If you were firmly in the schools should stay closed camp ...

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Anonymous wrote:Nah, privileged is saying it's better that more people should have died than I should be inconvenienced to help my kid with virtual school this year, but you do you.

False choice. The schools that were open this year have proven that they were not major spreaders and did not increase deaths.

Actually, no. A recent nonpartisan study noted that Texas opening schools early wound up increasing the area's cases by 12%, with 40,000 more covid cases happening as a result and 800 more deaths. So your statement above is simply false.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/10/texas-schools-coronavirus-increase-study/

Still not relevant here. We have a totally different type of population here, with different ideas on masking and other Covid mitigations. We had different rules for shopping, gyms and sports and dining.

The CDC did a study in Wisconsin from the fall and found it was very very safe.
https://www.wpr.org/cdc-finds-little-evidence-schools-increasing-community-covid-19-transmission

"Falk said it's hard to make blanket statements from the data she and the other researchers collected, in part because of those factors, and because of the characteristics of the schools themselves — they're rural and serve a mostly white student body. "

Ah yes. A perfect description of NOVA.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like APS forgot it's core mission: education. Instead it focused on feeding families and preventing community spread. When truthfully that slack would likely have been picked up by state government, local government and community groups if the schools had just done what they needed to do to educate students.

Listen to how privileged you sound. I am so over the whining of the upper class Open Up Now - APE crowd. So over it. If your complaint is virtual learning, you are very, very privileged. Others died or lost family members.

It's a pandemic. No one had normal. Get over it. Things are getting back to normal and we will get there. Have some patience, grace and empathy.

And for god's sake, stop blaming.

You do realize how privileged you sound, right? Having the means to educate and provide childcare for your children without relying on public schools is absolutely a privilege.

It's a false choice to say that closing schools is better than people dying. What about closing high risk activities like bars, restaurants and gyms and proving support for those displaced workers? That surely would have saved many more lives than closing schools. APS could have forced the community's hand by saying "education is a priority so we're going to open" and then forcing local government to react to lower community spread. Please stop being a lemming and consider what actual leadership would have looked like.

Completely agree. For whatever reason, county/school leadership just implicitly agreed that schools were the one institution that needed to stay closed. And if you disagreed, you were just a Trumper, part of some vile group, anti-science, whatever. And more, if you weren't able to re-arrange your life to accommodate this idiotic decisioning, you were a failure of a parent and you should be questioning your initial decision to have kids in the first place. It's just a batsh@t insane narrative being pushed here.

The reason is that they truly don't care about kids and education. The direction of education (going all the way to college) in this country is to push it more and more onto personal family responsiblity/choice/expense, and disdaining public support for education as a public good. I admit I never would have anticipated that society could just close schools for over a year seemingly without hesitation ... but there you go.

No. Schools were never supposed to do everything for you. Your child is your responsibility, first and foremost. School should not have to fix obesity, mental health, all of this other stuff that they have been charged with lately. Parents always had to support kids with their education at home, with organization, with social emotional skills, etc., etc.

I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like APS forgot it's core mission: education. Instead it focused on feeding families and preventing community spread. When truthfully that slack would likely have been picked up by state government, local government and community groups if the schools had just done what they needed to do to educate students.

Listen to how privileged you sound. I am so over the whining of the upper class Open Up Now - APE crowd. So over it. If your complaint is virtual learning, you are very, very privileged. Others died or lost family members.

It's a pandemic. No one had normal. Get over it. Things are getting back to normal and we will get there. Have some patience, grace and empathy.

And for god's sake, stop blaming.

You do realize how privileged you sound, right? Having the means to educate and provide childcare for your children without relying on public schools is absolutely a privilege.

It's a false choice to say that closing schools is better than people dying. What about closing high risk activities like bars, restaurants and gyms and proving support for those displaced workers? That surely would have saved many more lives than closing schools. APS could have forced the community's hand by saying "education is a priority so we're going to open" and then forcing local government to react to lower community spread. Please stop being a lemming and consider what actual leadership would have looked like.

