ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

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I was told late May or June they will announce what their age group plan is for 26/27. No age changes until then. Possibility of them expanding on their trapped player rules. wont get that until July i think?

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Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

I honestly can't imagine how they can stay BY. I mean I can imagine how the leagues can say "we're birth year" but this seems like a nightmare for clubs to manage. MLSN club near me has teams in MLSN and also a second league. All their U-littles who they call "pre MLS Next" though all play USYS leagues, as do the clubs older age groups 3rd and 4th teams. They also play in a lot of local tournaments hosted by various clubs, most of which are sanctioned by USYS or US Club Soccer, which will presumably also be SY events. Like I guess you could just organize all your teams by BY all the way down, and then just play against slightly older teams all the time, and just trap a bunch of players who are playing in leagues with no games during high school seasons, and ignore parent complaints, but that doesn't seem like something DOCs will want to do at all.

My prediction is GA and MLSN both try to say BY in 26, and maybe even 27, but eventually fold anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

Hard to join clubs/platforms without that knowledge

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Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

This nonsense won't help us to get 1000 pages. Let us dream...

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Anonymous wrote:I was told late May or June they will announce what their age group plan is for 26/27. No age changes until then. Possibility of them expanding on their trapped player rules. wont get that until July i think?

My kid is trapped this fall, would love to see a change to allow trapped players to play in their fall season.

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Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

I honestly can't imagine how they can stay BY. I mean I can imagine how the leagues can say "we're birth year" but this seems like a nightmare for clubs to manage. MLSN club near me has teams in MLSN and also a second league. All their U-littles who they call "pre MLS Next" though all play USYS leagues, as do the clubs older age groups 3rd and 4th teams. They also play in a lot of local tournaments hosted by various clubs, most of which are sanctioned by USYS or US Club Soccer, which will presumably also be SY events. Like I guess you could just organize all your teams by BY all the way down, and then just play against slightly older teams all the time, and just trap a bunch of players who are playing in leagues with no games during high school seasons, and ignore parent complaints, but that doesn't seem like something DOCs will want to do at all.

My prediction is GA and MLSN both try to say BY in 26, and maybe even 27, but eventually fold anyway.

Your entire prediction will be wrong. With maybe the exception of MLSN (which would have a ton of exceptions), they're all going SY.

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Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

I honestly can't imagine how they can stay BY. I mean I can imagine how the leagues can say "we're birth year" but this seems like a nightmare for clubs to manage. MLSN club near me has teams in MLSN and also a second league. All their U-littles who they call "pre MLS Next" though all play USYS leagues, as do the clubs older age groups 3rd and 4th teams. They also play in a lot of local tournaments hosted by various clubs, most of which are sanctioned by USYS or US Club Soccer, which will presumably also be SY events. Like I guess you could just organize all your teams by BY all the way down, and then just play against slightly older teams all the time, and just trap a bunch of players who are playing in leagues with no games during high school seasons, and ignore parent complaints, but that doesn't seem like something DOCs will want to do at all.

My prediction is GA and MLSN both try to say BY in 26, and maybe even 27, but eventually fold anyway.

Your entire prediction will be wrong. With maybe the exception of MLSN (which would have a ton of exceptions), they're all going SY.

I don't see how clubs can competently manage kids in the same age doing two different registration systems. C-D teams are SY and A-B teams are BY? Tryouts would be a chaotic mess

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Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

I honestly can't imagine how they can stay BY. I mean I can imagine how the leagues can say "we're birth year" but this seems like a nightmare for clubs to manage. MLSN club near me has teams in MLSN and also a second league. All their U-littles who they call "pre MLS Next" though all play USYS leagues, as do the clubs older age groups 3rd and 4th teams. They also play in a lot of local tournaments hosted by various clubs, most of which are sanctioned by USYS or US Club Soccer, which will presumably also be SY events. Like I guess you could just organize all your teams by BY all the way down, and then just play against slightly older teams all the time, and just trap a bunch of players who are playing in leagues with no games during high school seasons, and ignore parent complaints, but that doesn't seem like something DOCs will want to do at all.

My prediction is GA and MLSN both try to say BY in 26, and maybe even 27, but eventually fold anyway.

Your entire prediction will be wrong. With maybe the exception of MLSN (which would have a ton of exceptions), they're all going SY.

