Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Jeff, for keeping the thread open. These are some very difficult topics. I hope we can all remain civil and learn something as we explore them.

[Anonymous]

Wow not a single post with substantive comment post reopening. Just the platforming of someone you all acknowledge is mostly heinous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Candace Owens stuff if gossip that has nothing to do with the legal merits of the case. Let’s move on to keep this thread open.

None of us here are talking about the wacky conspiracy theories she's spouting, we're really more discussing her in a meta way: specifically how she's been able to capture a large segment of gossip consumers thanks to the lack of honest coverage elsewhere. But if people are going to throw a tantrum in the feedback thread then, sure, this'll be my last post on her to prevent a childish meltdown.

New poster to this discussion and I’m a damned leftist but I agree with you about Owens’s handling of this. I’m not in danger of being radicalized by that kind of nonsense, and think it’s unfortunate that someone progressive can’t touch this story and let a little reality in because of the optics.

I also wonder how Megan Twohey regards her story now having viewed the Baldoni reply.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I desperately want to know what Megan Twohey is thinking now that she's probably read Justin Baldoni's full lawsuit. Unlike the people calling for her head, I do think she's a talented and skilled journalist, but she really did jump the gun with this one.

I think it's an odd coincidence that as Democratic institutions are crumbling and social justice backlash is rearing its ugly head, one of the originators of the #metoo movement is also facing backlash at such a pivotal moment.

Not sure what she was thinking when publishing that article without talking to any of the people whose texts she relied upon. I was trading a CNN article about yesterday’s hearing and they specifically had added a disclaimer that they had not investigated the authenticity of any of the texts or videos mentioned in the article.

I'm reminded of the UVA defamation story: the journalist Sabrina Erdely didn't want to question the subject so she just published the piece without truly verifying her claims, leading Rolling Stone to have to settle a defamation lawsuit. I wonder if there are any legal parallels between that case and this one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whoa!

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the right wing idiots have decided to take a position on what is basically celebrity gossip.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, it sounds like Jed Wallace is one of the defendant(s) who's going to be added to Lively's lawsuit:

https://deadline.com/2025/02/blake-lively-trial-strategy-justin-baldoni-1236278393/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoa!

I hate that she's such a grifter with hateful rhetoric, because this was super eloquent and accurate and I don't think any prominent figure on the left has been able to summarize the conflict this way.

Totally agree with Candace Owen’s take. This is about a power couple uniting to push out the “smaller” person.

Molly McPherson (PR guru) has this same take though is less strident in her phrasing.

[Anonymous]

Two questions:

1) If Lively's team never got ahold of Jennifer Abel's text messages, do you think they still would've file a lawsuit against Justin? One focusing on the sexual harassment?

2) If Megan Twohey verified the text messages, but deliberately left out the ones showing the full context, and left a paper trail where she, say, emailed her editor and said: "Yeah, these other texts give more context, but I trust Lively's account, so let's just mirror what she has in her complaint" would that reach the standard of malice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly think a good deal of the issue here was Blake’s own discomfort with her post partum body, which she projected onto others. She probably should not have agreed to be in a film so close to when she gave birth.

Yes. That’s why she spun out when the photos of her in character got criticized. She looked awful and it got her in her feelings.

All. Of. This. 100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoa!

I hate that she's such a grifter with hateful rhetoric, because this was super eloquent and accurate and I don't think any prominent figure on the left has been able to summarize the conflict this way.

Totally agree with Candace Owen’s take. This is about a power couple uniting to push out the “smaller” person.

Molly McPherson (PR guru) has this same take though is less strident in her phrasing.

I’ve posted her videos before and I agree. I think she very deftly identified Reynolds’s behaviors and made them square with how PR operates.

There are PR angles and prior bad acts informing how Lively and Reynolds are perceived (eg, he forced out a Deadpool director; she lied about who rewrote a scene). There’s a separate conversation I wish we could have about intersectionality and why Lively is viewed with a jaundiced eye in non-white spaces. These are interesting legitimate conversations beyond what’s been pled to date, and which cast significant doubt on the retaliation argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoa!

I hate that she's such a grifter with hateful rhetoric, because this was super eloquent and accurate and I don't think any prominent figure on the left has been able to summarize the conflict this way.

Totally agree with Candace Owen’s take. This is about a power couple uniting to push out the “smaller” person.

Molly McPherson (PR guru) has this same take though is less strident in her phrasing.

I’ve posted her videos before and I agree. I think she very deftly identified Reynolds’s behaviors and made them square with how PR operates.

There are PR angles and prior bad acts informing how Lively and Reynolds are perceived (eg, he forced out a Deadpool director; she lied about who rewrote a scene). There’s a separate conversation I wish we could have about intersectionality and why Lively is viewed with a jaundiced eye in non-white spaces. These are interesting legitimate conversations beyond what’s been pled to date, and which cast significant doubt on the retaliation argument.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly think a good deal of the issue here was Blake’s own discomfort with her post partum body, which she projected onto others. She probably should not have agreed to be in a film so close to when she gave birth.

Yes. That’s why she spun out when the photos of her in character got criticized. She looked awful and it got her in her feelings.

All. Of. This. 100%

+1
On the first day of the filming (5/15/23), paparazzi took photos of Blake Lively in character, wearing her hand-picked wardrobe. The images got criticized as unflattering. Blake said that the meeting on second day of the filming, 5/16/23 (Heath barging into her makeup trailer while topless per Blake’s complaint) was about Justin's unprofessional behavior. But according to Justin's Timeline the meeting was to discuss necessary wardrobe adjustments and his desire to have more control of wardrobe decisions going forward.

[Anonymous]

I'm rereading Justin's timeline of events and Melissa Nathan is very astute:

"August 14, 2024: Baldoni texts Nathan seeking clarity on what is happening, what the strategy
is, and how the ongoing "feud" can be resolved . Nathan explains that she spoke with Sloane and
asked her for her perspective on a solution. Nathan observes that when Baldoni "is respectful ,
they (Reynold s and Lively) don't like it," and when he plays by "their" rules, they still don't approve."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm rereading Justin's timeline of events and Melissa Nathan is very astute:

"August 14, 2024: Baldoni texts Nathan seeking clarity on what is happening, what the strategy
is, and how the ongoing "feud" can be resolved . Nathan explains that she spoke with Sloane and
asked her for her perspective on a solution. Nathan observes that when Baldoni "is respectful ,
they (Reynold s and Lively) don't like it," and when he plays by "their" rules, they still don't approve."

It is absolutely absurd Ryan was involved in this project, in any way. It’s insane. So incredibly unprofessional of both Blake and Ryan.

[Anonymous]

Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds have become box office poison à la Joan Crawford. History continues to repeat itself. They are aging actors, and were fortunate in that they were once young and kind of cute. Now, not so much and still utterly devoid of talent.