Completely agree. For whatever reason, county/school leadership just implicitly agreed that schools were the one institution that needed to stay closed. And if you disagreed, you were just a Trumper, part of some vile group, anti-science, whatever. And more, if you weren't able to re-arrange your life to accommodate this idiotic decisioning, you were a failure of a parent and you should be questioning your initial decision to have kids in the first place. It's just a batsh@t insane narrative being pushed here.

The reason is that they truly don't care about kids and education. The direction of education (going all the way to college) in this country is to push it more and more onto personal family responsiblity/choice/expense, and disdaining public support for education as a public good. I admit I never would have anticipated that society could just close schools for over a year seemingly without hesitation ... but there you go.

No. Schools were never supposed to do everything for you. Your child is your responsibility, first and foremost. School should not have to fix obesity, mental health, all of this other stuff that they have been charged with lately. Parents always had to support kids with their education at home, with organization, with social emotional skills, etc., etc.

I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

And- would also like to add- I firmly believe closing the schools saved lives. You can’t trace asymptomatic spread. It was a global pandemic (still happening, really). Now, things are better are your life will go back to normal. Get over it.

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I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

Your kids were fine, and you know what the difference was. Sounds like you have the working foundation for a great research paper.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like APS forgot it's core mission: education. Instead it focused on feeding families and preventing community spread. When truthfully that slack would likely have been picked up by state government, local government and community groups if the schools had just done what they needed to do to educate students.

Listen to how privileged you sound. I am so over the whining of the upper class Open Up Now - APE crowd. So over it. If your complaint is virtual learning, you are very, very privileged. Others died or lost family members.

It's a pandemic. No one had normal. Get over it. Things are getting back to normal and we will get there. Have some patience, grace and empathy.

And for god's sake, stop blaming.

You do realize how privileged you sound, right? Having the means to educate and provide childcare for your children without relying on public schools is absolutely a privilege.

It's a false choice to say that closing schools is better than people dying. What about closing high risk activities like bars, restaurants and gyms and proving support for those displaced workers? That surely would have saved many more lives than closing schools. APS could have forced the community's hand by saying "education is a priority so we're going to open" and then forcing local government to react to lower community spread. Please stop being a lemming and consider what actual leadership would have looked like.

Completely agree. For whatever reason, county/school leadership just implicitly agreed that schools were the one institution that needed to stay closed. And if you disagreed, you were just a Trumper, part of some vile group, anti-science, whatever. And more, if you weren't able to re-arrange your life to accommodate this idiotic decisioning, you were a failure of a parent and you should be questioning your initial decision to have kids in the first place. It's just a batsh@t insane narrative being pushed here.

The reason is that they truly don't care about kids and education. The direction of education (going all the way to college) in this country is to push it more and more onto personal family responsiblity/choice/expense, and disdaining public support for education as a public good. I admit I never would have anticipated that society could just close schools for over a year seemingly without hesitation ... but there you go.

No. Schools were never supposed to do everything for you. Your child is your responsibility, first and foremost. School should not have to fix obesity, mental health, all of this other stuff that they have been charged with lately. Parents always had to support kids with their education at home, with organization, with social emotional skills, etc., etc.

I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

And- would also like to add- I firmly believe closing the schools saved lives. You can’t trace asymptomatic spread. It was a global pandemic (still happening, really). Now, things are better are your life will go back to normal. Get over it.

Here's a study that suggests closing schools cost lives. This could be a great place to post your rebuttal.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2772834?utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_term=111220

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I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

Your kids were fine, and you know what the difference was. Sounds like you have the working foundation for a great research paper.

No research paper needed. Parenting is a lot of work.

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I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

Your kids were fine, and you know what the difference was. Sounds like you have the working foundation for a great research paper.

No research paper needed. Parenting is a lot of work.

DP.. Let's hope you aren't a science teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:Nah, privileged is saying it's better that more people should have died than I should be inconvenienced to help my kid with virtual school this year, but you do you.

False choice. The schools that were open this year have proven that they were not major spreaders and did not increase deaths.

Actually, no. A recent nonpartisan study noted that Texas opening schools early wound up increasing the area's cases by 12%, with 40,000 more covid cases happening as a result and 800 more deaths. So your statement above is simply false.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/10/texas-schools-coronavirus-increase-study/

Still not relevant here. We have a totally different type of population here, with different ideas on masking and other Covid mitigations. We had different rules for shopping, gyms and sports and dining.