I don't see how clubs can competently manage kids in the same age doing two different registration systems. C-D teams are SY and A-B teams are BY? Tryouts would be a chaotic mess

Probably but A-B teams are SY and C-D teams are BY….just give it a thought and you’ll know why

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

I honestly can't imagine how they can stay BY. I mean I can imagine how the leagues can say "we're birth year" but this seems like a nightmare for clubs to manage. MLSN club near me has teams in MLSN and also a second league. All their U-littles who they call "pre MLS Next" though all play USYS leagues, as do the clubs older age groups 3rd and 4th teams. They also play in a lot of local tournaments hosted by various clubs, most of which are sanctioned by USYS or US Club Soccer, which will presumably also be SY events. Like I guess you could just organize all your teams by BY all the way down, and then just play against slightly older teams all the time, and just trap a bunch of players who are playing in leagues with no games during high school seasons, and ignore parent complaints, but that doesn't seem like something DOCs will want to do at all.

My prediction is GA and MLSN both try to say BY in 26, and maybe even 27, but eventually fold anyway.

Your entire prediction will be wrong. With maybe the exception of MLSN (which would have a ton of exceptions), they're all going SY.

I don't see how clubs can competently manage kids in the same age doing two different registration systems. C-D teams are SY and A-B teams are BY? Tryouts would be a chaotic mess

Probably but A-B teams are SY and C-D teams are BY….just give it a thought and you’ll know why

Are you just saying becuase C-D teams will tend to have the youngest players?

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Anonymous wrote:Focus on the “if any”

There will be. There are just too many edge cases to drag this out for another year. Clearly they didn't want to announce anything "early" because of various tryout schedules nationwide, but there absolutely be a few waivers set up for special cases.

The last time they did this, if there were any transition plans, no one followed them. The biggest clubs in the country literally did nothing until right before tryouts for the new age brackets. Why would this time be any different?

Just finished ECNL tryouts. No Q4 RL players were called up to join the NL tryout group. It looks like the NL coach doesn't care about birth months for the upcoming season. So I believe there will be no transit plan, and the club will do a hard switch next year.

As expected. Coaches have 90% of the team picked before tryouts. They aren't going to try and do some 'math' to figure out a birthday strategy. Next spring though when they roll up to tryouts and have, maybe 40% of a team picked, then things will get interesting and they will wish they had done a little prep.

This is what all of us rational people have been telling the crazy faction of our SY parent friends. RL Q4s are not going to be elevated to NL because of an age change. They have to do earn it through doing the work.

They're wrong that Q4 kids would somehow benefit this year (coaches only care about the next win). But absolutely they will in 26/27. I mean, who else is going to be on new teams?

Personal experience- I coached two 2nd teams last time this happened (07/08s) and (06/07s). All of the 08s and 07s on the 2nd teams became first team players after the switch to BY. They were also the best players on those new BY teams. So... I am expecting the same this time.

I think it DOES make sense at the u-little level (no ECNL teams at those age groups) -- which sounds like was your experience because what, those kids were 9, 10, then?

True. But it held the same (but a bit less so) at the older age groups. I can see at very large clubs, and at u15+, the Q4s (that are still around) have often been pushed to 3rd or 4th teams. And yeah, they’ll have a tough time getting out of that.

But, there will be roster chaos even at these very large clubs. Remember, they go into tryouts with 90% of the team picked (normally). That will be severely reduced next spring and roster decisions will be all over the place. With the exception of clubs who have done real planning (so like almost 0% will).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

Hard to join clubs/platforms without that knowledge

That's precisely why they haven't announced anything. It's a 2026 issue :shrug:

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Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

Hard to join clubs/platforms without that knowledge

Waiting until all/most tryouts are done and people have fully committed to a BY team is genius. At that stage, the clubs will have the ability to move the Q4s to SY teams if they want to. It won't allow the parents to club shop for the best Q4 opportunities.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its May- come on GA and MLSN, make your move and announcement. We are waiting

Give them some time. It's pretty clear if they didn't announce anything yet, they want to act after this current season is fully in the books.

Hard to join clubs/platforms without that knowledge

Waiting until all/most tryouts are done and people have fully committed to a BY team is genius. At that stage, the clubs will have the ability to move the Q4s to SY teams if they want to. It won't allow the parents to club shop for the best Q4 opportunities.

Or we just want a club with a SY platform to avoid a trap year and play with friends. We aren't about making a top team! So we aren't club shopping for that.