Big Beautiful Bill

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is gong to be devastating for the healthcare system. I can’t believe the GOP convinced the sheep that they are cutting Medicaid for illegals—who don’t even qualify for it. It’s going to devastate rural healthcare. Nursing homes will shut down. Hospitals will shut down. The ones that don’t will have to compensate somehow for the loss of revenue. Increased prices. But the MAGA cult will screech about the hysterical libs until it all
comes true. Then they will find a way to blame the Democrats. Bc frankly at this point I just think they are dumb as rocks.

Funnny it will affect small towns more than Big cities

We’ll then all the Libs should be rejoicing, you been calling them names forever. But, you just hate Trump that much, ok.

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Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?

The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.

The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html

It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?

- signed a former R now Independent

Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.

The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.

Social security is funded separately, BBB has no effect on SSI taxes that fund SSI. Stop trying to scare people, no one buys it.

You know that social security and income taxes get combined and spent together, right?

Not true. Social security taxes and trust fund bond interest fund current SS benefits. When SS taxes exceed benefits, the excess goes to the Treasury, but the Treasury issues a bond to the SSA trust fund for the amount of the excess. So nothing to do with federal income tax.

Until the OASI Trust Fund is exhausted and requires a general fund infusion to pay full benefits. That’s less than 10 years away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?

The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.

The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html

It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?

- signed a former R now Independent

Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.

The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.

Social security is funded separately, BBB has no effect on SSI taxes that fund SSI. Stop trying to scare people, no one buys it.

DP. Nope, not since Ronald Wilson Reagan’s administration decided to borrow from the SS fund and never put the money back. The funding is no longer separate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is gong to be devastating for the healthcare system. I can’t believe the GOP convinced the sheep that they are cutting Medicaid for illegals—who don’t even qualify for it. It’s going to devastate rural healthcare. Nursing homes will shut down. Hospitals will shut down. The ones that don’t will have to compensate somehow for the loss of revenue. Increased prices. But the MAGA cult will screech about the hysterical libs until it all
comes true. Then they will find a way to blame the Democrats. Bc frankly at this point I just think they are dumb as rocks.

This is why I’m surprised they really did it. All those hospital corporations, cancer treatment centers, dialysis centers, nursing homes etc still didn’t have the power to buy the R reps some courage? Don’t they hang out at Mar a Lago?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For people in their 40s/50s who think BBB is great... do you all not realize that we have paid a sh*^ ton into social security but we won't be getting our due now because of this bill?

The BBB doesn't really save that much in taxes for most of us; it does for the rich. But, what it does do is balloon the deficit and make social security insolvent even faster.

The Tax Policy Center, which provides nonpartisan analysis of tax and budget policy, projected the bill would result next year in a $150 tax break for the lowest quintile of Americans, a $1,750 tax cut for the middle quintile and a $10,950 tax cut for the top quintile. That's compared with what they would face if the 2017 tax cuts expired.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-gop-clears-key-hurdle-075405529.html

It this really worth ballooning our deficit and gutting social security for the future?

- signed a former R now Independent

Please explain the changes to Social Security. I am not aware of any.

The tax cuts of the rich mean that our government will go bankrupt much sooner than expected. So don't count on your Medicare or Social Security.

Social security is funded separately, BBB has no effect on SSI taxes that fund SSI. Stop trying to scare people, no one buys it.

You know that social security and income taxes get combined and spent together, right?

Not true. Social security taxes and trust fund bond interest fund current SS benefits. When SS taxes exceed benefits, the excess goes to the Treasury, but the Treasury issues a bond to the SSA trust fund for the amount of the excess. So nothing to do with federal income tax.

And how do you think that bond gets paid back?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so happy this past because until s*** starts happening to real people, they think all of it is made up and Democrats are just being hyperbolic..... I have family members who will be very much impacted by the things in this bill and I am 100% here for it

The Medicaid cuts do not go into effect until December 2026, a month after the elections.

Don’t understand the logic though.

Either the GOP knows it will lose the midterms and try to stick the democrats with the cuts but lose legislative power. Or the GOP holds Congress and loses bigly in 2028.