The CDC did a study in Wisconsin from the fall and found it was very very safe.
https://www.wpr.org/cdc-finds-little-evidence-schools-increasing-community-covid-19-transmission

"Falk said it's hard to make blanket statements from the data she and the other researchers collected, in part because of those factors, and because of the characteristics of the schools themselves — they're rural and serve a mostly white student body. "

Ah yes. A perfect description of NOVA.

Well it’s more comparable than your ridiculous link to TEXAS for God’s sake! Tons of privates were open in this area at full capacity. I didn’t hear of a bunch of people dropping dead - did you?

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I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

Your kids were fine, and you know what the difference was. Sounds like you have the working foundation for a great research paper.

No research paper needed. Parenting is a lot of work.

So is fulltime in-person teaching. Thankfully it's finally going to happen again this fall.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like APS forgot it's core mission: education. Instead it focused on feeding families and preventing community spread. When truthfully that slack would likely have been picked up by state government, local government and community groups if the schools had just done what they needed to do to educate students.

Listen to how privileged you sound. I am so over the whining of the upper class Open Up Now - APE crowd. So over it. If your complaint is virtual learning, you are very, very privileged. Others died or lost family members.

It's a pandemic. No one had normal. Get over it. Things are getting back to normal and we will get there. Have some patience, grace and empathy.

And for god's sake, stop blaming.

You do realize how privileged you sound, right? Having the means to educate and provide childcare for your children without relying on public schools is absolutely a privilege.

It's a false choice to say that closing schools is better than people dying. What about closing high risk activities like bars, restaurants and gyms and proving support for those displaced workers? That surely would have saved many more lives than closing schools. APS could have forced the community's hand by saying "education is a priority so we're going to open" and then forcing local government to react to lower community spread. Please stop being a lemming and consider what actual leadership would have looked like.

Completely agree. For whatever reason, county/school leadership just implicitly agreed that schools were the one institution that needed to stay closed. And if you disagreed, you were just a Trumper, part of some vile group, anti-science, whatever. And more, if you weren't able to re-arrange your life to accommodate this idiotic decisioning, you were a failure of a parent and you should be questioning your initial decision to have kids in the first place. It's just a batsh@t insane narrative being pushed here.

The reason is that they truly don't care about kids and education. The direction of education (going all the way to college) in this country is to push it more and more onto personal family responsiblity/choice/expense, and disdaining public support for education as a public good. I admit I never would have anticipated that society could just close schools for over a year seemingly without hesitation ... but there you go.

No. Schools were never supposed to do everything for you. Your child is your responsibility, first and foremost. School should not have to fix obesity, mental health, all of this other stuff that they have been charged with lately. Parents always had to support kids with their education at home, with organization, with social emotional skills, etc., etc.

I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

As a teacher who is a parent, I would posit that your children had an advantage that other children who do not have teachers as parents lack. We never once communicated our opinion or outrage about school closures to our first grader, nonetheless, he has struggled immensely. We hired a tutor for him last summer when it was more than obvious that we utterly lacked the skills and background to teach him how to read. Can't do it. Tried. Didn't work. I can give you an in depth tutorial and education on immigration law and policy, but, cannot teach a first grader to read. My partner and I also work full time, this means that for every meeting we have (our schedules are controlled by our leadership) we cannot be pulled away to supervise and make sure our first grader is staying on task. This has been a nightmare year for us and for him. No way around it. If there had been private spots, we would have moved him--there are none. Parents have been put in an impossible position of trying to simultaneously fulfill their work obligations and responsibilities (for federal employees in particular with an administration change, there has been no slowing of pace) and have not had the luxury of an extra day to plan or supervise virtual learning. This has year has sucked all around for everyone, but, check your self awareness if you don't immediately realize that having an in home expert was probably of tremendous value to your children, among many other things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like APS forgot it's core mission: education. Instead it focused on feeding families and preventing community spread. When truthfully that slack would likely have been picked up by state government, local government and community groups if the schools had just done what they needed to do to educate students.

Listen to how privileged you sound. I am so over the whining of the upper class Open Up Now - APE crowd. So over it. If your complaint is virtual learning, you are very, very privileged. Others died or lost family members.

