate who to move between teams - not the parents.

Yup! wont know until late after ECNL tryout window is over.

If US Soccer agrees on a transit plan from a league, the plan must be kept away from the public until all 25/26 teams are formed. Thus, there will be no interleague poaching because of the transit plan.

There is no transition plan from US Soccer. The "transit plan" is essentially what you see now: announce a change a year in advance to let orgs and clubs plan their own needs.

This is kind of a waste, though, if they don’t give clubs tools to meaningfully make the transition.

It is clear that no new rules will be announced until after teams are formed for next season.

The best approach for Sep-Q4 players is to be in a club that gives you the chance to move up a level after SY is adopted.

What will happen for ECNL no idea about GA. All teams and clubs will have tryouts as usual ECNL will wait until they put out their policy rules for 25/26. But most likely there will be flexibility for players to go down but only to play in the new RL league not ECNL. So a Dec 2011 can play 2011 NL and 2012 RL.

Sounds like their will be limitations on how many games per player but will allow for coaches to start assessing player talent for 26/27.

But they are still working on the details…. Nothing set in stone yet.

Play in 2011 NL and play down in 2012 RL? This is weird. My Q4 NL can absolutely dominate the younger NL team.

Has anyone thought about the scenario where ECNL goes SY and GA goes BY. Then the ECNL team you are on goes GA or vice versa? Hopefully they align but curious if anyone else is concerned about that scenario playing out?

What scenarios are you referring too? It has been speculated that GA could stay BY but we haven’t heard anything yet. Rumors are it will be known sometime before June.

My kids GA team keeps asking grade over and over again and not birth year or month born just grade level. Maybe that is a tell?

My kids GA team hasn’t said or asked anything about grade.

My kids GA team hasn't asked either. Although it's pretty easy to tell when some are playing/played HS soccer and others arent/didn't.

Coaches and clubs don’t pay attention to those levels to memorize who’s in what grade.

Nice troll, but you'd be an idiot to not know what grade kids are in when the a drastic change is on the horizon.

I think you’re giving these soccer people a lot of credit.

The ECNL tryout is done. The coach is building the team based on players' level, not their birth month. RL parents are disappointed. We have to wait until next year.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids coach was like time to find a new team for my september kid. He didnt want to waste his our our time knowing the kid was gone in 6 months anyway. We switched clubs.

Unless there's more to the story, this sounds like a bad coach.