Does where you go to college actually matter?

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Anonymous wrote:I know underemployed Columbia, Princeton, and Vandy grads. It's no reflection on these schools. There will always be people who are unlucky no matter how prepared they are.

Underemployed Columbia or Princeton means HHI < $200,000.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

-Columbia grad who will never, ever have that HHI (partly because I'm single, but I don't make even half that in LCOL area)

There are lots of Columbia MFA people with $200,000 loans who make $30,000 a year. These are nut cases.

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Anonymous wrote:I know underemployed Columbia, Princeton, and Vandy grads. It's no reflection on these schools. There will always be people who are unlucky no matter how prepared they are.

Underemployed Columbia or Princeton means HHI < $200,000.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

-Columbia grad who will never, ever have that HHI (partly because I'm single, but I don't make even half that in LCOL area)

There are lots of Columbia MFA people with $200,000 loans who make $30,000 a year. These are nut cases.

I don’t care what anyone says, aside from law and medicine, going to a prestige undergrad could mean never having to go to grad school. Way harder to get into Columbia undergrad than Columbia master’s in...something.

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No way. Undergrad means squat these days unless computer science or engineering and plenty of state schools are great. It’s much more important to be an attractive person which leads to an easy life if you have an IQ over 100.

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The only people who care about the prestige of a college are other people who... went to a prestigious college.

It's funny how much dick waving is happening in this thread.

With the exception of your first job out of college, when you look for futures jobs, those who are hiring are looking for your experience. Where you went to college might have influence but most are more interested in what your most recent job was. Oh, and if it looks like you would fit in to the office. Personality goes a long way.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who care about the prestige of a college are other people who... went to a prestigious college.

It's funny how much dick waving is happening in this thread.

With the exception of your first job out of college, when you look for futures jobs, those who are hiring are looking for your experience. Where you went to college might have influence but most are more interested in what your most recent job was. Oh, and if it looks like you would fit in to the office. Personality goes a long way.

And people out of highly selective colleges and universities have been vetted already. This is why Wall Street firms might need all of 2 hrs after an interview to call back with a six-figure job offer - all the while not bothering to recruit from lesser colleges and universities.

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Anonymous wrote:Being privately educated is being privately educated. Regardless of income.

No it isn’t. There are crappy private universities and amazing public ones.

I'm going to guess you never tried both. I did.

Private elementary or high school is different than public school for a variety of reasons. It's not simply a comparison of rankings.

Private university education is different than public college for a variety of reasons. It's not simply a comparison of ratings.

I'm sorry you don't understand. Maybe you were not privately educated

??? I think you meant to respond to the other poster.

No.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who care about the prestige of a college are other people who... went to a prestigious college.

It's funny how much dick waving is happening in this thread.

With the exception of your first job out of college, when you look for futures jobs, those who are hiring are looking for your experience. Where you went to college might have influence but most are more interested in what your most recent job was. Oh, and if it looks like you would fit in to the office. Personality goes a long way.

It’s more like small peckers insisting size doesn’t matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Local commuter shithole might hamstring you — but a smart kid will be fine at whatever top 100 university or top 100 LAC they attend. I firmly believe that. I’ve seen it happen over and over. This T25 or bust striver crap on every forum is written by insecure lunatics. I know dozens of rich families with extremely smart kids who didn’t give a damn about Ivies or even the state flagship U. They went to places like non selective LACs, SMU, Pepperdine or even non flagship state schools. They are all successful young professionals. Cream rises to the top.

What about non rich kids, Buffy?

Go to the local public university and study engineering or computer science — or nursing, accounting, teaching. Poor kids generally don’t become investment bankers most poor families don’t comprehend or care about investment banking or dream of living in Manhattan.

Nurses, teachers and accountants aren’t setting the world on fire. They’re not developing life-saving drugs or becoming policymakers.

—a CPA

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Are you kidding me? CPA is the most boring job out there. And they are considered the bottom feeders of finance.

PP here. It’s not but that was kind of my point. Encouraging poor kids to be plumbers or nurses or accountants while encouraging your own kid to do something that’s actually influential to others is kind of dirty.

seriously? I'll give you accountants, but how is a teacher, nurse, or plumber NOT influential to others?

Not as influential as economists, professors, singers, actors, painters, or senators. Like I said I’m an accountant myself. I don’t like encouraging poor kids to go to trade school or major in pre-professional fields. No one tells rich kids to be plumbers.

Well, if you are encouraging your kids to be an actor, singer or painter, you are a dummy. Chance of hitting it big in these fields is 0.001 %.
Senator? Are you kidding me? You better stick to adding up numbers with your calculator

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Anonymous wrote:Local commuter shithole might hamstring you — but a smart kid will be fine at whatever top 100 university or top 100 LAC they attend. I firmly believe that. I’ve seen it happen over and over. This T25 or bust striver crap on every forum is written by insecure lunatics. I know dozens of rich families with extremely smart kids who didn’t give a damn about Ivies or even the state flagship U. They went to places like non selective LACs, SMU, Pepperdine or even non flagship state schools. They are all successful young professionals. Cream rises to the top.

What about non rich kids, Buffy?

Go to the local public university and study engineering or computer science — or nursing, accounting, teaching. Poor kids generally don’t become investment bankers most poor families don’t comprehend or care about investment banking or dream of living in Manhattan.

Nurses, teachers and accountants aren’t setting the world on fire. They’re not developing life-saving drugs or becoming policymakers.

—a CPA

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Are you kidding me? CPA is the most boring job out there. And they are considered the bottom feeders of finance.

more than a third of Fortune 500 CFOs are CPAs, but okay.

Not really. Maybe 1/5 and I’m being generous. Accountants are considered trade people. For any big company acquisition, they are the lowest on the totem pole. Now that is not something you can argue with.

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Most of the actors I know (including one who was on a sitcom that lasted a couple seasons) make most of their money other ways (my friend who was on TV mostly teaches).

[Anonymous]

Grew up relatively poor, went to public schools, state university, and private grad school. Work with many many Harvard, Georgetown etc alums, as well as many who went to elite private day and boarding schools before college. Hold my own with all of them/outperform many of them. However, if I'm being honest, I do have some insecurity about my academic credentials/upbringing, but that's my own issue. So no, I think it really doesn't affect outcomes where you went to school, but it could affect confidence and connections.

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Anonymous wrote:Grew up relatively poor, went to public schools, state university, and private grad school. Work with many many Harvard, Georgetown etc alums, as well as many who went to elite private day and boarding schools before college. Hold my own with all of them/outperform many of them. However, if I'm being honest, I do have some insecurity about my academic credentials/upbringing, but that's my own issue. So no, I think it really doesn't affect outcomes where you went to school, but it could affect confidence and connections.

Your conclusion (having little confidence in yourself but it mostly doesn't matter) is exactly backwards. If in your workplace there's many, many top-whatever grads and you, that suggests it does matter. It also suggests you should have much MORE confidence because you made it despite that all. You go. You're killing it.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a pop-science guy (name escapes me at the moment) who said there was some data showing that the ranking of the college you went to was less important for your prospects than being in the top half of whichever college you ended up choosing.

Malcom Gladwell

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Obviously prestige matters. Otherwise, top universities wouldn’t be employing racist means of admitting students into its ranks. Why go to all the trouble?

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the actors I know (including one who was on a sitcom that lasted a couple seasons) make most of their money other ways (my friend who was on TV mostly teaches).

The average SAG member makes $5,000 PER YEAR. It’s a lottery, winner-take-all profession (I know a young lady who is finally earning a living in LA solely from acting after several years of barely getting by).