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I say no. I like the ideas described in this article. Note homework completion, study skills, etc -- and count them towards an "effort" or "life skills" grade -- but for a formal evaluation, give a grade based solely on knowledge and skills as demonstrated in class... on unit exams and quizzes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/weekinreview/28tyre.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all No More A’s for Good Behavior By PEG TYRE Published: November 27, 2010
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| If homework didn't count for a grade, then kids could have help on homework OR could decide not to do homework if they didn't feel like it or didn't need the extra practice to master the concept. |
| Homework leads to subject mastery. |
Which would be measured by end of unit subject tests! So grade the tests, not the homework. |
| If homework wasn't graded, most kids wouldn't do it. I know I wouldn't. |
Homework can be graded for "effort" or "study skills" grade and can even be made mandatory (detention, etc. if you don't do it) without having the homework count as a grade for "achievement/knowledge". I think that is what the school in the article is trying to do -- separate out homework completion and things like bringing in permission slips from the grade that reflects what a child actually knows. The grade on the report card would reflect this: Achievement Grade: A (The child has mastered all required math concepts, shows excellent comprehension and recall, applies math facts to new situation) Study Skills -- D (forgets to bring in permission slips, takes sloppy notes, turns in homework assignments infrequently) |
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| Taking a test in class is one component of grading and evaluation. Simple performance on a "test" in class is not the only component or method to evaluate mastery and expertise in a subject. Other components may include oral presentations, problem solving in and outside of class, longterm projects that may not be completed in a 50 min class setting but at home, written assignments requiring hypothesis setting, testing, data collection and analysis that may not be adequately completed in a classroom. Homework is more important than the multiple hours or sports "wannabe athletic superstar parents" subject their young children to on a daily and weekend basis. I have witnessed more tears and harm from chldren being dragged to hours upon hours of competitive sporting activities (by vicariously driven parents) than doing homework. |
1) oral presentation -- that's done in class so evaluate performance and mastery of concepts, and give it a grade. 2)problem solving in - class -- fine -- evaluate performance and give it a grade. 3)problem solving outside of class -- use this for practice only. provide feedback in class then evaluate in class for a grade. 4) long term projects that cannot be completed in class -- special case. Most elementary schools do not have many long term assignments. Those they do have should be carefully designed to minimize possible inappropriate help from parents. I.e. do not assess writing of long term project for correct spelling, grammar and punctuation grade. 5) homework -- assign and check and provide feedback, but gear homework towards helping children learn which skills and concept s they do and do not understand, and helping them master the material. |
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I would like to know what's so special and unique about the 4 walls of a classroom for learning, testing, grading and evaluation? This preference seems a rather rigid and archaic prerequisite for learning, testing, grading and evaluation. Are you presently aware of what's happening to newspapers, libraries and paper bound books with the arrival of the internet, computers and the iPad? Think of how your kids will learn and be assessed in 2050.
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| Yup, they may even take "school tests" at home with a computer. Ha. ha. |
learning -- can happen anywhere, and absolutely should happen everywhere, all the time. Even once formal schooling is completed! testing and evaluation -- if it happens on work done at school, properly monitored, of course, the teacher can be sure that the work reflects only the student's ability. If the work is done outside of school, and is submitted for formal evaluation (not just feedback), there is opportunity for outside help to influence the formal evaluation. |
Those that cheat will cheat in class and out of class. At some point childen need to learn concepts of ethics and morality. Most adept teachers, who know their student's capabilities and performance, can quickly figure out the students that receive alot of outside help. It's not rocket science...even for a country teacher. You're not giving teachers any credit for their abilities (if any) when you think the only way to assess a student is in a proctored classroom with teachers and cameras present and parents outside your locked doors! |
Not the only way. Just the fairest way. Homework should be for practice and to master concepts. Work done outside of the school should be assessed (checked) and feedback should be given so students can see where they need help. Parents shoudl feel FREE to help their kids with homework... work on it together and reteach concepts as needed. Tutors should use the homework assigned to go over with the kdis and help them improve. Then kids go back to school, and take the chapter or unit quiz, or do a classroom based assignment, for the formal evaluation. |
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You want to make sure a third grader is reading?
Assign a chapter of a book for homework. Then when the kid comes back to school the next day, give a test on what was in the chapter. Grade the TEST. Not the homework which was reading the book. It's the in-class test that demonstrates mastery of the content. The following is how my child is graded for reading homework: a reading log. Every night he's supposed to read 15 minutes, a book of his choosing. He's supposed to write down what he read (title, pages). He is supposed to do this for 20 days each month. If he fills out 18+ days on the sheet, his reading log gets the grade of A. If he fills out 16-17 dates on the sheet, his reading log gets the grade of B etc. Of course this grade is averaged out with other reading grades. But do you see how this system of grading work done at home doesn't demand mastery of the concept or skill in order to get the grade A? As long as the kid can fill out 20 lines on a piece of paper, he gets an A. Whether he understood what he was reading or not, whether he's reading K level books or 6th grade level books, he gets the A for making the effort. That's great, that's sweet -- but that A doesn't necessarily provide any information about the child's reading ability -- just his ability to fill out the paper. Give the kids an A for study skills, or "paper filling out" and save the REading A for tasks, observed by a teacher, that actually demonatrate comptence in reading. |