Well we know it wouldn’t be the latter. So they must mot be expecting to hold congress.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so happy this past because until s*** starts happening to real people, they think all of it is made up and Democrats are just being hyperbolic..... I have family members who will be very much impacted by the things in this bill and I am 100% here for it

The Medicaid cuts do not go into effect until December 2026, a month after the elections.

Don’t understand the logic though.

Either the GOP knows it will lose the midterms and try to stick the democrats with the cuts but lose legislative power. Or the GOP holds Congress and loses bigly in 2028.

Well we know it wouldn’t be the latter. So they must mot be expecting to hold congress.

They’re going to fix the midterms. Trump is already bragging about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just sit back and smile knowing we get 3 and 1/2 more years of this winning!

Buckle up, buttercups.

In curious, what are you excited about in this bill?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so happy this past because until s*** starts happening to real people, they think all of it is made up and Democrats are just being hyperbolic..... I have family members who will be very much impacted by the things in this bill and I am 100% here for it

The Medicaid cuts do not go into effect until December 2026, a month after the elections.

Don’t understand the logic though.

Either the GOP knows it will lose the midterms and try to stick the democrats with the cuts but lose legislative power. Or the GOP holds Congress and loses bigly in 2028.

Well we know it wouldn’t be the latter. So they must mot be expecting to hold congress.

They’re going to fix the midterms. Trump is already bragging about it.

Fixed or there won't be any more elections.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just sit back and smile knowing we get 3 and 1/2 more years of this winning!

Buckle up, buttercups.

In curious, what are you excited about in this bill?

I’m sore that they haven’t read it nor would they understand it if they did.

We really should take the “should be seen and not heard” thing more seriously when it comes to these folks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just sit back and smile knowing we get 3 and 1/2 more years of this winning!

Buckle up, buttercups.

In curious, what are you excited about in this bill?

I’m sore that they haven’t read it nor would they understand it if they did.

We really should take the “should be seen and not heard” thing more seriously when it comes to these folks.

It’s like the ACA: you’ll just have to pass it to find out what is in it. It looks like the Republicans are learning Democrat tricks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just sit back and smile knowing we get 3 and 1/2 more years of this winning!

Buckle up, buttercups.

In curious, what are you excited about in this bill?

I’m sore that they haven’t read it nor would they understand it if they did.

We really should take the “should be seen and not heard” thing more seriously when it comes to these folks.

It’s like the ACA: you’ll just have to pass it to find out what is in it. It looks like the Republicans are learning Democrat tricks.

The insurrection was not a Democrat trick.

That was a Republican failed coup.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just sit back and smile knowing we get 3 and 1/2 more years of this winning!

Buckle up, buttercups.

In curious, what are you excited about in this bill?

I’m sore that they haven’t read it nor would they understand it if they did.

We really should take the “should be seen and not heard” thing more seriously when it comes to these folks.

It’s like the ACA: you’ll just have to pass it to find out what is in it. It looks like the Republicans are learning Democrat tricks.

Wasn't the vote delayed for the reading of the bill in its entirety? And then the long speech by Jeffries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is gong to be devastating for the healthcare system. I can’t believe the GOP convinced the sheep that they are cutting Medicaid for illegals—who don’t even qualify for it. It’s going to devastate rural healthcare. Nursing homes will shut down. Hospitals will shut down. The ones that don’t will have to compensate somehow for the loss of revenue. Increased prices. But the MAGA cult will screech about the hysterical libs until it all
comes true. Then they will find a way to blame the Democrats. Bc frankly at this point I just think they are dumb as rocks.

Oh here we go again. Yes people will be dying in the streets.

And your word choice needs improvement PP. Of course illegals don’t “qualify” for Medicaid. That’s the whole point. But they have been receiving it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is gong to be devastating for the healthcare system. I can’t believe the GOP convinced the sheep that they are cutting Medicaid for illegals—who don’t even qualify for it. It’s going to devastate rural healthcare. Nursing homes will shut down. Hospitals will shut down. The ones that don’t will have to compensate somehow for the loss of revenue. Increased prices. But the MAGA cult will screech about the hysterical libs until it all
comes true. Then they will find a way to blame the Democrats. Bc frankly at this point I just think they are dumb as rocks.

Oh here we go again. Yes people will be dying in the streets.

And your word choice needs improvement PP. Of course illegals don’t “qualify” for Medicaid. That’s the whole point. But they have been receiving it.

They have not.