It's a pandemic. No one had normal. Get over it. Things are getting back to normal and we will get there. Have some patience, grace and empathy.

And for god's sake, stop blaming.

You do realize how privileged you sound, right? Having the means to educate and provide childcare for your children without relying on public schools is absolutely a privilege.

It's a false choice to say that closing schools is better than people dying. What about closing high risk activities like bars, restaurants and gyms and proving support for those displaced workers? That surely would have saved many more lives than closing schools. APS could have forced the community's hand by saying "education is a priority so we're going to open" and then forcing local government to react to lower community spread. Please stop being a lemming and consider what actual leadership would have looked like.

Completely agree. For whatever reason, county/school leadership just implicitly agreed that schools were the one institution that needed to stay closed. And if you disagreed, you were just a Trumper, part of some vile group, anti-science, whatever. And more, if you weren't able to re-arrange your life to accommodate this idiotic decisioning, you were a failure of a parent and you should be questioning your initial decision to have kids in the first place. It's just a batsh@t insane narrative being pushed here.

The reason is that they truly don't care about kids and education. The direction of education (going all the way to college) in this country is to push it more and more onto personal family responsiblity/choice/expense, and disdaining public support for education as a public good. I admit I never would have anticipated that society could just close schools for over a year seemingly without hesitation ... but there you go.

No. Schools were never supposed to do everything for you. Your child is your responsibility, first and foremost. School should not have to fix obesity, mental health, all of this other stuff that they have been charged with lately. Parents always had to support kids with their education at home, with organization, with social emotional skills, etc., etc.

I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

As a teacher who is a parent, I would posit that your children had an advantage that other children who do not have teachers as parents lack. We never once communicated our opinion or outrage about school closures to our first grader, nonetheless, he has struggled immensely. We hired a tutor for him last summer when it was more than obvious that we utterly lacked the skills and background to teach him how to read. Can't do it. Tried. Didn't work. I can give you an in depth tutorial and education on immigration law and policy, but, cannot teach a first grader to read. My partner and I also work full time, this means that for every meeting we have (our schedules are controlled by our leadership) we cannot be pulled away to supervise and make sure our first grader is staying on task. This has been a nightmare year for us and for him. No way around it. If there had been private spots, we would have moved him--there are none. Parents have been put in an impossible position of trying to simultaneously fulfill their work obligations and responsibilities (for federal employees in particular with an administration change, there has been no slowing of pace) and have not had the luxury of an extra day to plan or supervise virtual learning. This has year has sucked all around for everyone, but, check your self awareness if you don't immediately realize that having an in home expert was probably of tremendous value to your children, among many other things.

Good thing this dumpster fire of a year is over, and we will move to five days a week next school year.

I find it unhealthy that people are still obsessing over this past year. It was horrible but we can't change it now.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like APS forgot it's core mission: education. Instead it focused on feeding families and preventing community spread. When truthfully that slack would likely have been picked up by state government, local government and community groups if the schools had just done what they needed to do to educate students.

Listen to how privileged you sound. I am so over the whining of the upper class Open Up Now - APE crowd. So over it. If your complaint is virtual learning, you are very, very privileged. Others died or lost family members.

It's a pandemic. No one had normal. Get over it. Things are getting back to normal and we will get there. Have some patience, grace and empathy.

And for god's sake, stop blaming.

You do realize how privileged you sound, right? Having the means to educate and provide childcare for your children without relying on public schools is absolutely a privilege.

It's a false choice to say that closing schools is better than people dying. What about closing high risk activities like bars, restaurants and gyms and proving support for those displaced workers? That surely would have saved many more lives than closing schools. APS could have forced the community's hand by saying "education is a priority so we're going to open" and then forcing local government to react to lower community spread. Please stop being a lemming and consider what actual leadership would have looked like.

Completely agree. For whatever reason, county/school leadership just implicitly agreed that schools were the one institution that needed to stay closed. And if you disagreed, you were just a Trumper, part of some vile group, anti-science, whatever. And more, if you weren't able to re-arrange your life to accommodate this idiotic decisioning, you were a failure of a parent and you should be questioning your initial decision to have kids in the first place. It's just a batsh@t insane narrative being pushed here.

The reason is that they truly don't care about kids and education. The direction of education (going all the way to college) in this country is to push it more and more onto personal family responsiblity/choice/expense, and disdaining public support for education as a public good. I admit I never would have anticipated that society could just close schools for over a year seemingly without hesitation ... but there you go.

No. Schools were never supposed to do everything for you. Your child is your responsibility, first and foremost. School should not have to fix obesity, mental health, all of this other stuff that they have been charged with lately. Parents always had to support kids with their education at home, with organization, with social emotional skills, etc., etc.

I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

My kid wasn't "available" for learning because he was NOT IN SCHOOL. Are you really that dense? This isn't parents' faults.

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Nothing enrages me more during the pandemic than some smug-a$$ parent trying to claim that since THEIR kids were fine, that anyone who has kids who weren't fine must have bad or lazy parents.

GTFOOH with that garbage.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing enrages me more during the pandemic than some smug-a$$ parent trying to claim that since THEIR kids were fine, that anyone who has kids who weren't fine must have bad or lazy parents.

GTFOOH with that garbage.

Especially since they were "fine" because the parents were able to access a ton of support, in the form of pods, nannies, or their own work flexibilities. Even just being in a neighborhood where kids could play outside together is a huge deal that a lot of families didn't have.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like APS forgot it's core mission: education. Instead it focused on feeding families and preventing community spread. When truthfully that slack would likely have been picked up by state government, local government and community groups if the schools had just done what they needed to do to educate students.

Listen to how privileged you sound. I am so over the whining of the upper class Open Up Now - APE crowd. So over it. If your complaint is virtual learning, you are very, very privileged. Others died or lost family members.

It's a pandemic. No one had normal. Get over it. Things are getting back to normal and we will get there. Have some patience, grace and empathy.

And for god's sake, stop blaming.

You do realize how privileged you sound, right? Having the means to educate and provide childcare for your children without relying on public schools is absolutely a privilege.

It's a false choice to say that closing schools is better than people dying. What about closing high risk activities like bars, restaurants and gyms and proving support for those displaced workers? That surely would have saved many more lives than closing schools. APS could have forced the community's hand by saying "education is a priority so we're going to open" and then forcing local government to react to lower community spread. Please stop being a lemming and consider what actual leadership would have looked like.

Completely agree. For whatever reason, county/school leadership just implicitly agreed that schools were the one institution that needed to stay closed. And if you disagreed, you were just a Trumper, part of some vile group, anti-science, whatever. And more, if you weren't able to re-arrange your life to accommodate this idiotic decisioning, you were a failure of a parent and you should be questioning your initial decision to have kids in the first place. It's just a batsh@t insane narrative being pushed here.

The reason is that they truly don't care about kids and education. The direction of education (going all the way to college) in this country is to push it more and more onto personal family responsiblity/choice/expense, and disdaining public support for education as a public good. I admit I never would have anticipated that society could just close schools for over a year seemingly without hesitation ... but there you go.

No. Schools were never supposed to do everything for you. Your child is your responsibility, first and foremost. School should not have to fix obesity, mental health, all of this other stuff that they have been charged with lately. Parents always had to support kids with their education at home, with organization, with social emotional skills, etc., etc.

I am a teacher. I am so pissed off, frankly, that so many of my students were not available for learning this year because of the attitudes of their parents. If someone is telling you this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to you and you can’t learn that way, what do you think is going to happen? It was the pygmalion effect in full swing.

I’m also a parent. My kids were fine during this time, and they learned. I’m sorry to tell you, but I think I know what the difference was here.

DP, and one of the really awful takeaways of this pandemic has been how many teachers think like you. I understand that you're extremely stressed out, so want to give you some benefit of the doubt that stress is impacting your ability to think clearly and to be empathic.

If you think that it's the "attitudes" of your students' parents that precluded the kids being online at the scheduled time, you are woefully out of touch with reality. That, coupled with your staggering condescension, disqualify you from teaching, IMO.

(And as for the "closing schools saved lives" BS you like to tell yourself, evidence suggests otherwise. Millions of kids are now on a completely different life trajectory thanks to prolonged school closures, most of them not for the better. And before you start bleating, "kids are resilieeeeeennnnnt," take the time to learn what resilience actually means in this context, and what affords it, please.)